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Opinions/Editorials Title: Bachmann, Palin should just admit gaffes, then move on It’s the scramble-back that makes you look insecure, stubborn and not all that bright. Does it really matter that Michele Bachmann got her John Waynes mixed up and said she shared a hometown with John Wayne when in fact it was John Wayne Gacy? “John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa. That’s the kind of spirit that I have, too.” In fact, it was John Wayne Gacy who lived in Waterloo, whereas John Wayne, the actor, was born about 150 miles away, in the Iowa town of Winterset. Not a sane person in the world jumped on the gaffe to say, “Oh my God, she’s trying to align herself with the Killer Clown!” But the mainstream-lamestream media pounced on the gaffe with unbridled glee, just as they did when Sarah Palin couldn’t name the periodicals she consumed. The day after Bachmann’s verbal misstep, she appeared on CNN and said, “People can make mistakes and I wish I could be perfect every time I say something, but I can’t.” Not a bad way to deflect the minor distraction. But Bachmann didn’t stop there. She opted for the scramble-back defense, in which the candidate and the candidate’s team scramble back, huddle up and scour the Internet for research that kinda-sorta backs up an erroneous claim. “John Wayne’s parents’ first home was in Waterloo, Iowa, and he was from Iowa,” said Bachmann. Um, OK. This is the same sort of scramble-back tactic employed by Sarah Palin after Palin said Paul Revere “warned the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms by ringing those bells and making sure he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed.” Of course, Palin meant Revere warned the American colonists, not the British — and the rest of those ad-libbed comments hardly consist of rock-solid history — but it’s not the blunder of all time. It’s not as if Palin had said Paul Revere “not only warned the British but was a member of the greatest rock and roll band of the Sixties, Paul Revere and the Raiders.” But instead of correcting the record, Palin scrambled back and came out sounding as if she’d just emerged from an all-night study session with a high school history teacher. “I didn’t mess up about Paul Revere,” she said. “Here’s what Paul Revere did. He warned the Americans that the British were coming. Part of his ride was to warn the British that were there that ‘hey, you’re not gonna succeed.’ ” Countered James Cross Giblin, author of The Many Rides of Paul Revere, in an interview on ABC News: “She was basically wrong. . . . His mission certainly was not to warn the British. It was to get the message to the revolutionaries in Concord.” Asked if Palin did not get the basic facts right, Giblin replied, “No she did not.” Some Palin fans even tried to revise history on Wikipedia. Better to alter the facts than to admit our gal is wrong! Now that’s a real scramble-back. A founding youngster? When ABC’s George Stephanopoulos challenged Michele Bachmann’s claim that the Founding Fathers “worked tirelessly to end slavery” and noted that “Jefferson and Washington were slaveholders and slavery didn’t end until the Civil War,” Bachmann countered that John Quincy Adams “tirelessly worked throughout his life to make sure we did in fact one day eradicate slavery.” Not a good scramble-back, considering John Quincy Adams wasn’t one of the Founding Fathers and was all of 9 years old when the Revolutionary War began. When Barack Obama made his infamous “57 states” gaffe in 2008, he owned up and made fun of himself later the very same day, noting, “I understand I said there were 57 states today. It’s a sign that my numeracy is getting a little, um . . . ” It was better for Obama to just admit the mistake than to scramble back and say, “Look, there ARE 57 states. We have the 50 states, plus we’re in a state of confusion, a state of anguish, a state of concern, a state of uncertainty, a state of economic crisis — but also a state of hope and a state of change, and I state right now I’m gonna bring that hope and change to America!” Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest When Barack Obama made his infamous “57 states” gaffe in 2008, he owned up and made fun of himself later the very same day, noting, “I understand I said there were 57 states today. It’s a sign that my numeracy is getting a little, um . . . ” That's how you handle it. "Thats because your basically and idiot." #2. To: go65 (#1) He's a dumbass. