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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

What an asshole.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-21   19:54:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Capitalist Eric (#1)

What an asshole.

Undoubtedly.

I just watched 1984 on netflix a couple of days ago.

Watched it with my neighbor. He had never seen it before.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-21   20:02:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone, Capitalist Eric (#2)

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos:

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY.

I just watched 1984

Orwell was a SOCIALIST till the day he died. You fucking morons.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-22   8:57:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Godwinson (#3)

Orwell was a SOCIALIST

That's an oversimplification.

Orwell didn't have a problem with "socialism" per se. His issue was with authoritarian governments.

The only problem is that socialist systems turn into authoritarian governments in order to pry money from the producers to give to the moochers.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-07-22   9:31:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: no gnu taxes (#4)

Orwell didn't have a problem with "socialism" per se.

He was an active member of the Socialist party, nimrod.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-22   10:21:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Godwinson (#5)

He was an active member of the Socialist party

Not for any reasons a birdbrain like you can fathom.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-07-22   10:43:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: no gnu taxes (#6) (Edited)

He was an active member of the Socialist party

Not for any reasons a birdbrain like you can fathom.

Orwell very clearly states he is a Socialist because he has seen how bad capitalism is, nimrod.

It is not possible for any thinking person to live in such a society as our own without wanting to change it. For perhaps ten years past I have had some grasp of the real nature of capitalist society. In so far as I have struggle against the system, it has been mainly by writing books which I hoped would influence the reading public. One has got to be actively a Socialist, not merely sympathetic to Socialism, or one plays into the hands of our always-active enemies. George Orwell.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-22   10:48:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Godwinson (#7)

The only examples he ever saw were very limited ones in Britain and British colonies.

Give the exact, specific type of socialism that Orwell PERSONALLY espoused.

Tell me why his personal beliefs would without a doubt have approved of the welfare system in the US.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-07-22   11:01:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: no gnu taxes (#8) (Edited)

Give the exact, specific type of socialism that Orwell PERSONALLY espoused.

You Republican kook right wingers are such know-nothings. Here is Orwell in his own words:

It pays to actually read Orwell for oneself: "I am well aware that it is now the fashion to deny that Socialism has anything to do with equality. In every country in the world a huge tribe of party-hacks and sleek little professors are busy 'proving' that Socialism means no more than a planned state-capitalism with the grab-motive left intact. But fortunately there also exists a vision of Socialism quite different from this. The thing that attracts ordinary men to Socialism and makes them willing to risk their skins for it, the 'mystique' of Socialism, is the idea of equality; to the vast majority of people Socialism means a classless society, or it means nothing at all. And it was here that those few months in the militia were valuable to me. For the Spanish militias, while they lasted, were a sort of microcosm of a classless society. In that community where no one was on the make, where there was a shortage of everything but no privilege and no boot-licking, one got, perhaps, a crude forecast of what the opening stages of Socialism might be like. And, after all, instead of disillusioning me it deeply attracted me. The effect was to make my desire to see Socialism established much *more* actual than it had been before."

From chapter 8 of "Homage to Catalonia" (1938). It is from this book (really a memoir) that one gets perhaps the fullest picture of what attracted Orwell to socialism.

"One of Orwell's very best books and perhaps the best book that exists on the Spanish Civil War." - The New Yorker

Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-22   11:11:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Godwinson (#9)

Orwell had a very simplistic vision of socialism and had no means of integrating it into a vast multicultural society such as ours where it is an abject failure. I damn sure aint giving up what I've got to a maggot like you. Only an authoritarian governement could make me do it. A classless society is not possible in a society where so many people don't know and and maybe don't like each other.

Orwell's chief motivation and wisdom was always being opposed to authoritarianism. His support of socialism was just an off shoot of that, and his vision was limited and naive.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-07-22   11:28:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: no gnu taxes (#10)

Capitalism = rule of the few over the many.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-22   11:33:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Godwinson (#12)

Capitalism = rule of the few over the many.

Spoken like an avowed Marxist.

Which truly and ironically has always been the true rule of the few over the many.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-07-22   11:40:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#14. To: no gnu taxes (#13)

Capitalism = rule of the few over the many.

Spoken like an avowed Marxist.

More like I spoke like George Orwell who agreed with this position and fought for it in print and with a gun.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-22 11:50:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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