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Opinions/Editorials Title: Why the GOP Aims to Sink the Economy
If our economy was the RMS Titanic, Republicans would be like an ambitious first mate, so eager to seize power from the captain that he steers the ship of state into an iceberg, thinking he'll take over when the captain goes down with the ship. Republicans have forgotten — or no longer care — they're on the boat too, and they're working very hard to ensure that the country will be nearly ungovernable should they succeed in seizing the reins of government.
If it seems like the White House is arranging deck chairs on the Titanic, the GOP is busy measuring the the captain's quarters for drapes, even as the ocean pours in. And the tea party orchestra plays on, with just one song on the playlist — "Under the Sea." You can take your pick for the moment the GOP noticably went off the rails. I have two favorites: when it fell to Peggy Noonan to be the Republicans' voice of reason following Sarah Palin's VP nomination, and when David Brooks warned the GOP that it "may no longer be a normal party". Together, they're the political equivalent of Courtney Love showing up at your intervention and Charlie Sheen offering you a ride to rehab. But this Republican party isn't likely to heed such sane voices as Noonan and Brooks, and would just as soon throw them overboard. The defining moment, as Carl Pope points out, is one that shows how disturbingly deep the GOP's current brand of crazy (that Noonan, Books and others are just noticing) runs, and how far back it goes.
There have been other moments, and debt deal debacle has spawned some real jaw-droppers — like Sen. John McCain, fresh from blaming Arizona's forest fires on illegal immigrants — calling the GOP's game of chicken on the debt limit "foolish" and "bizarre." One that was brought to my attention this morning, was former Club For Growth vice president, Sen. Pete Toomey's interview with CNN's Ali Velshi.
OK. Let's just stop right there, shall we? Notice that there is no hesitation on Toomey's part when Velshi asks whether it would be worth it to close a few corporate tax loopholes to avoid default and the immediate cessation of about 40% of government spending. He says, "No," without even pausing to think about it. If the GOP's and the tea party's corporate funders can't keep their tax loopholes wide open, there's no deal. Just to prove he's a reasonable man, Toomey proposed a partial shutdown that would keep Social Security checks and military paychecks flowing while everything else gets zeroed out. (I'm guessing this is the Michelle Bachmann legislation, which basically empowers the federal government to squeeze blood from turnips.) But it's not until you look at a list of what Toomey and the rest of his caucus are would rather see come to pass that you get a look at how deep this goes. Kevin Drum posted just such a list (borrowed from Megan McArdle) at Mother Jones. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-12) not displayed.
#13. To: Capitalist Eric (#12) Having another conversation with your OTHER screen name, in a vain attempt to bolster yourself? Let's see....both you and Murron act like you are perennially on the rag for one, while always trying to out shout other posters in extra large fonts rather than present a reasoned argument for two. And you both Bozo others quite readily for three. And seem to have almost the exact same opinion on every issue for four and even use many of the same nasty phrases for five, and wish posters to commit suicide for six. Yep... it's entirely possible.
#14. To: Brian S (#0) If our economy was the RMS Titanic, Republicans would be like... It's Obamas economy. Also, people that start off opinion pieces like that this are stupid, in this case,
#15. To: socalv8 (#14) The couple are frequent guests at Obama's White House. So what? "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly #16. To: Capitalist Eric (#11) Strung together any coherent thoughts lately? Good morning to you CE. You're one STUPID bitch, I'll give you that.
Projecting again, I see. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly #17. To: mininggold (#13) Let's see....both you and Murron act like you are perennially on the rag for one, while always trying to out shout other posters in extra large fonts rather than present a reasoned argument for two. And you both Bozo others quite readily for three. And seem to have almost the exact same opinion on every issue for four and even use many of the same nasty phrases for five, and wish posters to commit suicide for six. Yep... it's entirely possible. You make a good case. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly #18. To: lucysmom (#15) So what? The author is a black, flaming homosexual and frequent guest to Obama's parties writing anti-GOP drivel.