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …â€. Can I get an ‘amen’?? #3. To: go65 (#0) CAT FIGHT!!! Can you imagine if Palin and Bachmann collaborated on a book of US history? America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #4. To: go65 (#1) So has the idiot apologized for all these dumbass moments, too? “The Bomb” that fell on Pearl Harbor “The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries.” 10,000 People (A Whole Town!) Died in Kansas ~ Oops, Overstated by 9,988 Admits His Plan would Necessarily Cause Energy Prices to Skyrocket Air Raiding Villages a la Yankee Air Pirates: Destroys Whole Afghan Villages! ATMs Cause Unemployment Blames Hugo Chavez’s Election on (ta da) BUSH! Oops. Blows off the Salute To Heroes (MOH) Inaugural Ball Botched Toast ~ Babbles over “God Save The Queen” Bowls like a Special Olympian Bows to the Chicom President Bows to the Emperor of Japan Bows to the Saudi King Burns up 9,000 gallons of Jet Fuel on Earth Day Can’t Keep MOH Recipients Straight Confuses “his” Christianity for “his Muslim faith” Cops Acted Stupidly (@ 1:30) Date Nights at a Quarter of a Million a Pop Did He REALLY just call Palin a "Pig"?????? Disrespects the Flag and the National Anthem Doesn't Know How Old His Daughter Is Exaggerates about Military Small Unit Methods, Weapons, and Tactics in Afghanistan Expects to be President for “Eight to Ten Years” Faux White Sox Fan Can't Name Favorite Players, Loves "Cominskey" Park Flippantly Answers the "When Does Life Begin" Question ~ Above His Pay Grade Forgot to Duck ~ Too Busy Waving Gins up the Reason for his Birth In Selma (Bonus…Jive Accent) Gives the Queen an iPod Gives Thoughtless Gifts to Brit PM Brown and his Children Had an Imaginary Assignment to the Senate Banking Committee Had an Uncle who Liberated Auschwitz Has Visited 57 States Harvard Degree ~ Mechanical Engineering? No, Definitely NOT! Hates Old People Identifies a Whole New State (Eau Claire) If I Can't Dazzle Them With Brilliance, I'll Baffle 'em With BS Inhaled Frequently. That was the Point. Israel is a Strong Friend of Israel’s ~ Whilst being Perfectly Clear Makes a Nasty Joke about Nancy Reagan and Seances Medical Genius (Off Prompter) Mistakes a Window for a Door Mocks Joe the Plumber Navy Corpse Man Oaf of Office Ogles La Derriere Like a Frenchman Oh Wait…Robots Create Jobs with Unions (@ 1:35) Pitches Like a Girl Whilst Wearing Mom Jeans....Wheeeee!!!!! Refused to Visit the Troops Because No Media Was Allowed Scares the Crap out of New Yorkers Scares a Marine Guard by Shaking His Hand Screw Our Allies ~ I'm going with Hugo and Ortega on This One Seeks Greater Inefficiencies in the Health Care System via Obamacare Sees Dead People Signs the Wrong Year in Guest Book at Westminster Abbey Snubs Brits by Returning the Bust of Winston Churchill Someone Waging a KMA can’t Spell “Libya” (h/t our own Warner Todd Houston) Staff Incompetence ~ Obama’s Limo Gets Stuck Thinks “Victory” is a 4 Letter Word Thinks Austrian is a Language Throws Out the Honored Guest with the Trash We are the Ones We've Been Waiting For When in Ireland, Do as the Irish Do....NO WAIT....BYOB (non-alcoholic) Will Halt The Rise of the Oceans Wouldn't "Punish" His Daughters with a Baby AND Equates Pregnancy to an STD You Might be a Filthy Rich Cretin If....Oh Never Mind, the Math Doesn't Really Work And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. A partial list of The Stupidity That is Obama. http://newsbusters.org/forum/topic-discussion/handy-reference-guide-obama039s-gaffes-and-goofs Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …â€. Can I get an ‘amen’?? #5. To: no gnu taxes (#4) I don't see any need for him to apologize for the spin of others, but when he does make an actual mistake, he is quick to admit it and apologize for it; unlike Palin & Bachmann. "Thats because your basically and idiot." #6. To: go65 (#5) I don't see any need for him to apologize for the spin of others, but when he does make an actual mistake, he is quick to admit it and apologize for it; unlike Palin & Bachmann. Carlin: There's a Big Club and you're not in it. BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D I KNEW Strauss Kahn wouldn't go to jail. Die maybe. Not Jail. Cause the ELITE don't go to jail. The ELite Fail-WAY TO GO BROWNIE--and move up to their nect assignment. IN WWI Imperial Russia made the serfs get off the train and march the Final 25 miles to the Front. To get them into shape. 9-11 and 7/7 were False Flags to make you serfs understand your place... Now GET BACK TO WORK.... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D
#7. To: mcgowanjm (#6) I KNEW Strauss Kahn wouldn't go to jail. Die maybe. Not Jail. I just saw some news coverage about him. Implying the maid might be 'dirty'.
