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Title: Afghanistan Crash: 31 American Special Forces Killed In Worst Single Incident In War
Source: SLATE
URL Source: http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011 ... orces_killed_in_worst_sin.html
Published: Aug 6, 2011
Author: SLATE
Post Date: 2011-08-06 11:24:25 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 20155
Comments: 30

Taliban insurgents shot down a NATO Chinook helicopter that was taking part in an overnight mission in Afghanistan, killing 31 American Special Operations forces and seven Afghans who were aboard, according to a statement issued by Afghan President Hamid Karzai. The numbers are still unclear as there was no official confirmation from NATO, but it would amount to “the worst single-day toll for American forces in Afghanistan since U.S. troops entered that country nearly 10 years ago, and one of the largest tolls in a single incident of either the Afghan war or the fighting in Iraq,” reports McClatchy.

The New York Times talks to a “coalition military official” who said that “at least 37 people” had been killed but he could not confirm the information provided by Karzai on their nationalities or units. The Los Angeles Times talks to a “Western military official” who confirmed that the “twin-rotor CH-47 helicopter had apparently been brought down by a rocket-propelled grenade moments after takeoff.” The limited amount of information available hours after the crash could be partly due to the fact that “special forces commanders as a rule are slower than other branches to publicly acknowledge combat casualties,” explains the LAT. The crash would mean that at least 374 foreign troops have been killed so far in 2011, details Reuters.

The Washington Post points out that another coalition helicopter “was forced to make a precautionary landing in another part of Afghanistan.” The Taliban quickly claimed responsibility for both attacks and said eight insurgents had been killed. There are conflicting reports of when the incident in Wardak province took place, with the NYT citing a Taliban spokesman saying it was shot down around 11 p.m. Friday, while the Guardian cites a provincial official who says it was around 3 a.m.

Previously, the deadliest day for the American military in Afghanistan was June 28, 2005, when 16 Navy SEALs and Army Special Operations troops were killed when their helicopter was shot down and three more Seals were killed on the ground, notes the Associated Press. McClatchy points out that the last time “the U.S. military suffered such catastrophic losses” was in January 2005, when 30 troops were killed in a helicopter crash in Iraq and six others died on the ground across the country.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

American military helicopters suck (basically Korean - Vietnam war era technology upgraded with modern avionics). We should buy Russian ones.

With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-06   11:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Godwinson (#1)

Thank you, Barry (Nobel Peace Prize) 0bama.

What will he do for his third encore? Get us into a war with Upper Volta??

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-06   11:33:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Liberator (#2)

Thank you, Barry (Nobel Peace Prize) 0bama.

What will he do for his third encore? Get us into a war with Upper Volta??

So you advocate surrendering and losing the war George W. Bush started? In any case, American helicopter technology is crap. We even lost a chopper raiding OBL's compound due to hot air (yea, hot air caused the chopper to lose lift).

Buy Russian.

PS: Ever live in another country and return to the USA? America to me is a third world country full of uneducated peons living in dilapidated housing/cities with poorly maintained infrastructure.

With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-06   11:38:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All, 25 SEALs in Helicopter Crash in Afghanistan (#0)

31 Americans Killed Including 25 SEALs in Helicopter Crash in Afghanistan

A helicopter crash in Afghanistan killed 31 Americans, including as many as 25 Navy SEALs in one of the worst single-day U.S. losses of life since the war began, a senior military official told ABC News early this morning.

A total of 38 people were on board the Chinook helicopter when it crashed overnight in the eastern Afghan province of Wardak.

Initial reports indicate up to 25 Navy SEALs were on the aircraft at the time.

It was also carrying seven Afghan Special Forces troops, one interpreter, five member helicopter crew and one dog.

abcnews.go.com/Internatio...25-navy/story?id=14245387

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-08-06   11:43:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#4)

What a crying shame. Those Chinooks have always been a less than reliable means of transport IMO. I was on one about 30 years ago for a training exercise.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-08-06   11:48:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Godwinson (#3)

Great news!
There is a direct relationship between Obama f-ups and you insulting Americans.
Please ping me to all of your future anti-American histrionics.

socalv8  posted on  2011-08-06   11:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator (#2)

Afghanistan Crash: 31 American Special Forces Killed In Worst Single Incident In War

This is probably wonderful news to the glory hole dwelling Guido over at LP.

