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Title: Retarded Freak Say There Is No Heaven
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URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/article.ph ... 305131c47e4.491&show_article=1
Published: May 16, 2011
Author: unattributed
Post Date: 2011-05-16 19:57:44 by A K A Stone
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Views: 23943
Comments: 59

British scientist Stephen Hawking has branded heaven a "fairy story" for people afraid of the dark, in his latest dismissal of the concepts underpinning the world's religions.

The author of 1988 international best-seller "A Brief History of Time" said in an interview with The Guardian published on Monday that his views were partly influenced by his battle with motor neurone disease.

"I have lived with the prospect of an early death for the last 49 years. I'm not afraid of death, but I'm in no hurry to die. I have so much I want to do first," he told the newspaper.

"I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark."

Hawking's stance on religion has hardened significantly in the nearly quarter century since the publication of his seminal work on the cosmos.

In "A Brief History of Time" he suggested that the idea of a divine being was not necessarily incompatible with a scientific understanding of the Universe.

But in his 2010 book "The Grand Design" he said a deity no longer has any place in theories on the creation of the universe in the light of a series of developments in physics.

Hawking has achieved worldwide fame for his research, writing and television documentaries despite suffering since the age of 21 from motor neurone disease that has left him disabled and dependent on a voice synthesiser.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Retarted Freak Say There Is No Heaven

How Christian of you to insult a man with disabilities who happens to be one of the most brilliant minds on the planet all because he says that science does not show evidence of any supernatural world where ghosts live.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-16   20:00:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Godwinson (#1)

who happens to be

a retard.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-16   20:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Stephen Hawking is not a retarded freak. He's actually a genius, but even a genius can be wrong.

Hell, Einstein preached socialism.

Tag lines are gay.

We The People  posted on  2011-05-16   20:03:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: We The People (#3)

He is a genius in his own mind and the mind of fools.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-16   20:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Godwinson (#1) (Edited)

How Christian of you to insult a man with disabilities who happens to be one of the most brilliant minds on the planet all because he says that science does not show evidence of any supernatural world where ghosts live.

I guess once some preacher has dunked 'em, evangelicals believe they can say and do anything and still get into heaven.

mininggold  posted on  2011-05-16   20:12:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone, We The People, mininggold (#4) (Edited)

So you are calling Hawking an idiot for not believing there are ghosts who live in a ghost world all their own? Seriously? The same people who said there were ghosts also said there were werewolves and vampires. As late as the mid 1800s Americans would dig up the dead to anti-vampire the corpses. A couple of centuries earlier Americans killed people for being witches which meant they were actually dealing with the devil face to face. If you argued with those people they would also call you an idiot for not accepting that Salem had witches or that vampires and werewolves were not real (if they did not kill you for saying so, that is).

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-16   21:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Godwinson (#1) (Edited)

The fool believes in his heart that there is no God.

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Coral Snake  posted on  2011-05-17   2:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Godwinson (#6) (Edited)

And right here in the 21st century people like you still butcher little babies and chop them into pieces. Truly evil. They should execute people like that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-17   9:15:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Let's see, he's brilliant, has been a leading scientist that has produced excellent work for decades and he tolerates people who he believes believe in fairy tales, and you are angry and vindictive enough you don't want to do more than call him names and denigrate his work.

He looks better than you do, sport. So what if he thinks your religion deals in fairy tales, get over it. Be an adult and agree to disagree.

Stop pouting.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-17   9:17:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ferret Mike (#9)

The man is sick in the head Mike. He is utterly useless to the human race.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-17   9:21:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#10) (Edited)

Oh grow up. He's an award winning scientist who has triumphed over a serious disability.

Suck it up. If your shit is so true, bubba, why are you so defensive and calling people junior high level names just because is opinion's not yours? You are a whiner.

We have free will, and it's seriously stupid to expect everyone to agree with you.

Stop the temper tantrum.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-17   9:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Coral Snake (#7)

The fool believes in his heart that there is no God.

I thought a fool believes in stuff there is no evidence for existing.......

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-17   9:43:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#8)

And right here in the 21st century people like you still butcher little babies and chop them into pieces. Truly evil. They should execute people like that.

How can you expect to be taken seriously when you not only allow murder on your forum everyday but join in.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-17   9:48:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#11)

why are you so defensive and calling people junior high level names just because is opinion's not yours?

