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Title: Landmark Hitler letter on Jews unveiled in New York
Source: BBC News
URL Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13692755
Published: Jun 9, 2011
Author: BBC News
Post Date: 2011-06-09 17:38:05 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 44321
Comments: 68

Landmark Hitler letter on Jews unveiled in New York

The letter is hand-typed and signed by Hitler. A letter by Adolf Hitler - said to be the earliest expression of his ideas on anti-Semitism - has been shown publicly for the first time in New York.

The four-page typed letter, written in 1919, calls for the "uncompromising removal" of Jews from society.

It was acquired by the Simon Wiesenthal Centre in Los Angeles, where it is due to go on display.

The statement by the then 30-year-old soldier is regarded as a key historical document from the period.

Correspondents say it is seen as significant because it demonstrates how early the future Nazi leader was forming his views.

'Legislation'

The document suggests that Hitler already believed, more than two decades before the Holocaust, that Jews should be removed from society.

"To begin with, Judaism is definitely a racial and not a religious group," Hitler wrote in the statement, known as the Gemlich letter.

The letter marks Judaism as "a racial and not a religious group" "The result of which is that a non-German race lives among us with its own feelings, thoughts and aspirations, while having all the same rights as we do."

In one section of the letter, Hitler writes that a government could tackle the so-called "Jewish question" by denying their rights, but said the "final aim, however, must be the uncompromising removal of the Jews altogether".

Rabbi Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Center said that the organisation bought the letter for $150,000 (£90,000) from a private dealer last month.

He said the letter - the existence of which has long been known to scholars - was a critical document from World War II because it "ties Hitler directly to the destruction of the Jews".

"In 1919, when he was a nobody he writes a letter... we need not emotional pogroms, we need legislation, we need a national government that would be ruthless enough, to do what? Total removal of the Jews from society," he told the BBC.

When it was written, Hitler was serving in the German army, and had had a tendency to stir up troops with his anti-Semitic rhetoric.

A superior officer asked him to put his ideas on paper, according to AP news agency.

The document was displayed at New York's Museum of Tolerance, but it will go on permanent show in Los Angeles from July.


Poster Comment:

So I wonder if Obama has an Anti-Semetic letter too????

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

So I wonder if Obama has an Anti-Semetic letter too????

Why are you a douche bag?

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Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-10   11:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Godwinson (#1)

So I wonder if Obama has an Anti-Semetic letter too????

Why are you a douche bag?

It's a legitimate question with his stance on Israel.... (must be too legitimate for you).....

At least I have an excuse, I was born that way..... instead of being a self made douche like you.......

I guess you don't like a little controversy, especially when you didn't start it.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-10   18:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: CZ82 (#2)

It's a legitimate question with his stance on Israel

Hitler supported the creation of a Jewish state.....

Why should the USA care for this Israel any more or less than any other nation?

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Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-10   21:26:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Godwinson (#3)

Hitler supported the creation of a Jewish state.....

If he did, then he sure blew it when he had the opportunity........ or then again maybe he did create one, a slave jewish state.......and later tried to hide the evidence.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   10:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Godwinson (#3)

Why should the USA care for this Israel any more or less than any other nation?

I don't think the Jews deserve a "Higher status" in the world than anybody else.... But, you don't throw you friends under the bus, unless they have proven they aren't your friends anymore.... and that isn't the case.....

She is surrounded by enemies that would just as soon see all of the Jews dead (like Hitler), why take a stance that would enable them to do just exactly that... eliminate them..... The Jewish people have suffered enough at the hands of others, why help her enemies...... (just like the Iraqis suffered under Saddam)....

The Jews have a right to exist just like all of the other people in the world, even though some of the others prove otherwise on a daily basis......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   10:22:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: CZ82 (#5)

The Head of State of the UN formed State of Israel coming to this nation and bashing the POTUS in the press is not the act of a "friend". There but for the grace of the US goes Israel. They should be eternally grateful for what they get from us and not be demanding more.

The US telling the UN formed State of Israel to get along with its neighbors is hardly calling for its destruction.

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war  posted on  2011-06-11   10:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#6)

The US telling the UN formed State of Israel to get along with its neighbors is hardly calling for its destruction.

