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Opinions/Editorials Title: What was Hitler’s Unforgivable Sin?
Behind the Holocaust
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Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest What was Hitler’s Unforgivable Sin? Listening to the eugenicists in the American Progressive movement. Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon Johnson were president? -- Jackie Kennedy #2. To: Brian S (#0) Intelligent design ... natural selection ---
survival of the fittest !
Isn't math - science being tought in the schools anymore ! Looks like it's all pot smoking now ! If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys ! #3. To: jwpegler (#1) THAT'S gonna' leave a mark!!! LOL. I'm guess Baghdad Brian won't have the stones to attempt to refute this fact, which you precisely stated... To:Skippy, toe-jam, old man Fred Alzheimers Mertz, _jim, loonymom/ming, e-type-jackoff, goober56, Wrek, calcon, dummy DwarF, continental op, Biff, gobsheit and meguro From: Capitalist Eric Message: You're SOCIALIST morons. ESAD. #4. To: jwpegler (#1) Listening to the eugenicists in the American Progressive movement. You believe that American eugencists are responsible for the Holocaust? You really are a work not in progress. America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #5. To: war (#4) At a March 1925 international birth control gathering in New York City, a speaker warned of the menace posed by the "black" and "yellow" peril. The man was not a Nazi or Klansman; he was Dr. S. Adolphus Knopf, a member of Margaret Sanger's American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood. __________________________________________________________________________________________
#6. To: jwpegler (#1) Listening to the eugenicists in the American Progressive movement. Worth noting Theodore Roosevelt was among this class. He compared human breeding to cattle breeding, in his own handwritting. Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao #7. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#5) There's a difference between eugenics and just being responisble. White middle class women would douche with Lysol after intercourse to avoid pregnancy... America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #8. To: Badeye, capitalist eric (#6) Worth noting Theodore Roosevelt was among this class. He compared human breeding to cattle breeding, in his own handwritting. So was Roosevelt's Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes who in Buck vs. Bell upheld forces sterilizations, writing: “It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind... Like all leftists, American "Progressives" are a dangerous, anti-freedom group. They can never be trusted. Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon Johnson were president? -- Jackie Kennedy #9. To: jwpegler (#8) Yep. Tells you just how educated McCain is btw (eyes rollin) Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao #10. To: war, Get Outta Dodge! (#7) There's a difference between eugenics and just being responisble. White middle class women would douche with Lysol after intercourse to avoid pregnancy... Rule of Disinformation #15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place. Rule of Disinformation #17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can “argue” with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues. Rule of Disinformation #18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how “sensitive they are to criticism”. To:Skippy, toe-jam, old man Fred Alzheimers Mertz, _jim, loonymom/ming, e-type-jackoff, goober56, Wrek, calcon, dummy DwarF, continental op, Biff, gobsheit and meguro From: Capitalist Eric Message: You're SOCIALIST morons. ESAD. #11. To: Capitalist Eric (#10) (Edited) Clueless twit. The disinformation is in trying to tie Sanger into eugneics rather than simple birth control. She believed in "dysgenics" not "eugenics". This included restricting immigration. She was also not an advocate for abortion. In fact, she was opposed to it in almost all circumstances. America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #12. To: war (#11) The disinformation is in trying to tie Sanger into eugneics rather than simple birth control. She believed in "dysgenics" not "eugenics". This included restricting immigration. She was also not an advocate for abortion. In fact, she was opposed to it in almost all circumstances.
