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Title: A very secret agent
Source: A very secret agent
URL Source: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/MG27Dj02.html
Published: Jul 27, 2011
Author: Chris Cook
Post Date: 2011-07-28 10:16:46 by lucysmom
Keywords: Fiat Currency, Fed Created Tax Credit
Views: 48061
Comments: 80

There is a charade playing out in Washington at the moment in respect of the completely meaningless "debt ceiling" which the US maintains as a relic from the days of the gold standard.

We are told that at the US Treasury's account at the Federal Reserve Bank there will soon be no more taxpayers' dollars, and therefore the Fed will soon be unable to make any more payments or issue any more cheques on behalf of the Treasury. The money has run out.

This is nonsense. It is a myth, and moreover it is a myth that Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke exploded in his recent testimony to a US congressional committee.

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#1. To: lucysmom (#0)

The federal reserve is unconstitutional. Close it down, put the perps on trial and execute them for fleecing us. I'm saying they should be executed for treason.

Dammit where is Andrew Jackson when we need him.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-28   10:18:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

The federal reserve is unconstitutional.

Why did several of the Framers of the USCON help to create one?

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war  posted on  2011-07-28   10:22:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Badeye, A K A Stone, hondo68, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm, Capitalist Eric, Mininggold (#0)

The debt ceiling is a myth because there is no need to borrow to finance public expenditure and the creation of public assets. As Ron Paul points out, the Fed - which is ludicrously receiving interest from the Treasury in order to pay it right back again as profit - could actually waive or tear up the US$1.6 trillion Treasury debt it has bought through quantitative easing (QE), and it would make precisely no difference other than to reduce the National Debt at a stroke by that amount.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   10:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lucysmom (#3) (Edited)

Economics is religion and the Constitution is explicit on separation of religion and state....;}

http://Zerohedge.com

" Obviously after its default, America will need to issue a "fresh start" currency to go with its "fresh start" balance sheet and "non-fresh start" group of thugs robbing this country's middle class blind de novo.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-28   10:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#1)

The federal reserve is unconstitutional.

Perhaps you are getting the Articles of Confederation confused with the US Constitution?

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   10:30:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#5)

The Federal Reserve is Unconstitutional.

As is the 16th Amendment authorizing Income Tax.

W/o which the FedRes is toothless.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-28   10:33:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lucysmom (#5)

The articles of confederation. lol...you are really reaching.

Have you ever actually read the constitution.

It clearly gives congress the power to coin money. No power over our money to the federal reserve.

There have been no constitutional amendments so that power remains.

No they are not constitutionally allowed to convert to paper money and hand the task over to a private enterprise.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-28   10:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#7)

Have you ever actually read the constitution.

Yes. When I was a kid, we not only were required to read the Constitution, we had to pass a test on the Constitution to go on to high school.

It clearly gives congress the power to coin money. No power over our money to the federal reserve.

And the Federal Reserve is a creation of Congress.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   10:46:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

The Federal Reserve is Unconstitutional.

As is the 16th Amendment authorizing Income Tax.

An amendment can't be unconstitutional, because it's an amendment to the constitution. Agreed, it's a bad amendment but it's not unconstitutional.


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Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-28   10:49:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom (#8)

And the Federal Reserve is a creation of Congress.

Congress has a 2 year term.

They didn't ammend the constitution.

Congress still has the power to coin money and regulate the money thereof.

Passing the buck to a private enterprise is not authorized in the constitution.

Be honest with yourself and read the words as they are truly written. It is unconstitutional.

I'm still waiting on your reply on the other thread about how well you knew the man with the million dollar mortgate.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-28   10:49:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: lucysmom (#0)

We are told that at the US Treasury's account at the Federal Reserve Bank there will soon be no more taxpayers' dollars, and therefore the Fed will soon be unable to make any more payments or issue any more cheques on behalf of the Treasury. The money has run out.

This is nonsense. It is a myth, and moreover it is a myth that Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke exploded in his recent testimony to a US congressional committee.

So in your estimation, the coffers if US treasury are filled to the brim and Ben Bernake is a credible puppet?

Please clarify, Loo-Loo.

Thanks.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   10:55:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: war (#2)

The federal reserve is unconstitutional.

Why did several of the Framers of the USCON help to create one?

HUH??

I had NO frickin' idea the "Framers of the USCON" helped create the Federal Reserve.