But calling for them to be returned to 1967 borders is.... especially when he has no intentions of helping them if they do get attacked.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   10:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#6)

The Head of State of the UN formed State of Israel coming to this nation and bashing the POTUS in the press is not the act of a "friend". There but for the grace of the US goes Israel. They should be eternally grateful for what they get from us and not be demanding more.

Are you referring to Netanyahu's speech????

Or are you referring to something else?????

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   10:43:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: CZ82 (#8)

I'm referring to Netanyahoo's behavior.

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--GW Bush

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war  posted on  2011-06-11   10:55:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: CZ82 (#7)

But calling for them to be returned to 1967 borders is.... especially when he has no intentions of helping them if they do get attacked.....

The so called 1967 borders are the only borders recognized by the international community.

Israel was created by an act of the UN general assembly.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-11   10:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war (#9)

I'm referring to Netanyahoo's behavior.

Netty said what needed to be said, that Israel has a right to exist and the same thing I said, you don't throw your friends/allies under the bus without reason.... and politics isn't a good reason....(of course that doesn't stop the Libtards)... The reception he got in Congress shows what a leader he is and what Obozo isn't.....

If the Liberals in this country want peace over in that area then they need to lean on the Arabs and Palestinians.... they are the ones who "DON'T" want peace.... The Jews are warriors only because they have to be, they would rather live in peace than live in the current situation... which is out of their control.....

If you want a nuclear disaster in the Middle East just keep on demanding the Israelis go back to their 1967 borders, they will defend their right to exist and they will use nukes if necessary.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   14:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: CZ82 (#11)

If you want a nuclear disaster in the Middle East just keep on demanding the Israelis go back to their 1967 borders, they will defend their right to exist and they will use nukes if necessary.....

Then they will be anihilated, since the world would rather protect energy producing areas rather than energy taking areas.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-11   15:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: war (#10)

Israel was created by an act of the UN general assembly.

Jewish people have lived in that area for around 4000 years... The area was taken by the Romans around 2000 years ago and renamed Palestine as an insult to the Israelites.... So if anybody has a claim to the land it's the Israelis not some ragtag bunch of Arabs or the Palestinians......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   15:10:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mininggold (#12)

Then they will be anihilated, since the world would rather protect energy producing areas rather than energy taking areas.

Maybe, maybe not!!!

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   15:34:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: CZ82 (#11) (Edited)

Netty said what needed to be said

Netty can kiss my American ass. There but for the grace of the US goes Israel. Who in the fuck is he to come on our soil and lecture, or try to, the POTUS the terms of how we keep that UN formed state in existence. And when that failed to run crying to the press. Fuck him and fuck his UN formed "state".

Had any other foreigner come to the US and tried the same thing all of you would be calling for his head.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-11   15:35:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: CZ82 (#13)

Jewish people have lived in that area for around 4000 years...

ALWAYS as a minority.

The area was taken by the Romans around 2000 years ago and renamed Palestine as an insult to the Israelites...

That's an outright falsehood. Prior to the UN formed Israel coming into "existence" even Jews called it Palestine.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-11   15:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: CZ82 (#13)

So if anybody has a claim to the land it's the Israelis not some ragtag bunch of Arabs or the Palestinians......

Some Arabs are Jews.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-11   15:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: war (#17)

Some Arabs are Jews.

True..... just not many.... most are Mulsims or whatever else they believe in...

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   15:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Godwinson, CZ82 (#3)

Hitler supported the creation of a Jewish state.....

Why should the USA care for this Israel any more or less than any other nation?

Gooberloserton you are a LIAR, a FOOL and a TOOL, (did I mention libTURD WHORE?)

You can't even tell the truth about known history.

You are just another weak little lying libTURD whore.

Is it true that the messiah "king" obammy's sh!t "tastes like chicken" azz licker?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-11   15:47:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: war (#16)

The area was taken by the Romans around 2000 years ago and renamed Palestine as an insult to the Israelites...

That's an outright falsehood. Prior to the UN formed Israel coming into "existence" even Jews called it Palestine.