As a former conservative I have observed that these so called conservatives are actually against the Bill Of Rights. Sure they are for freedom of religion - as in impose their religion on others and they do not tolerate other views at all. Divergent views freak them out.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-17   9:54:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone (#13)

I am against abortion by the way but stone is a kook.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-17   9:55:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Godwinson (#15)

I am against abortion by the way but stone is a kook.

Neither am I.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-17   10:04:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Godwinson (#15)

I am against abortion by the way but stone is a kook.

If you voted for Obama you supported abortion.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-17   10:06:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#13)

How can you expect to be taken seriously when you not only allow murder on your forum everyday but join in.

Who was murdered?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-17   10:07:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Godwinson (#12)

I thought a fool believes in stuff there is no evidence for existing.......

Take another look at the fossil record.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-17   10:07:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)

See Sermon on the Mount

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-17   10:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone, Lucysmom (#17)

If you voted for Obama you supported abortion.

Since God determines who rules so did Jesus by your logic.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-17   10:51:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lucysmom (#20)

Just get to the point.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-17   12:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Godwinson (#15)

"I am against abortion by the way but stone is a kook."

I am against abortion and the death penalty as both work to undermine the sanctity of human life.

But Stone trots out the image of dead baby bodies every time he feels insecure about how well he argues a point.

The way the idiot did this thread just shows how immature and pointless Stone is.

He acts like being an atheist is a criminal act and not a valid position on religion protected by the First Amendment.

Why Stone hates the Constitution so is beyond me. He wants to be the sort of religious bully the Constitution is there to protect people against.

The Constitution protects people from religion every bit as much as it protects small religions from being attacked and bullied by larger ones.

If he can't understand that, I don't see the point he has in running this forum.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-17   16:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

Your words ring hollow.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-17   16:15:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#24)

Yours' ring crazy. Don't you understand the U.S. Constitution?

People have freedom of religion, says so right in the First Amendment.

How does this man's view on religion rate the waving of the aborted fetus around?

Grow up, Stone. Atheists are not criminals, and being one does not automatically make them pro abortion. You just sound immature and silly criticizing this man for being an independent thinker, which is exactly what his job is anyway.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-17   16:25:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#17)

"If you voted for Obama you supported abortion."

If you voted for Reagan, you voted for a man who supported abortion as Governor of California. He was a man who never supported a constitutional amendment to make abortion illegal.

If you want to twist a story about how a leading physicist view religion into a wave the dead baby thread, deal with that.

The problems with abortion should be used to battle abortion. It is disrespectful to the victims of abortion to turn that issue on it's head to use as a tool to battle others because they do not buy your religion.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-17   16:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Coral Snake, Godwinson (#7)

The fool believes in his heart that there is no God.

"THERE ARE NO ATHEISTS

Someone one day found the comedian W.C. Feild's reading the Bible and asked what he was doing. His reply was "just looking for loopholes, just looking for loopholes." There are a lot of people who read with the same intention of disregarding any evidence. After all we are so much more advance than they were 1,950 years ago when this ancient book was written.

There are only three options to explain our existence, one is to believe in God, another is agnosticism which states their may be a God but I haven't found proof. The last is atheism where one will state they know God does not exist. This is not just a non- belief in God but a willful denial of his existence. Agnosticism is where one admits that they do not know if God exists, not having the proof or that there is a personal God who has always existed.

No one is born an atheist, they learn NOT to believe, just as one learns to believe. People choose to become atheists as much as they choose to become Christians, unfortunately they usually disbelieve by default. Hopefully one become s Christian because of evidence.

Atheism is natural to man, it is the most comfortable position. It is a reflection of his depraved state being engulfed in sin. The Bible states: the fool has said in his heart there is no God. Why, because there is so much evidence to the contrary? No, it is more of a hopeful out look so that they will not be accountable to anyone or for anything they have done.

God is aware of the atheist while the atheist is not aware of God. In response he says Psalm 14:1-2 The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none who does good. The LORD looks down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there are any who understand, who seek God.”