It would be nice if these Jack Boot Thug military criminal assholes could police their own like LE does. I'm about tired of my tax money paying for these suck holes to beat their wives, steal equipment... drive drunk... SMUGGLE DRUGS over the Mexican border... pointing rifles at cops... GrandIsland posted on 2011-07-31 0:49:30 ET Reply Trace

nativist nationalist  posted on  2011-08-06   13:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: nativist nationalist (#7)

(Afghanistan Crash: 31 American Special Forces Killed In Worst Single Incident In War)

This is probably wonderful news to the glory hole dwelling Guido over at LP.

LOL!

He's such a stupid, vapid clueless tool, Fire Island makes Paris Hilton seem like Henry Kissinger.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-06   13:58:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: nativist nationalist (#7)

This is probably wonderful news to the glory hole dwelling Guido over at LP.

Well IF he were a real cop (he's not), it would appear that he despises the military because he never had the balls or intestinal fortitude to join. Also, IF he were a real cop (he's not) it would drive his faux personality batty that the praise he believes he should receive is instead given to the men and women serving in the armed forces. However, since he is a liberal (like yukon, Gatlin, and Goldi herself) pretending to be a cop, the truth of the matter is that he just hates the military.

Here's another giveaway that he is not a real conservative:

#33. To: mnbound (#25)

…and lets immediately cut your ENTITLEMENTS to social security and Medicare!

…and lets immediately cut WELFARE and social programs!

There.. I fixed it... you liberal scumbag:-)

Why suggest cutting ANY program a WORKER DONATED to... before suggesting cutting programs that are 100% handout... unless you are a bleeding heart... filthy.. pot smoking... hippie SCUMBAG?

GrandIsland posted on 2011-08-06 12:49:07 ET Reply Trace

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=311581&Disp=37#C33

His job, like that of the other faux conservatives on LP, is to throw shit at anyone discussing reducing the size of government. In the above case he doesn't even make sense. Wanting to cut SS and medicare is and has always been a conservative position. He let his anger get the best of him and his real political belief bled through.

Fibr Dog  posted on  2011-08-06   14:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Godwinson (#3) (Edited)

So you advocate surrendering and losing the war George W. Bush started?

"Surrendering" what exactly? Have you any idea just what we'd "win" in the sh*t-hole called Afghanistan?

Can you tell me just WTH is the "mission" in Afghanistan 10 years AFTER 9/11? And unlike you and your Dem brethren, I am not a sycophant of ANY politician. Dubya was a lying azzhole who was the best Dem President who ever masqueraded as a Republican/conservative/Christian.

0bama (inexplicably) was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize barely a month into his term as President and now he's got us involved in FOUR wars. Will he return his "Peace Prize"? Stop making excuses for your Dear Leader.

Can you tell me why 0bama has sabotaged and made vulnerable America's military by ordering ridiculous Rule of Engagement?

In any case, American helicopter technology is crap. We even lost a chopper raiding OBL's compound due to hot air (yea, hot air caused the chopper to lose lift). Buy Russian.

NOT a factor. ALL equipment breaks down if not maintained. PS: Ever live in another country and return to the USA? America to me is a third world country full of uneducated peons living in dilapidated housing/cities with poorly maintained infrastructure.

No. But what's your point?

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-06   14:10:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Fibr Dog, nativist nationalist, e_type_jag (#9)

Well IF he were a real cop (he's not), it would appear that he despises the military because he never had the balls or intestinal fortitude to join.

Fire Island does have a badge, but your point about failing to back up his roid-raged gung-ho kick-ass 'tude by joining the military is conspicuously notable. He's hiding his heroic balls in a quiet sleep suburban town "fighting" dangerous litterers, jaywalkers, and "speeders" in his plush stratolounger called a "Crown Vic." He's nothing but a revenue collector with a shiny badge.

His job, like that of the other faux conservatives on LP, is to throw shit at anyone discussing reducing the size of government.

BINGO. Of course he's pro-Union thug and routinely talks down good non-Union LEOs and real conservatives like e_type_jag.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-06   14:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Fibr Dog, jwpegler (#9)

Why suggest cutting ANY program a WORKER DONATED to... before suggesting cutting programs that are 100% handout... unless you are a bleeding heart... filthy.. pot smoking... hippie SCUMBAG?

Interesting question. You need to ask jwpegler that since that's something he advocates too.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-08-06   14:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: socalv8 (#6) (Edited)

Great news!