About 61 B.C., Roman troops under Pompei invaded Judea and sacked Jerusalem in support of King Herod. Judea had become a client state of Rome. Initially it was ruled by the client Herodian dynasty. The land was divided into districts of Judea, Galilee, Peraea and a small trans-Jordanian section, each of which eventually came under direct Roman control. The Romans called the large central area of the land, which included Jerusalem, Judea. According to Christian belief, Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem, Judea, in the early years of Roman rule. Roman rulers put down Jewish revolts in about A.D. 70 and A.D. 132. In A.D. 135, the Romans drove the Jews out of Jerusalem, following the failed Bar Kochba revolt. The Romans named the area Palaestina, at about this time. The name Palaestina, which became Palestine in English, is derived from Herodotus, who used the term Palaistine Syria to refer to the entire southern part of Syria, meaning "Philistine Syria." Most of the Jews who continued to practice their religion fled or were forcibly exiled from Palestine, eventually forming a second Jewish Diaspora. However, Jewish communities continued to exist, primarily in the Galilee, the northernmost part of Palestine. Palestine was governed by the Roman Empire until the fourth century A.D. (300's) and then by the Byzantine Empire. In time, Christianity spread to most of Palestine. The population consisted of Jewish converts to Christianity and paganism, peoples imported by the Romans, and others who had probably inhabited Palestine continuously.

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   15:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: CZ82 (#20)

Okay...and?

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"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-11   15:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: war (#15)

Netty can kiss my American ass. There but for the grace of the US goes Israel. Who in the fuck is he to come on our soil and lecture, or try to, the POTUS the terms of how we keep that UN formed state in existence. And when that failed to run crying to the press. Fuck him and fuck his UN formed "state".

Had any other foreigner come to the US and tried the same thing all of you would be calling for his head.

Obozo brought this upon himself with his stupid world views and "Apology for America Tour".....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   15:49:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: CZ82 (#18)

True..... just not many....

Not surprising considering hardly anyone is...

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"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-11   15:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: CZ82 (#22) (Edited)

Had any other foreigner come to the US and tried the same thing all of you would be calling for his head.

Obama stated the institutional policy of the US going back to LBJ.

It's that "history" thing that you on the "right" seem to ignore.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-11   15:50:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#24)

Had any other foreigner come to the US and tried the same thing all of you would be calling for his head. Obama stated the institutional policy of the US going back to LBJ.

It's that "history" thing that you on the "right" seem to ignore.

So who was it that came here or was it to a UN meeting that completely denigrated the US and Obozo just sat there looking stupid.... Chavez or Gadaffi???

It depends on what version of history you're talking about, actual history or Liberal re-written history.....

Let me guess, you liked LBJ.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   16:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: CZ82 (#25)

The US has NEVER recognized Israel as having a claim to any border beyond what it was granted by the UN when it was formed by that body.

FYI, in 1967, LBJ was POTUS.

That "history" thingie again, eh?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-11   16:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: CZ82 (#25)

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-11   16:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: CZ82 (#25)

We base our approach squarely on the principle that the Arab-Israeli conflict should be resolved through the negotiations involving an exchange of territory for peace. This exchange is enshrined in United Nations Security Council Resolution 242*, which is, in turn, incorporated in all its parts in the Camp David agreements. U.N. Resolution 242 remains wholly valid as the foundation-stone of America's Middle East peace effort.

-Ronald Wilson Reagan POTUS

*242 passed the UNSC in November of 1967 and called for Israel to pull back to its UN formed borders.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-11   16:11:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: war (#26)

FYI, in 1967, LBJ was POTUS.

I know, I was 11 at the time, and he was the beginning of what the Democrat Party has denigrated into, a bunch of criminals/idiots/losers.....

I bet if the truth be known he had a hand in JFKs demise.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   16:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: war (#27)

So what do you want me to say other than Bush was a RINO, (Baby Democrat)!!!!

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   16:19:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: war (#28)

*242 passed the UNSC in November of 1967 and called for Israel to pull back to its UN formed borders.

The cornerstone of all postwar diplomacy was U.N. Security Council Resolution 242, passed in November 1967. It did not demand that Israel pull back completely to the pre-1967 lines. Its withdrawal clause only called on Israel to withdraw "from territories," not from all territories. Britain's foreign secretary at the time, George Brown, later underlined the distinction: "The proposal said 'Israel will withdraw from territories that were occupied,' and not from 'the' territories, which means that Israel will not withdraw from all the territories."

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   16:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: CZ82 (#29)

I bet if the truth be known he had a hand in JFKs demise.....

GHW Bush most certainly did. General Lemnitzer did as well. Or maybe you ***think*** it coincidence that when Boosh was running the CIA Lem, an architect of the Bay of Pigs fiasco and an ardent advocate of using the CIA to overthrow Castro, was appointed to investigate whether E Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis - two of the CIA point men in Cuba - were in on the plot that assassinated JFK.