Feldt herself recognizes Sanger’s involvement with eugenics as “the most difficult stain” to remove from Sanger’s legacy __________________________________________________________________________________________
#13. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#12) Apparently Sanger's own speeches, and personal letters aren't concrete evidence with some? You can't make this kind of ignorance up. Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao #14. To: Badeye, war (#13) Apparently Sanger's own speeches, and personal letters aren't concrete evidence with some? I deliberately chose that particular website - feministsforchoice.com - so the source couldn't be impugned as "right wing." Sanger is a person who the present-day Left would just as soon expunge from the history books. __________________________________________________________________________________________
#15. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#12) (Edited) Eugenics was a form of Social Darwinism. Sanger believed that ALL women should practice contraception. To her, the issue was population GROWTH across ALL classes of people not only the lower classes. At the time, believing that the feeble minded should NOT be allowed to breed was a fairly mainstream belief...at the time, the belief that immigrants were overbreeding was a mainstream belief. America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #16. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#14) This is from your own link: “Those opposed to women’s equality in any form will always use it against her and the movement she founded, even though she more than redeemed herself and was among the first U.S leaders to denounce Hitler.” What is it with you folks and actually reading stuff? Frist Erica...then Hondo...now YOU... America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #17. To: Badeye (#13) Apparently Sanger's own speeches, and personal letters aren't concrete evidence with some? Post one Boofer... /asshole America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #18. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#14) Sanger is a person who the present-day Left would just as soon expunge from the history books. They only want to do that now because her letters, speeches, and other commentary are becoming 'known', primarily due to the internet. The simple, undeniable truth is Margaret Sanger wanted to eliminate 'inferior' breeds within the human species. There is no spinning it. Her own words, in her own handwriting, confirm this beyond any doubt. Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao #19. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#14) btw, I note this as someone who reluctantly believes abortion is a choice best left in the home. Its nobody's business except the parties directly involved, meaning the two potential parents. Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao #20. To: Badeye (#19) Sanger was anti-abortion, Boof. America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #21. To: war (#16) What is it with you folks and actually reading stuff? Frist Erica...then Hondo...now YOU... It's a persistent Tea Bagger trait.
#22. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#14) The third are those irresponsible and reckless ones having little regard for the consequence of their acts, or whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers. Many of this group are diseased, feeble- minded, and are of the pauper element dependent entirely upon the normal and fit members of society for their support. There is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped. For if they are not able to support and care for themselves, they should certainly not be allowed to bring offspring into this world for others to look after. We do not believe that filling the earth with misery, poverty and disease is moral. And it is our desire and intention to carry on our crusade until the perpetuation of such conditions has ceased. We desire to stop at its source the disease, poverty and feeble-mindedness and insanity which exist today, for these lower the standards of civilization and make for race deterioration. We know that the masses of people are growing wiser and are using their own minds to decide their individual conduct. The more people of this kind we have, the less immorality shall exist. For the more responsible people grow, the higher do they and shall they attain real morality. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tell me what your issue with the above is... America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #23. To: war (#15) t the time, believing that the feeble minded should NOT be allowed to breed was a fairly mainstream belief...at the time, the belief that immigrants were overbreeding was a mainstream belief. So was the belief that "negroes" shouldn't be allowed to breed. Look - it's okay to admit that our own particular set of "giants" of the past actually had feet of clay. Harry Truman was a "good" liberal - but many of his views (mainstream in his day) would be considered racist today. __________________________________________________________________________________________
#24. To: war (#22) (Edited) The third are those irresponsible and reckless ones having little regard for the consequence of their acts, or whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers. Many of this group are diseased, feeble- minded, and are of the pauper element dependent entirely upon the normal and fit members of society for their support. There is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped. For if they are not able to support and care for themselves, they should certainly not be allowed to bring offspring into this world for others to look after. We do not believe that filling the earth with misery, poverty and disease is moral. And it is our desire and intention to carry on our crusade until the perpetuation of such conditions has ceased. I'm trying to figure out if Margaret sounds more like a Tea Bagger or a Reagan Republican.