When did this happen??

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   10:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Liberator (#12)

I had NO frickin' idea the "Framers of the USCON" helped create the Federal Reserve.

FRB is a Central Bank as was The First Bank of the United States which was chartered in 1791.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   10:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#10)

Be honest with yourself and read the words as they are truly written. It is unconstitutional.

Our founding fathers from the South agreed with you, however the bill creating the first Bank of the United States was passed and signed into law by George Washington, himself.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   11:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Liberator (#11)

Please clarify, Loo-Loo.

This is a different way of looking at money for me too.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   11:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lucysmom, a k a stone, war, mcgowanjm, no gnu taxes, skip intro, brian s (#0)

This is nonsense. It is a myth, and moreover it is a myth that Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke exploded in his recent testimony to a US congressional committee.

David Frum asked the other day "what are Republicans going to get out of this debt ceiling stand-off that they can't get in the appropriations process in the fall?" Nobody has a good answer. At this point even the Boehner plan makes almost no cuts to spending in 2012.

There was no need for this "crisis", the GOP could have passed a short-term debt ceiling extension earlier this year and fought the spending/budget cut battles in the fall - without damaging markets and investor confidence and without potentially sending the country into a severe recession.

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go65  posted on  2011-07-28   11:12:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: go65 (#16)

There was no need for this "crisis", the GOP could have passed a short-term debt ceiling extension earlier this year and fought the spending/budget cut battles in the fall - without damaging markets and investor confidence and without potentially sending the country into a severe recession.

Republicans are more interested in destroying Obama than they are in the welfare of the country.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   11:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#3)

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

The fact that you not only accept such nonsense as truth,but even think it is profound truth says a lot about you.

What next,"Engineering ain't about building a safe airplane,it's about the people who fly in the plane. If it gets off the ground."?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-28   11:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom (#15)

This is a different way of looking at money for me too.

That's encouraging.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lucysmom (#17)

Republicans are more interested in destroying Obama than they are in the welfare of the country.

So destroying the Destroyer who openly calls for the GOP to be shoved into the "back of the bus' is a bad thing?? Whose DoJ regards the majority of Americans as "terrorists"??

0bama NEVER compromises. He's arrogant. He cares not a single damn whit about the USA or capitalism or "America as we know it." He is a D-I-V-I-D-E-R.

Tell me Lucy (or any liberal here at LF) - just how hasn't 0bama helped crater and divide this country the very minute he hijacked the Oval Office??

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete, Lucysmom (#18)

Lucy: "Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being."

The fact that you not only accept such nonsense as truth,but even think it is profound truth says a lot about you.

What next,"Engineering ain't about building a safe airplane,it's about the people who fly in the plane. If it gets off the ground."?

Lol...That's good.

Lucy, Lucy...Your own checkbook - is THAT about you-the-person, OR the math? Call your bank - they'll clarify the matter for you.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#18)

What next,"Engineering ain't about building a safe airplane,it's about the people who fly in the plane. If it gets off the ground."?

Economics is one of the "soft" social sciences. It is by definition, about human behavior.

Engineering is a "hard" physical science. It is about stuff and how stuff works. Human beings can discover how stuff works and use that information to design lots of products that human beings use, but it isn't about human behavior.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   11:54:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

As is the 16th Amendment authorizing Income Tax.

Direct taxes must be Constitutionally apportioned to your State by the proportion of your State's representation (Art.1, Sect.2, Clause3 & Art1, Sect.9, Clause4). -- And, NO. The 16th amendment did not change this, the 16th amendment did not alter, add or remove any words from the original constitution, and the US Supreme Court confirmed in Stanton v. Baltic Mining Co. 240 US 103 (1915) that "… the 16th amendment conferred no new powers of taxation"

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-28   11:56:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator (#20)

Tell me Lucy (or any liberal here at LF) - just how hasn't 0bama helped crater and divide this country the very minute he hijacked the Oval Office??

Obama did not hijack the oval office, he was elected to that office by a majority of voting Americans in accordance with the rules set forth in the US Constitution.

The country was divided before most of us had ever heard of Obama.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   11:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#22)

Economics is one of the "soft" social sciences. It is by definition, about human behavior.

Engineering is a "hard" physical science. It is about stuff and how stuff works. Human beings can discover how stuff works and use that information to design lots of products that human beings use, but it isn't about human behavior.