No matter how strenuously some may try to deny it, atheism is a belief system. It requires just as much faith (believing) to embrace that God does not exist, even more belief than a Christian would need to believe he does exist. Atheism has made a secular belief system (religion/philosophy) of having no God and their focus is usually nature. God's creation has replaced the one who made it. An atheist must assume that personal unique intricate living organisms arose from impersonal disorderly chaos. Something had to come from nothing. They have no explanation for a beginning of when or why. There is no purpose in what we see and call creation. Atheism assumes that the potential gives rise to the actual. Reality shows that something actualized the potential itself. All Potentials have an actualizer. Scrap iron from a junk yard does not form itself into an airplane or a building without some thing that is able to put it to order. All designs have a designer, and the universe has proven to be incredibly designed. Even the minutest organism is more complex than the space shuttle.

"Can you prove for certain that Christianity, the Bible is true?"

The answer to this question is, "Yes, Christianity can be absolutely be proven true." This, does not mean that everyone will accept the evidence, no matter how much there is or convincing it is.

In our courts of law when a judge employs a jury, he or she tells them to decide based on probability, based on the evidence presented. It cannot be certainty since none have viewed the crime. If jury decisions were delayed until 100% certainty existed, no verdict could be rendered. Decisions are based on a combination of faith related to fact.

Anything we buy we trust the manufacturer in what he says for the guarantee. But God who is the creator of all some seem to trust less than man. But he has proven his record through prophecy unlike any other person or book written.

If one investigates nature with an open mind and heart it will lead them to know there is a God and if they go further it will lead them to the one true God. Of course one can stop pursuing it and then would then have to admit nature is the greater than themselves. Since it holds mysteries which they cannot intellectually fathom. Yet the Bible declares in Rom. 1:20 "For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse." From Adam to to Moses to Abraham to Isaiah and the prophets, to the apostles to the early church pastors, to Luther, Calvin to Charles Spurgeon to D. L. Moody and Billy Sunday; they would all agree on the same thing: that man disregards what the Word of God says. Every atheist has this in common, they do not believe there is a God, therefore the word of God cannot be what it claims to be. Man lives for himself and makes himself to be the authority - therefore he is his own god. Mankind promotes an eat, drink and be merry philosophy. After all tomorrow we all die and that's it, there is no afterlife- or so they hope.

There are numerous logical problems inherent in the atheists belief system. Consider these examples.

Their declaration "There is no God." Some atheists explicitly state that there is no God, and all atheists believe it. This rumor is ancient and the naïve continue to believe it. Yet this assertion is bankrupt and cannot be logically defended by any from their position. To be a Atheist one would have to be omniscient, knowing all things, having a perfect knowledge of the universe, to say they absolutely know God does not exist. For one to do this they would have to personally inspected all places in the present known universe and in all time, having explored everywhere seen and unseen. Things of matter or things invisible, to say unequivocally God does not exist. Can any atheist seriously hold to his position of no God with the logical inconsistency challenging his position?

He then would have to have a perfect knowledge of all things past present and future. Theirs is not a statement made on facts, since one would actually have to be God to claim this. So such a statement is based only on assumption not on the facts. A person would have to be God in order to say there is no God, therefore God would exist. It would be them. That’s not too comforting a thought.

There are a numerous reasons why atheism is inadequate as a rational world view. This can quickly be exposed for the charade it is. By asking the atheist the question, are there some things that he knows that you do not? Most will admit to this. Can there also be some things that I know that you may not? He would logically have to admit this also. After all we all have different education and life experiences. So isn’t it possible that millions of people who claim to know God may in fact know him by experience and knowledge while you do not? After all, when you went to school you studied different subjects than me and I studied different ones than you! you would be more knowledgeable on some that I may not. So we see this reasoning already at work in our society and culture.

The point is clearly made and the only response he can take is to try to avoid seeming just as narrow minded and dogmatic as you are, is to admit it is possible. After all, things are supposed to make sense!

Atheism cannot adequately explain the existence of the world. Like all things, the world in which we live cries out for an explanation. Why is it here? The whole existence of the universe argues for a designer, an architect that is creative and into different shapes, sizes, colors, details, and fashioning everything as unique. There is order and design, much like an artist paints a picture. This takes not only intelligence, but a superior supernatural intelligence for the size, quantity and functioning of the known universe. Even non believers like Julian Huxley have calculated the odds of a pure chance of life evolving are to 1,000 to the millionth power. That is a 1 followed by 3 million zeros. There are not many options either the universe itself is eternal or that the universe had a beginning. To go the latter means he must have an explanation for what caused it.

The atheist cannot adequately explain the world even to another atheist, but they certainly have no problem agreeing among themselves there is no God. Misery loves company.