That said, the point is, the stupidity in this nation - most often displayed/typified by the "right" - has never been more starkly apparent when it comes to what the policy of the US has been for the last 44 years regarding Israel's borders.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-11   16:27:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: CZ82 (#31)

With all due respect to Brown, the UN formed State of Israel itself believes that 242 requires it to pull back to the borders of 4 June 1967.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-11   16:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: CZ82 (#31)

I"ts withdrawal clause only called on Israel to withdraw 'from territories'..."

By the way, the language in 242 is: "Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict."

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-11   16:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: war (#33)

With all due respect to Brown, the UN formed State of Israel itself believes that 242 requires it to pull back to the borders of 4 June 1967

How were Israel's legal rights to new boundaries justified? A good explanation came from Judge Stephen Schwebel, who would later be an adviser to the State Department and then president of the International Court of Justice in The Hague. Writing in the American Journal of International Law in 1970, he noted that Israel's title to West Bank territory—in the event that it sought alterations in the pre-Six Day War lines—emanated from the fact that it had acted in lawful exercise of its right to self-defense. It was not the aggressor.

The flexibility for creating new borders was preserved for decades. Indeed, the 1993 Oslo Agreements, signed by Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat on the White House lawn, did not stipulate that the final borders between Israel and the Palestinians would be the 1967 lines. Borders were to be a subject for future negotiations. An April 2004 U.S. letter to Israel, backed by a bipartisan consensus in both houses of Congress, stipulated that Israel was not expected to fully withdraw, but rather was entitled to "defensible borders." U.S. secretaries of state from Henry Kissinger to Warren Christopher reiterated the same point in past letters of assurance.

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   16:33:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: CZ82 (#35)

AIM OF THE NEGOTIATIONS

The aim of the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations within the current Middle East peace process is, among other things, to establish a Palestinian Interim Self-Government Authority, the elected Council (the "Council"), for the Palestinian people in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, for a transitional period not exceeding five years, leading to a permanent settlement based on Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338.

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war  posted on  2011-06-11   16:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: war (#36)

AIM OF THE NEGOTIATIONS

The aim of the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations within the current Middle East peace process is, among other things, to establish a Palestinian Interim Self-Government Authority, the elected Council (the "Council"), for the Palestinian people in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, for a transitional period not exceeding five years, leading to a permanent settlement based on Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338.

Maybe they should have told the Palestinians that, they don't seem to know....

Then again if they quit firing rockets into Israel and executing innocent people, maybe somebody would listen to their demands for peace.... But I don't think that's going to happen..... So it looks like the Palestinians can just go piss up a rope.....

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CZ82  posted on  2011-06-11   16:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war, CZ82 (#26)

The US has NEVER recognized Israel as having a claim to any border beyond what it was granted by the UN when it was formed by that body.

The problem with your statement is that Israel is a sovereign nation based on UN sanctions. Palestine is not; Palestine or the region considered Palestine is free for the taking and the Zionists do so.

Hagee (and American ilk) are a wonderful instrument of God, aren't they? NOT! They encourage all this ME tension through their generous "love gifts" while militant Muslims (Taliban, al-Qaeda, SUICIDE BOMBERS, etc.) continue a literal "war" campaign against US imperialist aggression siding with Israel.

Of course, the treatment of Palestinians contained behind barbed wire, cement walls and other barriers exacerbates the issues. They are treated like dogs, unworthy of anything including self-respect. Since the establishment of Israel, do you know how many UN refugee camps have been established around Israel expressly for displaced Palestinians? I wager you and not many know.

And the US pays some 30% of UN budgets; the USA really is in a pickle playing games with the entire issue.

This foreign entanglement has doomed America. This is the aftermath of WW2 that Americans face in the ME.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-11   16:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: CZ82 (#37)

Aren't you the good little propagandist. Read the foreign press. It's rare that a rocket or a suicide bomber has come into Israel but for a day or two before the IDF increased their body count by a few.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-11   18:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: buckeroo (#38) (Edited)

This foreign entanglement has doomed America.

More so than the Cold War spending, IMHO.

And I had heard that there were 50_ back in the 1980's. I would imagine that it's far more now.

*edited within the '49 borders...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-11   18:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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