Engineering is a concrete science, while economics is mainly abstract. Those who can only think concretely will try to redefine it concrete terms. And will generally be disappointed in the results.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-28   11:59:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Liberator (#21)

Lucy, Lucy...Your own checkbook - is THAT about you-the-person, OR the math?

The fact that I have a checkbook and engage in banking is not due to math, it is an activity totally dependent on my humanness.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   12:01:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mininggold (#25)

Those who can only think concretely will try to redefine it concrete terms. And will generally be disappointed in the results.

It's why engineers are not generally known for their social skills.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   12:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

As is the 16th Amendment authorizing Income Tax.

W/o which the FedRes is toothless.

The income tax didn't need the 16th amendment to be Constitutional, and the Fed doesn't need the income tax.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   12:07:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lucysmom (#24)

Obama did not hijack the oval office...

Ok. He infested it.

He was elected to that office by a majority of voting Americans in accordance with the rules set forth in the US Constitution.

Can you kindly point out the Amendment where it's stated that DEAD PEOPLE, Disney characters, and multiple votes are constitutional?

The country was divided before most of us had ever heard of Obama.

I agree. I don't think the USA is or can be one "nation" any longer.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   12:19:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: lucysmom (#26)

The fact that I have a checkbook and engage in banking is not due to math, it is an activity totally dependent on my humanness.

Banking is "math." HELLO.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   12:20:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Liberator (#30)

Banking is "math." HELLO.

Keeping track of how much money I have in my account is math; that I have an account, where I have it, how I spend the assets in my account, etc. is purely human.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   12:49:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: lucysmom (#22) (Edited)

It is by definition, about human behavior.

No,it is about numbers.

If it were about human behavior,it would be called sociology.

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sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-28   14:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: sneakypete (#32)

If it were about human behavior,it would be called sociology.

Economics is a social science.

Definition of ECONOMICS

a: a social science concerned chiefly with description and analysis of the production, distribution, and consumption of goods and services

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   15:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: lucysmom (#27)

It's why engineers are not generally known for their social skills.

Is that why nobody likes me except my dog?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-28   15:25:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Fred Mertz (#34)

Is that why nobody likes me except my dog?

Now, now, Fred - people DO like you.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   15:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: lucysmom, Fred Mertz (#35)

Now, now, Fred - people DO like you.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-28   15:52:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: lucysmom (#22)

Economics is one of the "soft" social sciences. It is by definition, about human behavior.

Yeah, I used to say similar things, too... about 20 years ago, before I started to get more educated on the subject.

Economics IS about the accurate modeling of human behavior.

If you have two products that are priced the same, where one has a higher level of (perceived) quality or utility over the other, than people will pick the one with the higher perceived value.

While the field of economics cannot accurately determine the behavior of a single individual, it is extremely useful is predicting aggregate human behavior. Depending on the model used, the accuracy can be quite amazing.

In this way, it is a science- as repeatable and useful as one of the "hard" sciences, like mechanical or electronic engineering.

And I guarantee you- the field of economics is involved in your life every single day... when you buy a loaf of bread, when you put gas in your car, when you shop on amazon.com or craigslist.org, when you sell your used books at the local bookstore, or when you're sitting on your couch watching TV or listening to the radio... It's all around you, EVERY day...

You seem to have this naive belief that economic theory doesn't matter or affect you. And that belief is utterly false.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-28   16:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Capitalist Eric (#37)

You seem to have this naive belief that economic theory doesn't matter or affect you. And that belief is utterly false.

Really? How many years of study did it take you to grasp that little factoid?

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   18:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: lucysmom (#38)

Really? How many years of study did it take you to grasp that little factoid?

I've ALWAYS known that.

You're a simpleton who preaches against the LAWS of economics, and instead demand that the STATE give you yours, regardless of who they have to steal it from.

YOU encourage thievery and extortion, 'cause "I want MINE..."

You don't give a SHIT about anybody but yourself...

And you're not WORTH a shit, because of THAT "little factoid."

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-28   19:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Capitalist Eric (#39)

You don't give a SHIT about anybody but yourself...

And you're not WORTH a shit, because of THAT "little factoid."

If that's the way you see me then that's what's true for you.