An atheist needs to prove their is no God just as they demand proof from those who believe their is a God. While we may not have a physical being to point to and say there he is, you can see him. He has left his fingerprint on all creation that He was and still is involved.

Is it reasonable or just for God to condemn atheists. Since they claim he has not given ample evidence of his existence they are left with no choice but to not believe in him.

Actually he has given more than enough evidence, it is stated in Rom.1 The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament shows his handiwork day by day they utter speech. No one can say there is not enough evidence. They can only say I don't accept it or I don't understand it. For the evidence is overwhelming.

Many through history studied nature because they saw order and complexity in it, thinking that what they see was God controlling things not knowing it was affected by God who controls it.

Rom.1:20 explains Atoms. tells us that things are made from the invisible things Heb.11:3 By faith we understand that the worlds were framed (made to fit put in order) by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible. "The things which are seen are made of things not seen. This was not known until modern science discovered the invisible atoms, Invisible microscopic structures.

An atom is a unit of matter, the smallest unit of an element, having all the characteristics of that element and consisting of a dense, central, positively charged nucleus surrounded by a system of electrons. The entire structure has an approximate diameter of 10-8 centimeter and characteristically remains undivided in chemical reactions except for limited removal, transfer, or exchange of certain electrons. Atoms cannot be seen using optical microscopes, they are much smaller than the wavelengths of visible light. Seen by imaging techniques such as electron microscopes, scanning tunneling microscopes, and atomic force microscopes.

There is absolutely no way man could have such accurate knowledge in the past. As Romans 1 describes- they suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

AGNOSTICS & OTHER EXCUSES

There are agnostics who claim there may be a God but they are not willing to acknowledge him so that they may live by his precepts. So He has no bearing on their lives. Instead of God keeping us out of the garden, man keeps him out of their own lives. There are those who claim atheism and walk in life as if there is no God, there are others who deny God but walk in life as if there is one. Man looks to be set free to do his own will, only this is not freedom but becomes a bondage, because one then lives in a false standard of what is right. Rom.1:28 states man does not want to retain God in their knowledge. Mans natural inclination is to distance themselves from God even if they think He may exist. Just as Adam and Eve did when they had guilt for their disobedience. We are quick to raise an objection against his precepts if they prohibit our so called freedoms. As Paul quotes the Old Testament in Rom.3:10-12 As it is written: There is none righteous, no, not one There is none who understands; there is none who seeks after God. They have all turned aside; they have together become unprofitable; there is none who does good, no, not one. No one is born with the intent to seek God as his ruler, nor for the betterment of himself. There is no desire to commune and is desirable for all that less than the creator. His eyes are toward earth and all that he can see. There is no inclination for faith, to perceive what is not seen.

As Steven Charnock said, "men do evil with both hands earnestly, but do good with one hand faintly."

Ps 36:1 "An oracle within my heart concerning the transgression of the wicked: there is no fear of God before his eyes."

The fear of God is a built in natural instinct to man. This is not a fear of offending him but one of being punished by him. To be justly dealt with is mans main complaint, it is not fair to be sent to hell the practicing wicked claim. Yet it is this fear that can awaken ones conscience to an eternity that lies beyond what they now see.

Prov. 16:6: "In mercy and truth atonement is provided for iniquity; and by the fear of the LORD one departs from evil." By ignoring God man rushes to do his own evil desires, we are excited to be in control of our circumstances, only to find we have very little. Job 21:15: "Who is the Almighty, that we should serve Him? And what profit do we have if we pray to Him?" What purpose do we look to obey God. An agnostic does not serve out of his conscience but for the flesh to profit. There is no spiritual inclination or motivation it is for self only. Unfortunately we find the same attitude in the church today.

There are those that look in the Bible and see some value in its counsel and use its ethics and moral codes for a lifestyle of humanism. Their intent is not to please the creator or do His will but for it is for their own human benefits. It is agreeable to their philosophy of doing good because they want only good to be done to them. They live by what they call the golden rule. This is what is called a form of religion but denying its power. We are more than willing to practice in the outward than have the inward change that would really affect our nature. We don't want to give up our hidden secret things of the heart. Yet the Bible says all is laid bare before him, he knows, Heb 4:13 " And there is no creature hidden from his sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account." Luke 8:17: "For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light." And we thought we got away with it!

1 Cor. 4:5: " Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts." So whether one likes or not, believes it or not, accountability is to take place.