Thank you for proving you cheer the death of Americans as long as it makes Obama look bad. That's the GOP tea Party in a nutshell.

With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-06   14:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Liberator (#10)

Surrendering" what exactly?

Thank you for proving you cheer the death of Americans as long as it makes Obama look bad. That's the GOP tea Party in a nutshell.

With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-06   14:31:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Liberator (#11)

Fire Island does have a badge, but your point about failing to back up his roid-raged gung-ho kick-ass 'tude by joining the military is conspicuously notable. He's hiding his heroic balls in a quiet sleep suburban town "fighting" dangerous litterers, jaywalkers, and "speeders" in his plush stratolounger called a "Crown Vic." He's nothing but a revenue collector with a shiny badge.

Sounds like he's Ernst Röhm in a Crown Vic.

Our intrepid Fire Island is patrolling the mean suburban streets of Mayfield, USA in his Crown Vic listening to radio and singing along to a Led Zeppelin tune. "...Yukon, gonna give you both inch of my love...WTF!" (after he spots Beaver Cleaver and Larry Mondello selling lemonade). He goes speeds down the quiet tree lined street at 60mph to the scene of the crime, he opens the door and takes his Glock off safety, but then slams the door after spotting a puppy next to the lemonade stand. He reaches for his radio and calls "this is Fire Island, I'm at the corner of Elm Street and 17th, the perps are 2 Caucasian males, I'm gonna need back up..."

It would be nice if these Jack Boot Thug military criminal assholes could police their own like LE does. I'm about tired of my tax money paying for these suck holes to beat their wives, steal equipment... drive drunk... SMUGGLE DRUGS over the Mexican border... pointing rifles at cops... GrandIsland posted on 2011-07-31 0:49:30 ET Reply Trace

nativist nationalist  posted on  2011-08-07   0:20:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Fibr Dog (#9)

Well IF he were a real cop (he's not), it would appear that he despises the military because he never had the balls or intestinal fortitude to join. Also, IF he were a real cop (he's not) it would drive his faux personality batty that the praise he believes he should receive is instead given to the men and women serving in the armed forces. However, since he is a liberal (like yukon, Gatlin, and Goldi herself) pretending to be a cop, the truth of the matter is that he just hates the military.

That is true, he despises guys like Judge Parker and leadpenny who served in Vietnam. Look into the heart of Fire Island and you will see Jane Fonda posing on the NVA AAA.

It would be nice if these Jack Boot Thug military criminal assholes could police their own like LE does. I'm about tired of my tax money paying for these suck holes to beat their wives, steal equipment... drive drunk... SMUGGLE DRUGS over the Mexican border... pointing rifles at cops... GrandIsland posted on 2011-07-31 0:49:30 ET Reply Trace

nativist nationalist  posted on  2011-08-07   0:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Liberator (#8)

He's such a stupid, vapid clueless tool, Fire Island makes Paris Hilton seem like Henry Kissinger.

Did his butt buddy ever have the stones to show up on the thread here about him praising the murder of that guy in Fullertan? His original login was made available to him.

It would be nice if these Jack Boot Thug military criminal assholes could police their own like LE does. I'm about tired of my tax money paying for these suck holes to beat their wives, steal equipment... drive drunk... SMUGGLE DRUGS over the Mexican border... pointing rifles at cops... GrandIsland posted on 2011-07-31 0:49:30 ET Reply Trace

nativist nationalist  posted on  2011-08-07   0:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: nativist nationalist, e_type_jag (#15)

Sounds like he's Ernst Röhm in a Crown Vic.

ROFLMAO!!

Our intrepid Fire Island is patrolling the mean suburban streets of Mayfield, USA in his Crown Vic listening to radio and singing along to a Led Zeppelin tune. "...Yukon, gonna give you both inch of my love...WTF!" (after he spots Beaver Cleaver and Larry Mondello selling lemonade). He goes speeds down the quiet tree lined street at 60mph to the scene of the crime, he opens the door and takes his Glock off safety, but then slams the door after spotting a puppy next to the lemonade stand. He reaches for his radio and calls "this is Fire Island, I'm at the corner of Elm Street and 17th, the perps are 2 Caucasian males, I'm gonna need back up..."

That's hysterical!!