#8. To: mcgowanjm (#6) I KNEW Strauss Kahn wouldn't go to jail. Cause the ELITE don't go to jail. He DID go to jail. He spent a week at Rikers Island. I'm pretty sure they don't cater French rapists there either.
#9. To: Fred Mertz (#7) I just saw some news coverage about him. Implying the maid might be 'dirty'. Again, the maid's account of what happened has never waivered. Just how did DSK's semen get on the maid.
#10. To: Thunderbird (#8) He DID go to jail. He spent a week at Rikers Island. I'm pretty sure they don't cater French rapists there either. A drunk tank sentence. Isolated. What. For a week? I guess that's major for the Top 50 000. Time served? And what about DSK's sordid Room Service history. Sounds like the President of Israel antics. But that's not admissible. The Maid's life away from the hotel is? Her account of how DSK's sperm got on her is the story. There's a Big Club. And you and I aren't in it. If this stands then future Hotel Maid Responses to rape should be: 1) Don't let the rapist get out of the room alive. 2) Maid's should be issued pepper spray. ;}
#11. To: mcgowanjm (#10) Considering that the "maid" is a part-time hooker and a pathological liar, a week in Rikers seems...excessive.
#12. To: war, go65 (#3) Can you imagine if Palin and Bachmann collaborated on a book of US history? Here is a cutie for ya.... tell me if you remember where it came from:
"Now, children, I want you all to sit up just as straight and pretty as you can and give me all your attention for a minute or two. There -- that is it. That is the way good little boys and girls should do. I see one little girl who is looking out of the window -- I am afraid she thinks I am out there somewhere -- perhaps up in one of the trees making a speech to the little birds. [Applausive titter.] I want to tell you how good it makes me feel to see so many bright, clean little faces assembled in a place like this, learning to do right and be good." And so forth and so on. It is not necessary to set down the rest of the oration. It was of a pattern which does not vary, and so it is familiar to us all.
#13. To: buckeroo (#12) Ha...great stuff... America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... #14. To: Thunderbird (#11) (Edited) Considering that the "maid" is a part-time hooker and a pathological liar, a week in Rikers seems...excessive. Again, and more so now that you;ve come forward with that 'explanation': Is it possible to rape a prostitute? " 2. Frankly, the clumsiness of the collapse of the victim/witness points clearly to a DP* rather than the TOAOF. If it was a TOAOF* set-up, the witness would have been instructed to avoid questionable phone calls with iffy people, and in particular to avoid discussing the inevitable civil suit (btw, are women with questionable friends unrape-able? in the ultra-litigious USA, is discussing the inevitable civil suit grounds for impugning the entire testimony?). On the other hand, this kind of behavior is what you would expect from somebody with an interest in having the Strauss-Kahn case thrown out. The alleged inconsistencies in the victim's statements seem explainable, and largely irrelevant, and are thrown in just to further weaken her credibility.
Remember that Strauss-Kahn phoned his lawyer, and then presumably on legal advice made a bee-line for the airport to flee the jurisdiction, and would have escaped had he not phoned back to the hotel for his cell phone, thus identifying his location to the authorities. * 1. the Theory of All of France (TOAOF), that the whole thing was a set-up intended to remove Strauss-Kahn from leading the IMF at such a delicate time, and preventing him from taking over from Sarko in the French elections; or 2. the Dershowitz Protocol (DP), paying off the overseas family of the victim so she would find a way to impugn her own evidence. There's a Big Club, about 50 000, and you and I aren't in it. 8D
#15. To: Thunderbird, All (#11) a part-time hooker and a pathological liar, a week in Rikers seems...excessive. And further, now you're assured that the Maid IS a prostitute and that she's a "Pathological" liar. So Only Truth telling Saints, preferrably millionaires, should ever apply for redress of grievances in the good ole' USA. Double Standards R US.
#16. To: mcgowanjm (#15) And billionaires...
#17. To: Fred Mertz (#16) ;}
#18. To: Thunderbird (#11) Considering that the "maid" is a part-time hooker and a pathological liar, a week in Rikers seems...excessive. I would hope a manager of so much money would show a little more prudent behavior then just jumping in bed with whoever's convenient.
#19. To: mcgowanjm (#15) So Only Truth telling Saints, preferrably millionaires, should ever apply for redress of grievances in the good ole' USA. The veracity of Strauss-Kahn isn't at issue here, its his accuser who was lying under oath.
Double Standards R US. So far the only standard that I see being applied is the one that says when you lie to a grand jury and get impeached you're pretty much done.