#19. To: socalv8 (#18) (Edited) Fair to point that out, I think. Pointing out is one thing. Using it to obviate the observations made is another. Poe was an opium addicted drunken pedophile but his writing is still as brilliant today as it was then. America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #20. To: lucysmom (#17) You make a good case. I forgot to add they are both totally lacking in the recognition of any insight into their own personal behavior, for seven.
#21. To: socalv8 (#18) The author is a black, flaming homosexual and frequent guest to Obama's parties writing anti-GOP drivel. Fair to point that out, I think. Again, so what? Remember the white, homosexual, journalist/prostitute, right-wing nut who was a frequent visitor to the Bush White House? "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly #22. To: war (#19) Pointing out is one thing. Using it to obviate the observations made is another. Observations? Where? Poe wasn't a hack. This fella is... "If our economy was the RMS Titanic, Republicans would be like an ambitious first mate, so eager to seize power from the captain that he steers the ship of state into an iceberg, thinking he'll take over when the captain goes down with the ship." But it's not until you look at a list of what Toomey and the rest of his caucus are would rather see come to pass that you get a look at how deep this goes." I googled him because I wondered what kind of freak writes for Truth Out...he and his husband went to one Bush White House function and were "forced" to stand in the "lesbian tent".
#23. To: lucysmom (#21) Again, so what? Do you remember the Left saying, "So what?"
#24. To: mininggold (#20) I forgot to add they are both totally lacking in the recognition of any insight into their own personal behavior, for seven. That's for sure! Have they ever disagreed with each other? "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly #25. To: socalv8 (#22) Observations? Where? Throughout the article. I googled him because I wondered what kind of freak writes for Truth Out...he and his husband went to one Bush White House function and were "forced" to stand in the "lesbian tent". Remind me why I'm supposed to care about this...next week. America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #26. To: socalv8 (#23) Do you remember the Left saying, "So what?" I do remember the left wondering who the prostitute was visiting in the "family values" White House. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly #27. To: socalv8 (#23) Do you remember the Left saying, "So what?" Whgat I remember is "the left" laughing, again, at the blatant hypocrisy of the right. Gannon/Guckert/Drudge/Larry Craig...all in the Oscar Meyer Fan Club... America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #28. To: war, lucysmom (#27) ...at the blatant hypocrisy of the right. The hypocrisy on this thread isn't mine...
#29. To: lucysmom, honda68, borisY (#24) That's for sure! Not to my knowledge. I also think it's a hoot that Honda and byeltsin are now posting some of the same photoshopped pictures with the same captions.
#30. To: socalv8 (#28) The hypocrisy on this thread isn't mine... Shall we debate that? Will the debate be relevant to the thread topic? If not, why bring it up? "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly #31. To: socalv8 (#28) The hypocrisy on this thread isn't mine... What do past scandals have to do with the factors that shaped Terrance Heath's poorly written "opinion"? You tell us, since you used the tactic.
#32. To: mininggold (#29) I also think it's a hoot that Honda and byeltsin are now posting some of the same photoshopped pictures with the same captions. The pool of LF posters gets smaller and smaller. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly #33. To: socalv8 (#28) (Edited) What do past scandals have to do with the factors that shaped Terrance Heath's poorly written "opinion"? Nothing. Nor does his homosexuality nor what tent he was forced into by the self-loathing closet sausage jockeys that populated the Bush administration. Are you now ready to discuss his very valid premise which is that the GOP is focued on the election rather than getting anything done? America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #34. To: mininggold, borisY (#29) it's a hoot that Honda and byeltsin are now posting some of the same photoshopped pictures Even a blind neocon pig like Boris finds an acorn now and then. Hey ya gotta admit it beats his gay klan pic?
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice. #35. To: hondo68 (#34) Now it looks like we actually MIGHT BE governed by a bunch of selfish, incompetent wack-jobs who put their careers and politics ahead of the country's interests. I have I believe 'her' tagline on Bozo.