It is a pity - you claim to have so much and yet are so angry.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-28   20:23:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lucysmom (#33)

a: a social science concerned chiefly with description and analysis of the production, distribution, and consumption of goods and services

You must be promoting slavery.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-28   20:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: lucysmom (#28)

The income tax didn't need the 16th amendment to be Constitutional, and the Fed doesn't need the income tax.

O Yes it does....for Both.

And the Standing Army needs Both for war....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-29   8:24:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Capitalist Eric (#23)

Boehner Humiliated.

Mask Ripped.

Capitalism morphs to Kleptocracy. Then Plutarchy.

Empire or Democracy.

You chose Empire. Too bad.

Game Over.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-29   8:25:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: mcgowanjm (#42)

O Yes it does....for Both.

Tax on income derived from labor was clearly an indirect tax (within the meaning of the Constitution) and never an issue. The 16th amendment settled the Constitutionality of a federal tax on income derived from property.

By Fed are you referring the the federal government of the Federal Reserve?

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-29   10:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: lucysmom (#44)

tax on income derived from labor was clearly an indirect tax (within the meaning of the Constitution)

Sounds like something the SCOTUS would come up with.

Like the 14th Slave Amendment's Only use was in making Persons out of Corporations.

Just for shits&giggles, let's see what tax on income derived from labor 16th Amendment Google pulls up:

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-29   10:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: lucysmom, All (#45)

And Thank You.

Right out of the box:

Sixteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia ... en.wikipedia.org/.../Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_... - CachedSimilar This amendment exempted income taxes from the constitutional requirements .... declared that income may be defined as gain derived from capital, from labor, ...

Again:

exempted income taxes from the constitutional requirements

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-29   10:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: lucysmom (#44)

Tax on income derived from labor was clearly an indirect tax (within the meaning of the Constitution)

So the 16th Amendment, illegally, took out the Constitution.

Which is why the Amendment was needed in the first place.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-29   10:53:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: lucysmom (#44) (Edited)

Tax on income derived from labor was clearly an indirect tax (within the meaning of the Constitution) and never an issue. The 16th amendment settled the Constitutionality of a federal tax on income derived from property.

I'm not sure what dicta or law you may be referring to but it was held as early as Pollock that a federal tax that was made directly on an individual's money "made", which included the wages of both labor and speculation, and that was levied solely as a % rather than as a head count apportionment was held as a direct tax.

In other words, the only way that the Central government could levy a tax on income would be to determine how much is needed, divide it by the population, and then levy that same dollar amount on EvERYONE. This made it virtually inpossible to institute an income tax system - which was their intent.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-29   10:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: All (#47)

The Real Story About the Federal Reserve, Income Tax, WWI, WWII ... silencednomore.com/real-s...deral-reserve-income-tax/ - Cached Feb 25, 2011 – Did you know that the Federal Reserve is Illegal? So is Income Tax. Did you know that the bankers that run the Fed wanted us to be in WWI, ...

Why An Income Tax is NOT Necessary to Fund the U.S. Government www.devvy.com/notax.html - CachedSimilar We know that 100% of all personal "income" taxes extorted by the IRS goes to the "Federal" Reserve Banking System and does not fund a single function of the ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-29   10:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: war (#48)

This made it virtually inpossible to institute an income tax system - which was their intent.

And thank you.

Is it coincidence that the personal income tax and the federal reserve bank was created in the same year -1913 Tthe Sixteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution was ratified (illegally) on February 3, 1913.

The Federal Reserve System, created in 1913, is a private banking system of the United States.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-29   10:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: All (#50)

And the following neatly ties in the thread:

"Keep in mind that the US Constitution explicitly forbade a standing Army in Article 1, Section 8, where it enumerates the Powers of Congress:

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

The outline here is clear – our National Guard serves the Militia role today, and we can mobilize them as needed (for up to two years). Keep in mind that during the Bush Administration, the wars in Afghanistan were fought by as many National Guard as active duty troops. If the Bush argument was that any foreign war is essentially an exercise in homeland defense, this only further underscores the argument that a standing Army is unnecessary....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-29   11:01:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: war (#48)

I'm not sure what dicta or law you may be referring to but it was held as early as Pollock that a federal tax that was made directly on an individual's money "made", which included the wages of both labor and speculation, and that was levied solely as a % rather than as a head count apportionment was held as a direct tax.