#25. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#23) (Edited) So was the belief that "negroes" shouldn't be allowed to breed. She did not target specific races or peoples. At the time, preventing feeble minded people from breeding was statutory law in several states. See: Buck v. Bell. The issue of the or a Srate having the power to control family size, while never being decided, has certainly been a power that the SCOTUS has recognized as existing even if not exercised. The issue here is not whether Sanger had "feet of clay" but, rather, her association with eugenics and thus Hitler as well as curtrent abortion law. Making those associations fails for several reasons. America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #26. To: mininggold (#24) It's typical of the right's penchant for bastardizing history. I find it hilarious that Boofer wants us to believe that a) he has any in depth knowledge of Sanger and b) that her writings and speeches were somehow hidden until today...hell...you can listen to some of her speeches...they were recorded... America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #27. To: war (#22) Tell me what your issue with the above is... It's with definitions. How did she define "feeble-minded". Were they reproducing in great numbers? And is she just singling out Catholics when she writes "religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers"? I'm pretty sure in Sanger's day, that people who were legally insane or "retarded" were probably placed in institutions - which should have segregated them by sex so as to prevent procreation. I don't have a problem with promoting birth control - as long as it's not being forced by a ever powerful and ubiquitous government. __________________________________________________________________________________________
#28. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#27) How did she define "feeble-minded" The earliest recorded use of the term in the English language dates from 1534 when it appears in one of the first English translations of the new testament in the biblical injunction to "Comforte the feble mynded".[1] A Times editorial of November 1834 describes the long serving former Prime Minister Lord Liverpool as a "feeble-minded pedant of office". [2] However, from the latter half of the nineteenth century the term feeble-minded acquired a much more precise meaning as a type of "mental deficiency". Mental deficiency itself was an umbrella term which encompassed all degrees of educational and social deficiency. Within the concept of mental deficiency there was a hierarchy of disability ranging from idiocy, at the most severe end of the scale, to imbecility, at the median point, and to feeblemindedness at the highest end which was conceived of as a form of high grade mental deficiency.[3] The invention of this ranking system of mental deficiency has been credited to Sir Charles Trevelyan in 1876,[4] however, it had in fact been in use at least ten years previously.[5] In addition, wild card terms outside of the established hierarchy of mental deficiency, such as idiot savant may have been used as connotations for those who were thought to fall somewhere under the autistic spectrum.[citation needed] The British government's Royal Commission on the Care and Control of the Feeble- Minded (1904-1908), in its Report in 1908 defined the feeble-minded as: persons who may be capable of earning a living under favourable circumstances, but are incapable from mental defect, existing from birth or from an early age: (1) of competing on equal terms with their normal fellows, or (2) of managing themselves and their affairs with ordinary prudence.[5] Despite being pejorative, the term was considered, along with idiot and moron, to be a relatively precise psychiatric label in its day.
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/feeble-minded#ixzz1Y8eOI4XG The American psychologist Henry H. Goddard, creator of the term moron, was director of the Vineland Training School (originally the Vineland Training School for Backward and Feeble-minded Children) at Vineland, New Jersey. Goddard was known for postulating most effectively that "feeble-mindedness" was a hereditary trait, most likely caused by a single recessive gene. This led Goddard to ring eugenic alarm bells in his 1912 work, The Kallikak Family: A Study in the Heredity of Feeble-Mindedness, about those in the population who carried the recessive trait despite outward appearances of normality. In the first half of the 20th century, "feeble-mindedness, in any of its grades" was a common criterion for compulsory sterilization in many U.S. states. In the 1927 case Buck v. Bell, Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes closed the 8-1 majority opinion upholding the sterilization of Carrie Buck, who along with her mother and daughter was labeled "feeble-minded", with the infamous phrase, "Three generations of imbeciles are enough." Jack London's 1914 story, "Told in the Drooling Ward," describes inmates at a California institution for the "feeble-minded." Such an institution existed (the California Home for the Care and Training of Feeble-minded Children, now the Sonoma Developmental Center) close to the Jack London Ranch in Glen Ellen, California. The story is a narrative told from the point of view of a self- styled "high-grade feeb".
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/feeble-minded#ixzz1Y8eJAolv America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #29. To: war (#16) This is from your own link: “Those opposed to women’s equality in any form will always use it against her and the movement she founded, even though she more than redeemed herself and was among the first U.S leaders to denounce Hitler.” I cited a pro-choice, feminist website (which could not be negated as "right-wing") While I give them Kudos for at least acknowledging Sanger's eugenic ties, I'm not surprised that they then go one to use hyperbole (those opposed to women's equality IN ANY FORM??) to create a strawman argument. Again I'll draw a Truman analogy - If a democrat leaning website was discussing Truman, they might say "he held many racist viewpoints." But then - to mitigate that to their audience - they would say something like "But he fought LONG and HARD against those dastardly, evil republicans of his day" See how that works? As to the comment about Sanger vs. Hitler: Sanger did denouce Hitler in 1933, so it appears that statement about her has merit. __________________________________________________________________________________________
#30. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#29) (Edited) I cited a pro-choice, feminist website (which could not be negated as "right-wing") Yes you did. You also imply that the site is somehow stipulating that Sanger represented an ongoing personification of the worst of the eugenics movement. In fact, tbe site does the opposite. It states that the "stain is difficult to remoive" but then goes ahead and removes that stain by citing the whole history of Sanger's work. In other words, the stain isn't permanent but remedied. While I give them Kudos for at least acknowledging Sanger's eugenic ties, What they, in fact, acknowledge is that Sanger's ties to negative eugenics are tenuous. That her commitment was to birth/poulation control across all segments and classes. I'm not surprised that they then go one to use hyperbole (those opposed to women's equality IN ANY FORM??) to create a strawman argument. It wasn't hyperbole but, in fact, an accurate observation. Their numbers may be diminished from Sanger's time but "they" are still out there.