Mans quest is to be his own God, we want to rule our own lives and answer only to our self. The age old cliché has God said, is still alive and well. Essentially we have no real and lasting solutions since they are only from mans wisdom and his perspective, which does not have eternity in mind. We are in rebellion trying to force our way back into the garden. There is only one entrance back and it is to humble oneself admit we are sinful and then we will be allowed to partake of the tree of life (Christ's cross). Until this occurs we will continue to bear fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil."

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Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-17   16:57:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Mad Dog, Ferret Mike, Coral Snake (#27)

There are only three options to explain our existence, one is to believe in God, another is agnosticism which states their may be a God but I haven't found proof. The last is atheism where one will state they know God does not exist. This is not just a non- belief in God but a willful denial of his existence. Agnosticism is where one admits that they do not know if God exists, not having the proof or that there is a personal God who has always existed.

Why do you trot out the Abrahamic God as the god of creation and not the older Hindu version? I respect a philosophical argument on the nature of what God may be or his existence but your side just assumes its Jesus.

Yes, a divinity may be in existence that caused life to come into play but why do you assume it is the way the Jews or Christians describe god and not how the Hindus or other religions do? That's why your argument falls flat and is a false one.

The correct answer in relation to god is we don't know if it exists and we have no way of knowing yet. Those that are certain are the ones to ignore.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-17   17:48:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Godwinson (#28)

LOL!

I don't give a rat's peetoot what you believe in gooberloserton.

You are just another arrogant fool out of billions of fools.

GOD isn't an intellectual discussion fool.

GOD IS.

MY "argument" fool, completely surrounds you fool.

Every breath that you take proves my point you gibbering fool.

EVERY human KNOWS that there is indeed a GOD.

Some, such as you who know life as only words, TRY to deny it.

I don't know or care why.

Do you think that the tide gives a damn what YOU believe fool?

The tides ARE.

FOOL.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-17   18:09:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Mad Dog (#29)

Hey, you idiot, your good friend yukon is a faggot. What are you going to do about that. Do you live with him or close by?

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Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-05-17   18:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Biff Tannen, yukon (#30)

LOL!

Hey loser, you little libTURD azzwipes have accused yukon of being a queer.

But it sure hasn't been established as an actual "point of fact" loser.

And loser, even IF yukon is queer, so what?

Are you a closet queer afraid of what talking to a queer will make YOU do loser?

Do you really think that I am as insecure in my person as YOU are loser?

I'm not.

Little boy, you are a cowardly, pitiful, little bottom feeding creep.

YOU are just herd dwelling gibbering libTURD filth.

WAVE to everybody you simpering libTURD azz licker!

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-17   18:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Mad Dog, biff tannen (#31)

Hey loser, you little libTURD azzwipes have accused yukon of being a queer.

But it sure hasn't been established as an actual "point of fact" loser.

md looks like you've been away for awhile, the question of yukon being gay or not was settled months ago.

The only question that's being debated right now is whether he's a PITCHER or a CATCHER. The poll results are currently leaning towards CATCHER

calcon  posted on  2011-05-17   18:54:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: calcon (#32)

I watched you people go insane over this imo specious crap, and it's one reason I haven't wasted my time here for a while.

I DON'T CARE what ANY FREE ADULT'S sexual preferences are, as long as they are LEGAL.

I object to special "rights" for each and every perversion.

I object to the specific behaviors.

BUT, in a FREE secular country, based on the rule of LAW, what consenting adults do to each other in private is NOT my concern.

Surely THEY each will answer for their own sins before the throne of the LORD, just as you and I will for OUR own sins.

I don't like bullies.

I hate herds.

I support the INDIVIDUAL in almost ALL cases.

I don't give a damn how the individual soul is wrapped.

I care WHAT that soul actually IS.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-17   19:13:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: yukon (#33)

I DON'T CARE what ANY FREE ADULT'S sexual preferences are, as long as they are LEGAL.

Hey buddy, it's OK!!!! mad dog wants to be your friend!!

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Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-05-17   19:23:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Biff Tannen (#34)

Hey buddy, it's OK!!!! mad dog wants to be your friend!!

Byteshredder used to ask Mad Dog if yukon with a small "y" was awake.

mininggold  posted on  2011-05-17   19:45:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: mininggold (#35)

lol

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Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-05-17   21:15:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: calcon (#32)

The only question that's being debated right now is whether he's a PITCHER or a CATCHER. The poll results are currently leaning towards CATCHER

Catcher. Definitely catcher.