#20. To: mininggold (#18) (Edited) I would hope a manager of so much money would show a little more prudent behavior then just jumping in bed with whoever's convenient. I don't disagree, but it also seems likely that Strauss-Kahn paid for sex with the maid and perhaps got a little rough with her when she didn't perform to his expectation. If this arrangment had been made known to the police beforehand, I doubt he would have been arrested, much less held for a week on Rikers Island without bail.
#21. To: Thunderbird (#19) The veracity of Strauss-Kahn isn't at issue here OOOHHHHH YES IT IS. The head of the raping/pillaging, never running out of money to give onerous laons that can and are called in at the worst possible times. OOOHHH yes it is. The muther fucker's bveen traveling the world thinking that Maid Service includes free Blow Jobs.... muther fucker...
#22. To: Thunderbird (#20) I don't disagree, but it also seems likely that Strauss-Kahn paid for sex with the maid and perhaps got a little rough with her when she didn't perform to his expectation. And THAT"S just mad eup on the fly Bull Shit. The Maid's Story of the attack has never waivered. And what 'arrangement'? That DSK promised not to come in her mouth? How exactly are those arrangements carried out, TB. How do you proposition the maid?
#23. To: mininggold (#18) Considering that the "maid" is a part-time hooker and a pathological liar, a week in Rikers seems...excessive. And see, MG, you're already defining the case in DSK's favor. I'm DSK and your the defense? I'm already looking forward to checking into the next hotel for my Maid Service. The maid was raped. Just like the IMF rapes the world. Cause we deserve it. LMFAO
#24. To: All (#23) And that was the maid's mistake. She turned down the first lawyer who wanted to make the case of the IMF raping the world just like the maid. And I look forward to the next time we see an IMF Post over there in the Blue Box. I bet the IMF has never had it's very own thread....8D
#25. To: mcgowanjm (#22) The Maid's Story of the attack has never waivered. False.
#26. To: mcgowanjm (#23) And see, MG, you're already defining the case in DSK's favor. That first line of quote wasn't mine. I see the guy as a total jerk wad who needs to be in jail if only for being dishonest about his qualifications for his job.
#27. To: mininggold (#26) And see, MG, you're already defining the case in DSK's favor. ;}
#28. To: Thunderbird (#25) The Maid's Story of the attack has never waivered. True. And where did that semen come from. And how Does a multimillionaire approach a third world maid for consensual sex. Is it the same way he rapes the maid's home country? "http://www.cps-news.com/wp-content/misc_pdfs/Citigroup_Plutonomy_Part_1_Oct162005.pdf http://www.cps-news.com/wp-content/misc_pdfs/Citigroup_Plutonomy_Part_2_Mar52006.pdf The second one took a very long time to download, but it's there. Update on Monday, May 30, 2011 at 03:34PM by Registered CommenterSkeptic Picking up on the advice in the plutonomy memos, advertisers are being urged to give up on the middle class and target the 1-2% with the highest incomes because the middle class can no longer afford much of what they are selling. Sam Pizzigoti discusses and links to the recent Ad Age story, with this lede: The American middle class, concludes a new study from the ad industry’s top trade journal, has essentially become irrelevant. In a deeply unequal America, if you’re over 35 and your income hasn’t yet topped $200,000 a year, you don’t matter.
#29. To: mcgowanjm (#28) The maid LIED to the grand jury about details of the rape incident . The maid LIED about being raped before. The maid has been involved in scams since the day she was brought to the United States. Game over.
#30. To: Thunderbird (#29) The maid LIED to the grand jury about details of the rape incident . Got a transcript? Cause her lawyer says she didn't. But you believe the talking heads who breathlessly reported that. And strausskahn lied about rape before... So I guess we're just going to have a trial to find out who lied less, eh? And again-Can a prostitute be raped in the US? How did semen get all over the room and the maid? How does the head of the raping/pillaging IMF propose to the maid?
#31. To: Thunderbird (#29) The maid has been involved in scams since the day she was brought to the United States. The former head of the IMF has been involved in scams since the day he was inherited his fortune. Game over. It's a Big Club and you and I aren't in it. German privatisation agency poor model for Greece BBC News Reuters - 22 hours ago Under its EU/IMF bailout programme, Athens is supposed to sell a state asset every 10 days on average. Fichtner at DIW said he hopes the Greek sell-off will ... 292 related articles Greek sell-off 'threat to sovereignty'46; - The Guardian Greece must sell-off assets East German-style46; - Telegraph.co.uk More news for imf sells off greece »
#32. To: mininggold (#26) I see the guy as a total jerk wad who needs to be in jail if only for being dishonest about his qualifications for his job. Obama clearly isn't qualified to be president, much less pick dogshit up from my yard. So i'm sure you would agree Obama should be put in jail too? Yes?
