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Title: Was America So Bad On Sept 10, 2001?
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Published: May 8, 2011
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2011-05-08 01:09:22 by A K A Stone
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Was the country so bad on Sept 10, 2001 that we had to change so much.
They say they killed Bin Laden. Ok he's dead we agree.
How about we return back to normal.
Get rid of that evil patriot act.
Bring the troops home.
Repeal Homeland Security.
Fire the TSA.
Does anyone remember what freedom is anymore?
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Was the country so bad on Sept 10, 2001 that we had to change so much.
Monday September 10, 2001
Daily Show: Headlines - Attention: Deficit Disorder
According to a Labor Department report, the nation's unemployment rate has
soared, and President George W. Bush doesn't really have a plan.
Hope/Change/Ordering Killshots
#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Does anyone remember what freedom is anymore?
I used to around LF. But over the past few months the management here (I won't mention any names but their initials are: A K A Stone) has consistently deleted posts, changed thread topic titles, suspended good posters, banned good posters, ensured harm on good poster's LF standing, sought coalition with other posters of another website, timed good LF posters out, spied on good poster's IPs, stated good posters are malicious and harmful to LF because of cheap rumours, caused unnecessary grievance and destruction towards the free and responsible use of the Internet and beyond all of the above, deserves a suspension from management duties so that responsible posters, such as myself can fully achieve the broadcasting power that my pen wields.
#3. To: socalv8 (#1)
According to a Labor Department report, the nation's unemployment rate has soared, and President George W. Bush doesn't really have a plan.
Bush did have a plan - just different priorities.
September 1, 2001:
...boasting last week that he's happy the tax cut reduced the surplus to almost nothing, because it put a "fiscal straitjacket" on big congressional spenders, better known as Democrats. Rather astonishingly, the president admitted to what his enemies had long accused him of: achieving his anti-government agenda not with a forthright battle over individual social programs, but by reducing the government's ability to pay for them, forcing spending cuts in programs that might otherwise have popular support.
The trouble for Bush is that the biggest government spenders are Donald Rumsfeld and his friends at the Pentagon, who have already been promised an $18 billion boost by the president. Now that the tax cut has passed, the question is whether the president can afford his big-ticket programs for defense -- most notably his hugely expensive missile defense program -- as well as education. Democrats complain he can't, and that the tax cut also prevented action on a popular-with-voters proposal to develop a prescription-drug benefit for the elderly under Medicare.
www.salon.com/news/politics/feature/2001/09/01/budget
September 11 changed everything for Bush.
PRINCETON, NJ -- President George W. Bush's approval rating was at 51% in a Gallup Poll conducted Sept. 7-10 and completed just before the tragic events of Tuesday. This rating was down some from Bush's recent average, which had been in the mid-50% range. The poll also showed that overall satisfaction with the way things are going in the United States was down significantly and that most of Gallup's measures of the public's perception of the economy had reached new lows for recent years.
www.gallup.com/poll/4882/...ore-tuesdays-attacks.aspx
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
#4. To: lucysmom (#3)
Stewart and Libs were bitching about an unemployment rate UNDER 5%
#5. To: socalv8 (#4)
Stewart and Libs were bitching about an unemployment rate UNDER 5%
I think that some of that was due of the push from Bush for his amnesty due to 'low unemployment' and not enough cheap gardeners, and grape and lettuce pickers. 911 put it on hold.
#6. To: mininggold (#5)
Amnesty push came much later.
#7. To: A K A Stone (#6) (Edited)
Amnesty push came much later.
It came in the first year of his first term and then was tabled and restarted in the second term. Believe me, the local Chamber of Commerce was reving up the pressure.
#8. To: A K A Stone (#6)
Amnesty push came much later.
No, mininggold is right, you are wrong. After tax cuts, amnesty was next on Bush's agenda. 9/11 screwed it up for him.
#9. To: Skip Intro, A K A Stone (#8)
No, mininggold is right, you are wrong. After tax cuts, amnesty was next on Bush's agenda. 9/11 screwed it up for him.