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-05-18   1:28:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ferret Mike (#25)

I'm going to shock Mr. Stone here in that while I still mantain my Christian faith (in the Universalist, NOT the Fundie sense) I have recently turned Evolutionist due to my Internet studies of a group of fossil animals called Synapsids. (These are the class of reptile like mammal ancestors and the mammals themselves in the cladistic interpretation of the fossil record).

I found out that the Synapsida as a whole forms a remarkable set of transitions between their early "reptile" like forms and true mammals. (Even though it is still popular to call pre mammal Synapsids "mammal like reptiles" this is no longer a correct term because the Synapsida now is considered totally separate from the Diapsida or Sauropsida where modern reptiles and birds are placed cladistically. The current correct practice is to call mammals mammals and their ancesters either Pre Mammal Synapsids or simply Synapsids.)

After finding out that this set of transitional forms actually existed I began to wonder why creation "science" literature never mentioned the Synapsida. (Not exactly true, Dwaine Gish mentioned them ONCE in an online article and in his obsolite books about the fossil record (refering to the pre mammal forms incorrectly as "reptiles" both times) but not a word about them was mentioned in creation "science" circles after that. The donosaurs (Diapsida / Sauropsida) became and STAYED the be all and end all of extinct life forms in the fossil record in creation "science" circles after these two articles. I further found out that Robert Bakker the Paleontologist who helped to discover many of the secrets of dinosaur and pre mammal synapsid warm bloodedness was an ordained Christian Minister.

I would advise A K A stone to get out of the creationist books and take a good open minded look at the Synapsida as a whole (both Pre Mammal and Mammal) before trumpeting the "there are no transitional forms" screed again.

The creation "scientistists" are HIDING the Synapsida from their readers and their students and actually growing their noses (ie LYING) in a most ungodly way by so doing.

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Coral Snake  posted on  2011-05-18   1:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Biff Tannen (#34)

LOL!

Your continue to insist on showing the world your simian like reading comprehension and level of "intellectual honesty" you pitiful little libTURD cunt.

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-18   2:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: mininggold (#35)

LOL!

As usual you simpering libTURD cunt.

You LIE.

Byte never said such a thing about me, to anybody, you foul lying skank cunt.

Byteshredder is/was a decent and NORMAL person, and unlike you skank; America's, liberty's, and my friend.

Have another hit off that jug there skank!

The drunker you get the smarter you get!

LMAOAY

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Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-18   2:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Mad Dog (#40)

http://www.conservababes.com/

Byteshredder is ALS/Atomic Lib Smasher, who is named Cash Wakefield of Kansas who is the owner of the above forum.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-18   3:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Coral Snake (#38)

I would advise A K A stone to get out of the creationist books and take a good open minded look at the Synapsida as a whole (both Pre Mammal and Mammal) before trumpeting the "there are no transitional forms" screed again.

You've fallen into the goo that is evilution. I hope you recover your sanity.

I guess God was a liar when he was there was no death before sin.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-18   7:26:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Coral Snake (#38)

The creation "scientistists" are HIDING the Synapsida from their readers and their students and actually growing their noses (ie LYING) in a most ungodly way by so doing.

lol

http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i1/reptiles.asp

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-18   7:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Mad Dog (#33)

so after all that, what's your vote pitcher or catcher

calcon  posted on  2011-05-18   12:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: calcon (#44)

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight ...

I DON'T CARE.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-18   22:59:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Mad Dog (#33)

I watched you people go insane over this imo specious crap, and it's one reason I haven't wasted my time here for a while.

Looks like whatver treatment you got for your insanity has failed, you are still a ranting, foul-mouthed psychopath.

I especially enjoy seeing your hypocrisy on display for all to see.

In one post you quote scripture, in the next you come across as a hate-spewing, mentally unstable maniac.

“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe

Bill D Berger  posted on  2011-05-19   9:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Bill D Berger (#46)

phffffffffft

Bilge de Burger shouldn't you be busy gathering up some more children to torture and murder and then have sex with their dead bodies?

What's the matter you fucking piece of human garbage?

Haven't you finished your new bunker/playroom yet short arm?

Being a hypocrite is YOUR thing cunt face.

Why don't you seek help for your child molesting and murdering habits creep?

Spit ...