From Wikipedia:

Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Company, 157 U.S. 429 (1895), aff'd on reh'g, 158 U.S. 601 (1895), with a ruling of 5–4, was a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that the unapportioned income taxes on interest, dividends and rents imposed by the Income Tax Act of 1894 were, in effect, direct taxes, and were unconstitutional because they violated the provision that direct taxes be apportioned.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-29   11:23:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: mcgowanjm (#43)

Boehner Humiliated.

Mask Ripped.

Capitalism morphs to Kleptocracy. Then Plutarchy.

Empire or Democracy.

True up to this point.

You chose Empire.

NOT.

I fall into the "Libertarian" view of things... kinda' like the "Dead White Guys" who wrote our constitution, and philosophers like John Locke...

I don't fall into the typical "L vs. R" false dichotomy.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-29   13:39:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: sneakypete, lucysmom (#41)

You must be promoting slavery.

That's EXACTLY what she is doing. She's a slave... to the state. She worships them, and depends on the crumbs that fall down to her (admittedly low) level, to sustain her.

Ironic, that she fights and argues in defense of her masters, and boldly wears her chains and shackles...

MORPHEUS The Matrix is everywhere, it's all around us, here even in this room. You can see it out your window, or on your television. You feel it when you go to work, or go to church or pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

NEO What truth?

MORPHEUS That you are a slave, Neo. That you, like everyone else, was born into bondage... ... kept inside a prison that you cannot smell, taste, or touch. A prison for your mind.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-29   13:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Capitalist Eric (#54)

That's EXACTLY what she is doing. She's a slave... to the state. She worships them, and depends on the crumbs that fall down to her (admittedly low) level, to sustain her.

The only ones promoting slavery in the US are your fellow capitalists trying to get the best return on their investment.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-29   13:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: mininggold a k a stone, jwpegler, hondo68, sneakypete (#55)

The only ones promoting slavery in the US are your fellow capitalists trying to get the best return on their investment.

Liar.

You and I share a very special relationship: you're the parasite, and I'm the host.

I want a divorce.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-29   14:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Capitalist Eric (#56) (Edited)

You and I share a very special relationship: you're the parasite, and I'm the host.

You sound awfully grandiose to me. I can see why you want to treat everyone here like they're your slave.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-29   14:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: mininggold (#57)

I can see why you want to treat everyone here like they're your slave.

You've got that exaclty backwards, as is typical for you black-is-white- and-white-is-black SOCIALISTS...

You expect me to voluntarily give up MY money (and if not, than you'll be happy to have the government take it from me by threat of prison or death) to support YOUR fat ass...

Get real.

You live off the government tit. And the government gets the money that it hands you... from MY wallet.

Quite literally, you would prefer MY children starve, so YOU can eat without working for it.

You sound awfully grandiose to me.

That sounds "grandiose?" You're a fat, stupid bitch, who is so utterly selfish, so devoid of any sense of responsibility, so shameless as to promote the theft of the fruits of MY labor, so that you can sit on your ass, DOING nothing, EARNING nothing, and DESERVING nothing.

YOU ARE A PARASITE.

Can I be any clearer, on where YOU are, in society?

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-29   15:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Capitalist Eric (#58)

and if not, than [sic] you'll be happy

Alrighty then...

[snicker]

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-29   15:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Capitalist Eric (#54)

MORPHEUS That you are a slave, Neo. That you, like everyone else, was born into bondage... ... kept inside a prison that you cannot smell, taste, or touch. A prison for your mind.

"A man is not free unless his will is free; and if his will is free, it doesn't matter that his body is bound."

Your mind is enslaved Eric, that's why you're so angry.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-29   16:58:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Capitalist Eric (#56)

Liar.

You and I share a very special relationship: you're the parasite, and I'm the host.

I want a divorce.

Here this might help with those little bloodsuckers......

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-29   17:12:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: lucysmom (#60)

Your mind is enslaved Eric, that's why you're so angry.

It was.

That changed in 1994, when I was able to see first-hand how much the MSM and nanny-state lie.

The contrast between the truth and what the people of the Western world are told, is startling.

Which leads to your second point- whether I'm angry?

Of course I'm angry... Because the lies have become so outrageous, so in-your-face, so obvious, that one wonders how sheeple like you can remain so blissfully ignorant, so happy to stay a slave?