Sanger did denouce Hitler in 1933, so it appears that statement about her has merit. Merit?!? How about just admitting that it's 100% true. Sanger was anti-abortion on demand...true or false? America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #31. To: war (#30) Yes you did. You also imply that the site is somehow stipulating that Sanger represented an ongoing personification of the worst of the eugenics movement. Here's the conclusion I've drawn re: the eugenics movement. It was a natural offshoot of Darwinism. It made sense (it you throw ethics out the window): if animals could be selectively bred, why not humans? Many late 19th-early 20th century academics and intellectuals glommed onto the idea. It wasn't until the darker possibilities became apparent (surprise - you cannot throw ethics out, after all) that the movement came into disfavor. This little exercise into the history of eugenics in general and Sanger in particular has underscored (to me, at least) the danger of demonizing past historical figures. (Or on the flip side - putting them on pedestals). Unless you've done a doctoral dissertation on someone and can be considered an expert, just leave it that we all have good points and bad. __________________________________________________________________________________________
#32. To: jwpegler, Brian S (#1) Listening to the eugenicists in the American Progressive movement. Edwin Black, War Against the Weak, Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race, (2003), pp. 258-60:
Gassing the unwanted, the lethal chamber and other methods of euthanasia became a part of everyday American parlance and ethical debate some two decades before President Woodrow Wilson, in General Order 62, directed that the "Gas Service" become the "Chemical Warfare Service," instructing them to develop toxic gas weapons for world war. The lethal chamber was a eugenic concept more than two decades before Nevada approved the first such chamber for criminal executions in 1921, and then gassed with cyanide a Chinese-born murderer, the first such execution in the world. Davenport declared that capital punishment was a eugenic necessity. Popenoe's textbook, Applied Eugenics, listed execution as one of nine suggested remedies for defectives—without specifying criminals. The Supreme Court in Buck v. Bell, 274 U.S. 200 (8-1) was decided in 1927. The Supreme Court approved forced sterilization with the following famous passage:
Carrie Buck is a feeble-minded white woman who was committed to the State Colony above mentioned in due form. She is the daughter of a feeble- minded mother in the same institution, and the mother of an illegitimate feeble-minded child. She was eighteen years old at the time of the trial of her case in the Circuit Court in the latter part of 1924. An Act of Virginia approved March 20, 1924 (Laws 1924, c. 394) recites that the health of the patient and the welfare of society may be promoted in certain cases by the sterilization of mental defectives.... The law approved by the court required a showing that the person belonged to a lineage containing three consecutive imbeciles, and thus arises the Court's comment "Three generations of imbeciles are enough." It was shown to the satisfaction of the lower courts and the Supreme Court that Carrie Buck was an imbecile, Ms. Buck's mother was an imbecile and that her daughter Vivian was an imbecile. That was three generations. Pursuant to this ruling of the U.S. Supreme Court, Carrie Buck was sterilized on October 19, 1927. Her daughter Vivian was placed in the care of another family named Dobbs. Although declared an imbecile by the courts, daughter Vivian was enrolled in school and earned her place on the honor roll.
"Even states with strong eugenics movements had only performed a small number: Kansas, for instance, had sterilized or castrated 335 men and women; Nebraska had sterilized 262 men and women; Oregon had sterilized 313; and Wisconsin had sterilized 144." SOURCE: Edwin Black, War Against the Weak, 2003, pp. 122-3. See also The Black Stork. Chicago Tribune, November 15, 1915 Chicago Tribune, November 18, 1915 The Black Stork Newspaper Controversy http://www.npr.org/programs/disability/ba_shows.dir/children.dir/highlights/blacksto.html
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#33. To: Badeye, Get Outta Dodge!, war (#18) The simple, undeniable truth is Margaret Sanger wanted to eliminate 'inferior' breeds within the human species. There is no spinning it.
Her family had been Irish as far back as she could trace; the strain of the Norman conquerors had run true throughout the generations, and may have accounted for her unfaltering courage. Mother's eleven children were all ten-pounders or more, and both she and father had a eugenic pride of race. Margaret Sanger: An Autobiography, (W.W. Norton & Company, 1938; New York: Dover Publications, 1971), pp. 107-08. Sanger, at 374, expressed that birth control was one part of eugenics:
The eugenists were given their opportunity to sepak at the Conference. Eugenics, which had started long before my time, had once been defined as including free love and prevention of conception. Moses Harman of Chicago, one of its chief early adherents, had run a magazine and gone to jail for it under the Comstock regime. Recently it had cropped up again in the form of selecting breeding, and biologists and geneticists such as Clarence C. Little, President of the University of Maine, and C. B. Davenport, Director of the Cold Spring Harbor Station for Experimental Evolution, had popularized their findings under this heading. Protoplasm was the substance then supposed to carry on heredetary traits—genes and chromosomes were a later discovery. Professor Davenport used to lift his eyes reverently and, with his hands upraised as though in supplication, quiver emotionally as he breathed, "Protoplasm. We want more protoplasm." SANGER Margaret - The Pivot of Civilization (1922)
Margaret Sanger, The Pivot of Civilization, Brentano's Publishers, New York, 1922, pp. 134-35.