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   0:44:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: nativist nationalist (#17)

Did his butt buddy ever have the stones to show up on the thread here about him praising the murder of that guy in Fullertan? His original login was made available to him.

Which butt-buddy is that? Fire Island's involved in a menage-a-manhole over there.

Was it the thread where he orgasmed over the retarded guy who was beat to a pulp by the six roided-up "peace officers"??

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   0:49:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Godwinson (#14)

Thank you for proving you cheer the death of Americans as long as it makes Obama look bad. That's the GOP tea Party in a nutshell.

You're reply has zip, nada, nothing to do with ANY point made in my post to you, Zippy. Are you hitting the Oozo hard this evening?

That's Destro-a-nutshell (or nut-sack.)

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   0:53:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#18)

Someone badmouthed his lover and Fire Island went berzerk. They ought to just come out of the closet, and head over to NYC and tie the knot.

It would be nice if these Jack Boot Thug military criminal assholes could police their own like LE does. I'm about tired of my tax money paying for these suck holes to beat their wives, steal equipment... drive drunk... SMUGGLE DRUGS over the Mexican border... pointing rifles at cops... GrandIsland posted on 2011-07-31 0:49:30 ET Reply Trace

nativist nationalist  posted on  2011-08-07   0:53:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Liberator (#19)

Was it the thread where he orgasmed over the retarded guy who was beat to a pulp by the six roided-up "peace officers"??

That was the one, I think the guy who started the thread runs this site. I would not be surprised if he avoids the thread just like he avoided military service. They bark like pit bulls and bite like chihuahuas.

It would be nice if these Jack Boot Thug military criminal assholes could police their own like LE does. I'm about tired of my tax money paying for these suck holes to beat their wives, steal equipment... drive drunk... SMUGGLE DRUGS over the Mexican border... pointing rifles at cops... GrandIsland posted on 2011-07-31 0:49:30 ET Reply Trace

nativist nationalist  posted on  2011-08-07   0:56:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: nativist nationalist (#21)

Someone badmouthed his lover and Fire Island went berzerk. They ought to just come out of the closet, and head over to NYC and tie the knot.

*Laughing my azz off*

I believe FI already lives in NY. He and the gay canary need to exchange vows, rings, and (eeeww!) in the Village ASAP.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   0:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator (#23)

I believe FI already lives in NY. He and the gay canary need to exchange vows, rings, and (eeeww!) in the Village ASAP.

I suspect that his lover may also live in NYC. He's not posting from the 49th street, he's posting from his glory hole on 49th street, a few blocks away from Times Square.

It would be nice if these Jack Boot Thug military criminal assholes could police their own like LE does. I'm about tired of my tax money paying for these suck holes to beat their wives, steal equipment... drive drunk... SMUGGLE DRUGS over the Mexican border... pointing rifles at cops... GrandIsland posted on 2011-07-31 0:49:30 ET Reply Trace

nativist nationalist  posted on  2011-08-07   1:08:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Godwinson (#13)

Thank you for proving you cheer the death of Americans as long as it makes Obama look bad.

Lie.
I notice you aren't posting praises about the German economy anymore, why?

socalv8  posted on  2011-08-08   2:13:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: socalv8 (#25)

I notice you aren't posting praises about the German economy anymore, why?

It did not come up. Christian Social Market economics is still outperforming America's economy and it is America's economy that caused the world collapse to begin with.

With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-08   10:46:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Godwinson (#26)

It did not come up.

Correct. DAX tanked just like I said it would. You were wrong again, so you changed tactics again.

The Obama Downgrade puts his second term out of reach...Hooray, hippy!

socalv8  posted on  2011-08-08   12:13:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: socalv8 (#27)

DAX tanked

DAX is not the measure of the German economy.

German car exports, domestic sales up around 10 percent in July

American capitalist suckers who live and die by the financial markets because they gave up manufacturing to China,.,,,,,

With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-08   12:17:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Godwinson (#28)

DAX is not the measure of the German economy.

You said it was last week, hypocrite.
Hence, you are back to bad mouthing religion, just like Hitler.

We'd kick their ass a third time, but they've learned humility...you should try it, hippy.

socalv8  posted on  2011-08-08   12:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: socalv8 (#29)

You said it was last week, hypocrite.

Show me where I mentioned DAX is a measure of the German economy (it's their Dow Jones which is not a reflection of the economy). When Wall Street was up did that mean America was doing great?

With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-08   12:36:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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