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Title: The Money Hole
Source: HE
URL Source: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=44188
Published: Jun 18, 2011
Author: John Stossel
Post Date: 2011-06-18 09:17:52 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 126524
Comments: 157

The Money Hole

by John Stossel, 06/15/2011

America is falling deeper into debt. We're long past the point where drastic action is needed. We're near Greek levels of debt. What's going to happen?

Maybe riots -- like we've seen in Greece?

We need to make cuts now.

Some governors have shown the way. You know about Chris Christie, Scott Walker, Rick Scott, John Kasich, etc. But you probably don't know about Luis Fortuno.

Fortuno is governor of Puerto Rico. Two years ago, he fired 17,000 government workers. No state governor did anything like that. He cut spending much more than Walker did in Wisconsin. In return, thousands of union members demonstrated against Fortuno for days. They clashed with police. They called him a fascist

Fortuno said he had to make the cuts because Puerto Rico's economy was a mess.

"Not just a mess. We didn't have enough money to meet our first payroll."

Fortuno's predecessors had grown Puerto Rico's government to the point that the state employed one out of every three workers. By the time he was elected, Puerto Rico was broke. So the new conservative majority, the first in Puerto Rico in 40 years, shrank the government.

What was cut?

"Everything. I started with my own salary."

The protesters said he should raise taxes instead of cutting spending.

"Our taxes were as high as they could be, actually much higher than most of the country. So what we've done is the opposite." Fortuno reduced corporate taxes from 35 percent to 25 percent. He reduced individual income taxes. He privatized entire government agencies.

"Bring in the private sector," Fortuno said. "They will do a better job. They will do it cheaper."

Fortuno's advice for leaders who want to shrink the state: "Do what you need to do quickly, swiftly, like when you take off a Band-Aid. Just do it. And move on to better things."

Canada did that years ago.

When I think Canada, I think big government. I'm embarrassed that I didn't know that in the mid-'90s, Canada shrank its government. It had to. Its debt level was as bad as ours is today, almost 70 percent of the economy. Canada's finance minister said: "We are in debt up to our eyeballs. That can't be sustained."

Economist David Henderson, a Canadian who left Canada for the United States, remembers when The Wall Street Journal called the Canadian dollar "the peso of the north." It was worth just 72 American cents. "Moody's put the Canadian federal debt on a credit watch," Henderson said.

The problem, he added, was that Canada had a government safety net that was more like a hammock.

"When I was growing up in Canada, people who went on unemployment insurance were said to go in the 'pogie.' You could work as little as eight weeks, taking the rest of the year off."

So in 1995 Canadian leaders cut unemployment benefits and other programs. It happened quietly because it was a liberal government, and liberals didn't want to criticize their own. The result was that Canada's debt stopped increasing. As the government ran budget surpluses, the debt went down.

"The economy boomed," Henderson said. "Think about what government does. Government wastes most of what it spends, and so just cutting government and having that money in the hands of people means it's going to be used more valuably."

Canada fired government workers, but unemployment didn't increase. In fact, it fell from 12 percent to 6 percent. Canadian unemployment is still well below ours. And the Canadian dollar rose from just 72 American cents to $1.02 today.

Canada also raised some taxes. But the spending cuts were much bigger, six to one: agriculture was cut 22 percent; fisheries, 27 percent; natural resources, almost 50 percent.

"We should learn from Canada's experience that you can cut government substantially," Henderson said. "It is so wasteful. There's so much to cut, without causing much real pain -- not causing pain, but helping your economy grow, helping people become better off."

Henderson added, "We need to move more quickly than the Canadians did. Unfortunately, we're moving more slowly than the Canadians did."

If we're moving at all.

While Canada thrives, we pour more money down the hole.


Poster Comment:

Now we know why Obozo went to Puerto Rico, can't have an American "territory" doing just the exact opposite of what the Great Leader is doing.....

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

Some morons were on here complaining the Rich don't pay enough taxes. What a load of shit. Especially when half don't pay anything.