#33. To: mcgowanjm (#30) (Edited) Got a transcript? Who cares what her lawyer says...the District Attorney produced the esculpatory evidence as required by law. Barring any new developments, the case against Strauss-Kahn will be dropped July 18th ...and if justice is served, the African hooker maid will be deported July 19th.
#34. To: A K A Stone (#32) You're not defending stausskahn, are you, AK? knowing that he's raped before?
#35. To: mcgowanjm (#34) You're not defending stausskahn, are you, AK? Not following the case to closely. I was just commenting on what mininggold said. So he has raped before huh? Where at and who? How long did he go to jail? When did he get out?
#36. To: Thunderbird (#33) Who cares what her lawyer says... But stausskahn's lawyere is your only source. So....you belive the MultiBillionarie's lawyer cause everyone knows these guys are saints. But the minority maid who had strausskahn's semen all over her and the room...her lawyer...no. Double standards. See, this is how revolutions start. the Aristocracy has no clue on the living conditions of the Bottom 90%... See Kate&William Tour of their Empire for details...
#37. To: A K A Stone (#35) So he has raped before huh? Where at and who? How long did he go to jail? When did he get out? Google it. Hungarian maid. IMF strausskahn rape scandal. And like incrimating the USSA and their EMpire, it's tough to bring these tyrants down. But down they go, everyone and always....8D
Like the President of Israel rape. and conviction. Did you hear about that?
#38. To: All (#37) Did you see the photo of Poppy Bush in front of the Texas Book Depository hours after JFK shot? And then have Poppy deny up until about 5 years ago that he was EVER in Dallas that day? Same shit. Ken Lay? Can you name One billionaire who's ever gone to jail?
#39. To: A K A Stone (#35) Female employee previously warned about IMF head - Worldnews.com article.wn.com/.../Female_employee_previously_warned_about_IM... - Cached May 17, 2011 – ... Monetary Fund employee, Hungarian-born economist Piroska Nagy. ... Nagy, who had worked at the IMF for decades, left the organization after the affair with. ... An IMF-funded investigation into the affair cleared Strauss-Kahn of ... IMF boss' lawyers set to claim New York hotel maid gave in . ...
#40. To: All (#39) Here you go. And this from a street rag tr ying to defend DSK's sorry ass!!!8D: # # Rumors of philandering and accusations of rape and/or general sleaziness have dogged Strauss-Kahn for years. In 2007, the journalist Tristane Banon claimed Strauss-Kahn tried to rape her in 2002. In 2008, he was found to be having an affair — apparently consensual — with a Hungarian economist at the IMF. He was allowed to keep his job, however, because it was not determined that he’d abused his authority. Also in 2008, French politician Aurélie Filipetti said Strauss-Kahn had groped her and that she would “forever make sure” she was never “alone in a room with him.” (Scary.) There is also an entire chapter devoted to Strauss-Kahn in a book called Sexus Politicus, written by two French journalists, about the sexual behavior of politicians. [New York Times] UPDATE: Oh, look, another sketchy story: a 2010 book published in France called DSK: Secrets of a Presidential Contender also claims Strauss-Kahn raped a maid while in Mexico on a business trip, possibly in 2006 or 2010. [Guanabee]
#41. To: All (#40) A local official of the Socialist party claimed that Strauss-Kahn had attacked her daughter, who is goddaughter to Strauss-Kahn's second wife, in 2002. Tristane Banon was in her 20s and writing a book when she approached Strauss-Kahn for an interview in 2002. In a TV programme in 2007, in which Strauss-Kahn's name had been bleeped out, Banon allegedly described him as a "rutting chimpanzee" and described how she was forced to fight him off. "It finished badly … very violently … I kicked him," Banon said. "When we were fighting, I mentioned the word 'rape' to make him afraid, but it didn't have any effect. I managed to get out." Banon consulted a lawyer, but did not press charges. "I didn't want to be known to the end of my days as the girl who had a problem with the politician." Banon's mother, Anne Mansouret, told journalists on Sunday night she had dissuaded her daughter from legal action because she believed Strauss-Kahn's behaviour had been out of character and because of close links with his family. "Today I am sorry to have discouraged my daughter from complaining. I bear a heavy responsibility," she said.
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