You SIT there........ and you watch your CNN, you get spoon-fed your daily dose of pap by the talking-heads on TV, and you think you've got a good understanding of what's going on in the world... You move on to your reality- show entertainment, "Dancing with the Stars," or "Survivor," or "General Hospital," whatever bread-and-circuses entertainment satisfies your need for mindless entertainment... and you then have the GALL to tell me- or anyone else, for that matter- that we're "enslaved?"

Chayefsky summed it up this way:

"When the twelfth largest company in the world controls the most awesome goddamned propaganda force in the whole godless world, who knows what shit will be peddled for truth on this tube?

So, listen to me!

Television is not the truth!

Television is a goddamned amusement park, that's what television is! Television is a circus, a carnival, a traveling troupe of acrobats and storytellers, singers and dancers, jugglers, sideshow freaks, liontamers and football players. We're in the boredom-killing business!

If you want truth, go to God, go to your guru, go to yourself because that's the only place you'll ever find any real truth!

But, man, you're never going to get any truth from us. We'll tell you anything you want to hear.

We lie like hell! We'll tell you Kojack always gets the killer, and nobody ever gets cancer in Archie Bunker's house. And no matter how much trouble the hero is in, don't worry: just look at your watch -- at the end of the hour, he's going to win.

We'll tell you any shit you want to hear! We deal in illusion, man! None of it's true!

But you people sit there all of you day after day, night after night, all ages, colors, creeds we're all you know.

You're beginning to believe this illusion we're spinning here.

You're beginning to think the tube is reality and your own lives are unreal.

You do whatever the tube tells you.

You dress like the tube, you eat like the tube, you raise your children like the tube, you think like the tube.

This is mass madness, you maniacs!

In God's name, you people are the real thing! We're the illusions! ."

-- Chayefsky, Network, 1976

You're a sheep. A mindless member of the herd, who takes what she can, and gives nothing in return.

May the future bring to you EVERYTHING what you deserve.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-29   17:26:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Capitalist Eric (#62)

the lies have become so outrageous, so in-your-face, so obvious...

and coordinated.

Virtually every leftist in the Democrat Party and their sycophants in the media have gone on television in the last 24 hours to complain that the Tea Pary is holding the country "hostage".

It's a propaganda campaign.

It's Joseph Goebbels.

Seriously. I wonder when they are going to come round us up and gas us.


To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. — Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-29   17:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Capitalist Eric (#56)

I want a divorce.

A whole bunch of people want to rid themselves of their parasites. They use to be timid. Now they are vocal.

The left is scared to death, which is why their propaganda has turned loony tunes.

"The Democrats are trying to save life on this planet’ from GOP Budget" -- Nancy Pelosi.

They're creepy and they're kooky,
Mysterious and spooky,
They're all together ooky,
The Democrat Pary.


To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. — Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-29   18:50:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Capitalist Eric (#53) (Edited)

I don't fall into the typical "L vs. R" false dichotomy.

Me neither...;}

www.theburningplatform.com/?p=19304

"The mainstream media acts as if not raising the debt ceiling by next Tuesday will result in America defaulting. This is a crock. America chose to proceed on a path to default decades ago. We are just finally reaching our destination. Below are the choices we made as a people and a country to default on our obligations and eventually destroy our country:"

Which is why we were so upset with Reagan.

His Election and then Poppy coming in 3 months later after Reagan shot is the moment the USSA defaulted.

Choosing Empire. Disenfranchising the Middle Class."

" *

As you can see, next Tuesday means nothing. The debt ceiling means nothing."

We defaulted 30 years ago. The Ponzi's over now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-29   22:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Capitalist Eric (#62)

Of course I'm angry... Because the lies have become so outrageous, so in-your-face, so obvious, that one wonders how sheeple like you can remain so blissfully ignorant, so happy to stay a slave?

So then you're going to be angry until the world remakes itself in your image?

You SIT there........ and you watch your CNN, you get spoon-fed your daily dose of pap by the talking-heads on TV, and you think you've got a good understanding of what's going on in the world... You move on to your reality- show entertainment, "Dancing with the Stars," or "Survivor," or "General Hospital," whatever bread-and-circuses entertainment satisfies your need for mindless entertainment... and you then have the GALL to tell me- or anyone else, for that matter- that we're "enslaved?"

Again, you project. Your little story is yours, it has nothing to do with me or my life.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-29   23:03:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: lucysmom (#66) (Edited)

Capitalist Eric: Of course I'm angry... Because the lies have become so outrageous, so in-your-face, so obvious, that one wonders how sheeple like you can remain so blissfully ignorant, so happy to stay a slave?