There should be no federal income tax. It isn't needed. Cut unconstitutional spending and the budget will have a surplus.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-18   10:29:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Some morons were on here complaining the Rich don't pay enough taxes. What a load of shit. Especially when half don't pay anything.

Umm - yeah - that's what happens when wealth is concentrated at the top.

Most amazing of all, the top 0.1% -- that's one-tenth of one percent -- had more combined pre-tax income than the poorest 120 million people (Johnston, 2006).

sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

If you want more people to pay income taxes, then spread the wealth around so more people have income that rises to taxable levels.

Of course if you're talking about all taxes and not just income taxes then your statement is false.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-18   11:30:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: lucysmom (#11)

If you want more people to pay income taxes, then spread the wealth around so more people have income that rises to taxable levels.

Wouldn't creating jobs for those people be a better solution????

Give them the opportunity to be responsible for themselves and their families!!!! That might even create a little more honesty and integrity in this country, what a novel idea.....

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-18   11:51:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: CZ82 (#31)

Lucysmom thinks that the government should tell you what you get and how much. It shouldn't be a result of your hard work and planning.

Kind of like star trek. Where everyone has a replicator and there is no money.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-18   11:54:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone (#33)

Lucysmom thinks that the government should tell you what you get and how much. It shouldn't be a result of your hard work and planning.

How many people have seen the fruits of their hard work and planning wiped out in the collapse the ponzi scheme orchestrated by the banksters?

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-18   12:12:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: lucysmom (#42)

How many people have seen the fruits of their hard work and planning wiped out in the collapse the ponzi scheme orchestrated by the banksters?

You're talking chump change.

The biggest ponzi scheme in world history is social security. The government did it not the evil bankers.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-18   12:14:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: A K A Stone (#43)

The biggest ponzi scheme in world history is social security. The government did it not the evil bankers.

Since the bankers are instrumental in creating all the depressions and panics we have had in our history where citizen's savings and retirements went up in smoke, they do have some culpability.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-18   12:19:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: mininggold (#46)

Since the bankers are instrumental in creating all the depressions and panics we have had

That sounds like opinion and not fact.

I don't really like Banks. But they aren't responsible for everything wrong financially with us.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-18   12:21:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone (#48)

I don't really like Banks. But they aren't responsible for everything wrong financially with us.

You are free to look it up for yourself. Do you know there was only a fifty year period where we had a fairly stable economy and then Glass-Steagal was rescinded and we find ourselves ...here.

Your banker is now a stock broker. Who do you think he will look out for first?

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-18   12:26:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: mininggold (#52)

I have an idea. How about looking out for yourself.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-18   12:28:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone (#53)

I have an idea. How about looking out for yourself.

You sure are using a lot of "four letter words" today.... you need to go wash your keyboard out with soap!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-18   12:30:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: CZ82 (#55)

Well I never looked at my banker as my mommy and daddy who are supposed to look out for me.

I look at them as sharks who want my money and charge me fees for everything. You can't even cash a check made out to you anymore without being fingerprinted and fee'd. Yeah I made up a word.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-18   12:33:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: A K A Stone (#56)

I look at them as sharks who want my money and charge me fees for everything. You can't even cash a check made out to you anymore without being fingerprinted and fee'd. Yeah I made up a word.

You don't trust your banker? I though you loved the rich.

All that crap you go through with your bank is more Bush DHS BS to make sure you are not funding some terrorist cell.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-18   12:37:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: mininggold (#59)

You don't trust your banker? I though you loved the rich.

I don't hate the rich just because they were successful.

Everyone is supposed to be equal before the law. Why should they pay higher taxes.

If everyone is taxed at the same rate. That would be fare.

If you make 10 times as much money. You pay 10 times the taxes.

If you make 1000 times as much money. You pay 1000 times as much taxes.

You probably have a problem with that though. I mean being a libearal and all.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-18   12:40:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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