#36. To: Brian S (#0) Truth-out? LOL Will Karl Rove be sinking the economy in "24 business hours"? Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president #37. To: mininggold (#13) Let's see....both you and Murron act like you are perennially on the rag for one, while always trying to out shout other posters in extra large fonts rather than present a reasoned argument for two. And you both Bozo others quite readily for three. And seem to have almost the exact same opinion on every issue for four and even use many of the same nasty phrases for five, and wish posters to commit suicide for six. Yep... it's entirely possible. You, OTOH, have admitted to being both loonymom AND Ming-bat. See HERE, to refresh your memory... LOL. So who you gonna' reply as, ming or loon? Or have you acquired MORE screen- names, to help bolster your vapid ideas...? It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984: War is peace. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... THEIR God... is the STATE. #38. To: lucysmom (#30) The hypocrisy on this thread isn't mine... Sure. You said, "So what?" Then switched gears to, "...prostitute was visiting in the "family values" White House." So what, in deed. I brought up info on the author of this poorly written TruthOut article. How do prostitutes and family values fit into that?
#39. To: war (#27) Gannon/Guckert/Drudge/Larry Craig... Obama's new legal team?
#40. To: mininggold (#31) You tell us, since you used the tactic. Please elaborate.
#41. To: war (#33) Are you now ready to discuss his very valid premise which is that the GOP is focued on the election rather than getting anything done? Both sides are posturing...jeez.
#42. To: socalv8 (#39) (Edited) Nope. John Boehner's. There's no way that a guy who cries that easily doesn't smoke pole. America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #43. To: socalv8 (#41) Both sides are posturing...jeez. At the end of the day, it's not John Boehner or Eric Cantor who will be explaining to the Chinese why they have to wait for their money. America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #44. To: socalv8 (#38) So what, in deed. I brought up info on the author of this poorly written TruthOut article. What does the sex of the human being the author of this article chooses to love have to do with the article? As long as they're both consenting adults, it's a so what. How do prostitutes and family values fit into that?
Apparently you are incapable of recognizing your own image in a mirror. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly #45. To: war (#43) At the end of the day, it's not John Boehner or Eric Cantor who will be explaining to the Chinese why they have to wait for their money. More money is owed to Americans like us greedy old people. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly #46. To: lucysmom (#44) What does the sex of the human being the author of this article chooses to love have to do with the article? You're the only person that cares, obviously. Quit asking. So what? Shall we debate that? Will the debate be relevant to the thread topic? Remember the white, homosexual, journalist/prostitute, right-wing nut who was a frequent visitor to the Bush White House? I do remember the left wondering who the prostitute was visiting in the "family values" White House. Again, so what? As long as they're both consenting adults, it's a so what. All I did is post the author's easily googled homo pic...relax, hypocrite.
#47. To: war (#42) There's no way that a guy who cries that easily doesn't smoke pole. Dukakisesque in it's instant gravitas depletion.
#48. To: socalv8 (#46) You're the only person that cares, obviously. Quit asking. You bothered to google and post because you didn't care - got it. ...relax, hypocrite.
Back attcha. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly #49. To: Brian S (#0) Why the GOP Aims to Sink the Economy Because they're EEEEEEEVIL! Pure EEEEEEEEVIL! The spawn of Satan!
#50. To: Brian S (#0) Why the GOP Aims to Sink the Economy You libTURDS are nothing if not predictable. You ALWAYS accuse others of what YOU are doing. THIS ECONOMIC DISASTER IS 100% the RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEMONRAT PARETEE. YOUR failed little man child messiah "king" obammy has done ALL OF THIS ON PURPOSE. THE CONDITION OF AMERICA'S ECONOMY TODAY IS 100% THE RESULT of the actions and inactions of YOUR failed little man child messiah "king" obammy! YOU demonRAT'S and YOUR diseased libTURD whores/tools/fools are the reason we are it the shit. LOL! BUT hey that's what you libTURDS do isn't it FILTH? YOU lie YOU TRY to blame others for your own FAILURES. libturds are simply FILTH. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. #51. To: lucysmom (#48) You bothered to google and post because you didn't care? Forgot already? I googled to see what kind of loser writes for Truth Out.
#52. To: socalv8 (#51) Forgot already? I googled to see what kind of loser writes for Truth Out. Me thinks thou dost protest too much. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly #53. To: lucysmom (#52)
That's like a cow telling a bear it moos too much.
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