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Title: Obama Economy Worse Than 1970s
Source: PU
URL Source: http://patriotupdate.com/articles/obama-economy-worse-than-1970s
Published: May 29, 2011
Author: Floyd Brown
Post Date: 2011-05-29 08:53:25 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 123189
Comments: 113

Obama Economy Worse Than 1970s

Written on May 28, 2011 by Floyd Brown

The worst economic conditions in recent memory were during the Jimmy Carter era of stagflation. Stagflation was a term coined in the 1970s to describe high unemployment with high inflation. Stagflation is back. Translation: America’s middle class is getting poorer; a record number of middle class workers are out of work. If you are lucky enough to have a job, your wages aren’t going up, but you are facing higher prices for everything.

“Recent data suggests that the current economic recovery is both sluggish and slowing with unemployment stubbornly high,” this from a page one story in Investor’s Business Daily.

The Obama/ Bernanke partnership has been a bust.

The Fed is winding down Ben Bernanke’s experiment in money printing called “QE2”. He trumpets his success saying that QE2 has pointed the U.S. economy “in the right direction.” But did it really? It turns out that QE2 has created maybe 700,000 full-time jobs, but at a cost of about $850,000 for each job.

All QE2 did was create a boom in the stock market. Wall Street bankers reaped millions while the average investors barely madeback some small amount of the money that they lost during the 2008 crash.

We believe this boom is an easy money mirage, as MarketWatch.com reports, “But even the stock market boom hasn’t been what it appears. An analysis shows that most of the rise in the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index under QE2 has simply been a result of the decline in the dollar in which shares are measured.Measured in hard currencies, the stock market boom has been much less impressive. In Swiss francs, the S&P has risen by just 8.4% since Aug. 27. In currencies like the Swedish krone and Australian dollars it’s even less. Measured in gold, the S&P 500 is up just 4.5%.”

QE2 has had little visible effect on the real economy. Over the same period, the number of part-time workers has gone down by 600,000. In other words, we’ve basically shifted 600,000 or 700,000 workers from part-time jobs to full-time jobs.

Marketwatch.com continues: “The percentage of the population in work is actually lower today – 58.4%, compared to 58.5% last August. The percentage of the work force in actual work, the so-called ‘participation rate,’ has fallen by half a percentage point.”

Housing is no better because of QE2, April housing starts fell 11%. Marketwatch.com says, “Housing is double-dipping. According to the National Association of Realtors, the average price of an ‘existing’ home was $177,300 in August, just before QE2. Now it’s $163,700 – or 8% less.Economic growth has slowed. It was 2.6% last summer. It’s a miserable 1.8% now.Meanwhile inflation has risen, from 1.2% before QE2 to 3.1% now.”

We all wish for better news, but Obama’s policies are pointing us in the wrong direction. Regulation of business is growing. One CEO of a mining firm we talked with said he is looking for new projects abroad. “I have been fighting for nearly a decade to open a new mine in Montana, and at every turn the government places roadblocks in my way. How am I to create any jobs?”

If Obama’s tax policies are enacted then we could see marginal income tax rates of 60% in some states. Obama clings to socialism and his new programs in healthcare and welfare. They all retard growth. Unemployment taxes are at record highs in most states and this further depresses hiring.

The Fed has invested nearly $2 trillion in Treasury debt since 2008. The investment hasn’t paid off, but when the relentless buying of US Treasury debt ends, we have no similar experience to guide us. One result could be even further collapse and a full blown depression.

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

America’s middle class is getting poorer; a record number of middle class workers are out of work.

The middle class has been getting poorer (while the rich have been getting richer) since 1975.

Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households. CIA World Factbook

But darn, we could always live on credit.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-29   10:05:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lucysmom (#1)

The middle class has been getting poorer (while the rich have been getting richer) since 1975.

Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households. CIA World Factbook

But darn, we could always live on credit.

Doesn't change the simple undeniable fact, goofy.

Owe-bama's economic policies, such as they are, have failed spectacularly.

And thats why he's going to get fired in a landslide next year.

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-29   11:03:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Badeye (#3) (Edited)

Owe-bama's economic policies, such as they are, have failed spectacularly.

The stim was too shallow but, even so, did what a good portion of what it was supposed to do which was to halt the recession and restart growth. The auto makers have paid the US back.

Or are you referring to his agreeing to extend the moronic Bush era tax cuts?

war  posted on  2011-05-29   12:18:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: war (#8)

The auto makers have paid the US back.

I don't believe that is true.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-30   0:17:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#28)

I don't believe that is true.

Its not, and WTP still own a substantial chunk of General Motors

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-05-30   0:49:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Thunderbird, war (#30)

I don't believe that is true.

Its not, and WTP still own a substantial chunk of General Motors

War. Are you a liar to stupid?

If you think you are right prove it and you can call me stupid.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-30   9:49:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#35)

Chrysler Pays Back Rescue Loan

By BILL VLASIC

Published: May 24, 2011

DETROIT — Chrysler paid back on Tuesday $7.6 billion in loans from the American and Canadian governments, paving the way for its Italian partner, Fiat, to increase its control over the Detroit carmaker.

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GM pays back loans from U.S., Canada

ETROIT (AP) — General Motors Co. has repaid the $8.1 billion in loans it got from the U.S. and Canadian governments, a move its CEO says is a sign automaker is on the road to recovery.

GM CEO Edward Whitacre Jr. will formally announce the loan paybacks Wednesday at the company’s Fairfax Assembly Plant in Kansas City, Kansas, where he will also announce that GM is investing $257 million in that factory and the Detroit-Hamtramck plant, both of which will build the next generation of the midsize Chevrolet Malibu.

GM got a total of $52 billion from the U.S. government and $9.5 billion from the Canadian and Ontario governments as it went through bankruptcy protection last year. The U.S. considered as a loan $6.7 billion of the aid, while the Canadian governments held $1.4 billion in loans.

The U.S. government payments, made Tuesday, came five years ahead of schedule, and Mr. Whitacre said they are a sign that the automaker is on its way toward reducing government ownership of the company. The payments on the Canadian loans were also made Tuesday.

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You're weclome.

war  posted on  2011-05-30   10:57:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: war (#38)

In the case of GM, they simply used an equity line from the TARP program to pay off their bailout. That’s just a shift from one government bailout program to another, however the latter doesn’t contain the strings the specified automaker bailout did. Then there is the separate case of the $50 billion dollar bridge loan based upon stock valuations as well yet to come.

Chrysler didn’t use TARP money, rather they simply swapped out the government loan with private investor equity lines with far preferable terms. They still owe the same amount, only with much less interest in the future.

In short, nobody has paid off anything. It’s merely been shuffling of debt and accounting sleight of hand in order to generate favorable publicity and remove the government from its oversight role. I have no complaint with the latter at all. Government shouldn’t be in this business whatsoever anyway, I just disagree with the sales pitch.

You're stupid.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-30   11:15:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone (#46)

Blah blah blah...

There are no outstanding debts owed to the US by the automakers...

You were wrong again, Stone...courtesy of me...

But thanks for once again showing what you are...incapable of admitting error...

war  posted on  2011-05-30   11:39:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#55. To: war (#53)

They took out one govt loan to pay another one. They are still in debt to US govt. Unfortunately.

Are you really that dumb? Or is it an act?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-30 11:44:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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