Stupid bitch: So then you're going to be angry until the world remakes itself in your image?

Nice attempt to avoid the point. But avoiding reality is what you do best.

ME: You SIT there........ and you watch your CNN, you get spoon- fed your daily dose of pap by the talking-heads on TV, and you think you've got a good understanding of what's going on in the world... You move on to your reality- show entertainment, "Dancing with the Stars," or "Survivor," or "General Hospital," whatever bread-and-circuses entertainment satisfies your need for mindless entertainment... and you then have the GALL to tell me- or anyone else, for that matter- that we're "enslaved?"

Again, you project. Your little story is yours, it has nothing to do with me or my life.

It has EVERYTHING to do with your life, all pathetic protestations aside.

You earlier posted a quote, that said "A man is not free unless his will is free; and if his will is free, it doesn't matter that his body is bound."

My response is quite simple, and describes you to a "T."

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe --

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-01   11:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Capitalist Eric (#67)

It has EVERYTHING to do with your life, all pathetic protestations aside.

From a poster who believes buying and selling women is normal. Some of you Aspergers are just too funny and clueless. LOLOLOLOL

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-01   11:57:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: mininggold, A K A Stone (#68)

From a poster who believes buying and selling women is normal.

Please post the link DIRECTLY to where I ever said that, or even implied that.

You want to make such false accusations? Then BACK THEM UP, or shut the FUCK up.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-01   12:21:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Capitalist Eric (#62)

That changed in 1994, when I was able to see first-hand how much the MSM and nanny-state lie.

The contrast between the truth and what the people of the Western world are told, is startling.

You are like a teenager who thinks he's discovered sex and thinks his experience is unique.

What you discovered in 1994, I discovered in the early 70s and countless others discovered before and after me.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-01   12:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Capitalist Eric (#69)

Please post the link DIRECTLY to where I ever said that, or even implied that.

You want to make such false accusations? Then BACK THEM UP, or shut the FUCK up.

Your own admitted 'married' life is the manual Aspy.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-01   12:30:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Capitalist Eric (#67)

My response is quite simple, and describes you to a "T."

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe --

Your response or Goethe's?

Gandhi was more free in prison than you are on the outside.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-01   12:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: lucysmom (#70)

What you discovered in 1994, I discovered in the early 70s and countless others discovered before and after me.

Yet you choose to remain willfully ignorant.

And thus, you CHOOSE to remain a slave.

You are contemptible.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-01   13:00:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: mininggold (#71)

Please post the link DIRECTLY to where I ever said that, or even implied that.

You want to make such false accusations? Then BACK THEM UP, or shut the FUCK up.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-01   13:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Capitalist Eric (#73)

Yet you choose to remain willfully ignorant.

And thus, you CHOOSE to remain a slave.

Who died and made YOU god?

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-01   13:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Capitalist Eric (#74)

Please post the link DIRECTLY to where I ever said that, or even implied that. You want to make such false accusations? Then BACK THEM UP, or shut the FUCK up.

Stop with the Aspergers and grow up.

As soon as you provide links supporting all your smears against me.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-01   13:20:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Capitalist Eric (#74)

You want to make such false accusations? Then BACK THEM UP, or shut the FUCK up.

Oh good grief! Take a look in the mirror.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-01   13:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: mininggold (#76)

Please post the link DIRECTLY to where I ever said that, or even implied that. You want to make such false accusations? Then BACK THEM UP, or shut the FUCK up.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-01   16:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Capitalist Eric (#78)

Stop with the Aspergers and grow up.

As soon as you provide links supporting all your smears against me.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-01   23:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: mininggold (#79)

ME: Please post the link DIRECTLY to where I ever said that, or even implied that. You want to make such false accusations? Then BACK THEM UP, or shut the FUCK up.

STUPID BITCH: Stop with the Aspergers and grow up. As soon as you provide links supporting all your smears against me.

Translation: You can't provide links to your claims, so you'll try to divert to something else.

As usual, you're caught in your own lies. But, beign a good little socialist, you'll NEVER 'fess up. Instead, you try to attack, to hide your failures.

You're a loser, and a parasite. The world will be just a little bit better... when you're worm-food.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-02   11:18:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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