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Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-19   15:52:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Mad Dog (#47)

Being a hypocrite is YOUR thing cunt face.

Why don't you seek help for your child molesting and murdering habits creep?

Psychological projection or projection bias is a psychological defense mechanism where a person unconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, such as to other people. Thus, projection involves imagining or projecting the belief that others have those feelings.[1]

Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted unconscious impulses or desires without letting the conscious mind recognize them.

An example of this behavior might be blaming another for self failure. The mind may avoid the discomfort of consciously admitting personal faults by keeping those feelings unconscious, and by redirecting libidinal satisfaction by attaching, or "projecting," those same faults onto another person or object.

“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe

Bill D Berger  posted on  2011-05-21   12:21:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Bill D Berger (#46)

Looks like whatver treatment you got for your insanity has failed, you are still a ranting, foul-mouthed psychopath.

I've got that psycho on my bozo list which I use sparingly. He's special.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-05-21   12:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Bill D Berger (#48)

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Eat shit and die you vile steaming piece of human garbage.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-21   16:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Mad Dog (#50)

Eat shit and die you vile steaming piece of human garbage.

*yawns*

“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe

Bill D Berger  posted on  2011-05-22   13:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Fred Mertz (#49)

I've got that psycho on my bozo list which I use sparingly. He's special.

"Psycho" is too kind a word to describe him.

“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe

Bill D Berger  posted on  2011-05-22   13:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Bill D Berger (#51)

Eat shit and die you vile steaming piece of human garbage.

Eat SHIT, (YOU love it creep), and DIE, (slowly with as much pain and suffering as possible), you disgusting, vile, steaming, piece of human garbage.

Do the world a favor creep, DO it NOW.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-22   14:42:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Mad Dog (#53)

Seek professional help, psycho-freak.

“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe

Bill D Berger  posted on  2011-05-26   6:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Bill D Berger (#54)

Eat shit and die you vile steaming piece of human garbage.

Eat shit and die you vile steaming piece of human garbage.

Eat SHIT, (YOU love it creep),and DIE, (slowly with as much pain and suffering as possible), you disgusting, vile, steaming, piece of human garbage.

Do the world a favor creep, DO it NOW.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-26   19:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: A K A Stone (#42)

That is there was no HUMAN death (of the spirit) before sin.

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Coral Snake  posted on  2011-05-27   5:23:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Coral Snake (#56)

That is there was no HUMAN death (of the spirit) before sin.

Nope you are adding to scripture to make it fit with your new pet theory.

It says "no death". Nothing about the spirit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-27   7:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: A K A Stone (#57)

Let's look at the verse in question when God warned Adam about eating of the forbidden fruit and the consequences thereof.

Genesis 2:17

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, Thou shalt not eat of it: For in the day you eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Notice that the animals ARE NOT MENTIONED here. It is the fundies that add to the scripture when they add the animals and animal death to the curse put SPACIFICALLY ON MANKIND (Adam) for original sin. This curse was spiritual death which was lifted when Jesus went to the cross. This is why there is no longer an ETERNAL hell (even though there IS punishment of an "Ages of Ages" LIMITED duration for sins committed after original sin for people who have not become "born again" in this life. How long is that duration, until they become "born again" of course. We Christian Universalists simply believe that it is possible to become "born again" post mortum and that all will do so once they see the truth unhidden by power and money grabbing organized religion who depend upon the ETERNAL hell scare to keep their game going.

We know for certain that there had to be plant death before the fall otherwise the animals and man would not be able to eat. So yes, there was death before the fall and about 5,000,000,000 years of evolution too. I think you will have a very hard time debating me or Robert Bakker because we are NOT your usual Atheistic evolutionist opposition. Bakker is an ordianed minister and both of us are very up to snuff on the scriptures as well as the fossil record and science.

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Coral Snake  posted on  2011-05-28   1:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Coral Snake, A K A Stone (#58)

Hi guys!

Hey, can you help me out here? My very young son just asked me a question today I can't answer.

I was telling him about how Jesus died for us, and he said, "What's the big whoops dad?! He's resurrected, that's why we have Easter Egg Hunts!! He was only dead for a couple of days, and BAM! (he likes cooking shows) he's right back to life, so he's not dead, and he didn't do anything the rest of us don't have to do!"

So, is he dead or not?

And if he's not dead, he never died (permanently) for us, except for a couple of days, so why should I feel guilty?

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-05-28   2:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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