Such philanthropy, as Dean Inge has so unanswerably pointed out, is kind only to be cruel, and unwittingly promotes precisely the results most deprecated. It encourages the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant. Margaret Sanger, The Pivot of Civilization, Brentano's Publishers, New York, 1922, pp. 101-02.
The emergency problem of segregation and sterilization must be faced immediately. Every feeble-minded girl or woman of the hereditary type, especially of the moron class, should be segregated during the reproductive period. Otherwise, she is almost certain to bear imbecile children, who in tum are just as certain to breed other defectives. The male defectives are no less dangerous. Segregation carried out for one or two generations would give us only partial control of the problem. Moreover, when we realize that each feeble-minded person is a potential source of an endless progeny of defect, we prefer the policy of immediate sterilization, of making sure that parenthood is absolutely prohibited to the feeble-minded. 102-04:
At the present moment, we are offered three distinct and more or less mutually exclusive policies by which civilization may hope to protect itself and the generations of the future from the allied dangers of imbecility, defect and delinquency. Noone can Understand the necessity for Birth Control education without a complete comprehension of the dangers, the inadequacies, or the limitations of the present attempts at control, or the proposed programs for social reconstruction and racial regeneration. It is, therefore, necessary to interpret and criticize the three programs offered to meet our emergency. These may be brielly summarized as follows: Margaret Sanger, The Pivot of Civilization, Brentano's Publishers, New York, 1922, pp. 123.
The most serious charge that can be brought against modern "benevolence" is that it encourages the perpetuation of defectives, delinquents and dependents. These are the most dangerous elements in the world community, the most devastating curse on human progress and expression. Philanthropy is a gesture characteristic of modern business lavishing upon the unfit the profits extorted from the community at large. Looked at impartially, this compensatory generosity is in its final effect probably more dangerous, more dysgenic, more blighting than the initial practice of profiteering and the social injustice which makes some too rich and others too poor.
#34. To: nolu chan (#32) One such agitator was a disgruntled corporal in the German army. He was an extreme nationalist who also considered himself a race biologist and an advocate of a master race. He was willing to use force to achieve his nationalist racial goals. His inner circle included Germany's most prominent eugenic publisher. In 1924, he was serving time in prison for mob action. While in prison, he spent his time poring over eugenic textbooks, which extensively quoted Davenport, Popenoe and other American raceo-logical stalwarts. Moreover, he closely followed the writings of Leon Whitney, president of the American Eugenics Society, and Madison Grant, who extolled the Nordic race and bemoaned its corruption by Jews, Negroes, Slavs and others who did not possess blond hair and blue eyes. The young German corporal even wrote one of them fan mail. As I said... Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon Johnson were president? -- Jackie Kennedy #35. To: nolu chan (#33) There you go again, inserting fact where some do not desire it (laughing) Boy that 'moron class' must really sting some of our resident fools. Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao #36. To: Badeye (#35) There you go again, inserting fact where some do not desire it (laughing) ` Thanks for admitting to not reading what he posted... America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #37. To: nolu chan (#33) Thanks for posting this. I have a copy of this book somewhere in a box in my attic. I am fairly certain that Rand had to have read this book and found it formative to her views on charity. America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #38. To: Badeye, nolu chan (#36) (Edited) Eugenics: Eugenics seems to me to be valuable in its critical and diagnostic aspects,in emphasizing the danger of irresponsible and uncontrolled fertility of the "unfit" and the feeble-minded establishing a progressive unbalance in human society and lowering the birth-rate among the "fit'" But in its so-called"constructive" aspect, in seeking to reestablish the dominance of healthy strain over the unhealthy, by urging an increased birth-rate among the fit, the Eugenists really offer nothing more farsighted than a "cradle competition" between the fit and the unfit. They suggest in very truth, that all intelligent and respectable parents should take as their example in this grave matter of child-bearing the most irresponsible elements in the community. America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest |
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