Yep, that's the way I remember it too.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
#10. To: mininggold (#5)
Bush's low unemployment numbers were caused by being business friendly.
Obama is not business friendly. Unemployment has at least doubled.
Anyone hear JStewart boo hooing about unemployment anymore?
#11. To: socalv8 (#10)
Bush's low unemployment numbers were caused by being business friendly. Obama is not business friendly. Unemployment has at least doubled.
Which for some reason started in the Bush administration, because he wasn't business friendly either at least among the smaller ones that tend to be the job creators. His deregulation and then bailout of too large to fail corps and banks proved it.
#12. To: mininggold (#11)
bailout of too large to fail corps and banks proved it.
Can't argue that. I'm just struck by the lack of outrage from the left.
#13. To: socalv8 (#4)
Just a note here.
Like start noticing that Stewart Never can pronounce Arab/Persian names.
And laughs as he mauls them.
#14. To: socalv8 (#12)
Can't argue that. I'm just struck by the lack of outrage from the left.
You can only be outraged/cry so much.
Then it's commit suicide or wait to fight. As you laugh at the reality...
Sorta exactly like 4th/5th Gen Warfare.
See Raymond Davis ISI, Japan shutting down reactors, the MS River changing course for details....;}
#15. To: A K A Stone, socalv8, buckeroo, lucysmom, mininggold, Skip Intro, mcgowanjm (#0)
Was the country so bad on Sept 10, 2001 that we had to change so much.
America was great under Clinton but you Republicans could not stand it. So we got 8 years of fuck ups under Bush. Seriously, what the fuck was the hang up about Clinton? That he was once a campus lefty thus he was the Archie Bunker version of Satan that the old people grew up hating in the 60s and 70s? That is about as best I can figure it. You had an Archie Bunker demographic that saw Clinton as sort of the campus lefty that they grew to hate thanks to talk radio from that era onwards and that drove them crazy (Gasp! Clinton's wife kept her maiden name!!! That must make her some sort of Jesus hating commie!!!!, etc).
You right wingers ruined this country.
I remember after Bush won the talk of the day on forums was that the "adults" were in office and that the GOP would initiate policies that would make America so great. Thanks to the GOP we saw America near collapse and they refuse to accept how bad they ran the country and did their job or how their ideologically derived policies failed to produce results.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
#16. To: mcgowanjm (#14)
the MS River changing course for details....;}
Flat land rivers always create new oxbows especially at flood stage, the trouble is... no farmer wants that toxic, polluted, untreated water on their land even if it does supply some needed topsoil renewal.
#17. To: Godwinson (#15)
You right wingers ruined this country.
Move.
#18. To: mininggold (#16)
Flat land rivers always create new oxbows especially at flood stage, the trouble is... no farmer wants that toxic, polluted, untreated water on their land even if it does supply some needed topsoil renewal.
The will be the Ultimate Oxbow:
the Atchafalaya.
The MS from Baton Rouge to NO will become the 30% flow...
#19. To: Godwinson (#15)
That about sums it up.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
#20. To: mcgowanjm (#18)
The MS from Baton Rouge to NO will become the 30% flow...
Another inland waterway, the freight cos will love it.
#21. To: socalv8 (#17)
You right wing loons need to leave America or die off (judging from the GOP age demographic that is sooner rather than later), since you are the trash that ruined it. We correct thinkers will stay and fix your fuck ups.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
#22. To: lucysmom (#19)
I still want to know domestically what the Republicans had a problem with the Clinton era? It boils down tp crazy talk about murdering Vince Foster and that the Clintons had gay associates (though so did the Cheney's it turns out).
So what the fuck was the right's problems with the Clinton's? Do they honestly think the Bush era was better?
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
#23. To: Godwinson (#22)
So what the fuck was the right's problems with the Clinton's? Do they honestly think the Bush era was better?
According to Rush, Clinton tried to take over 15% of the economy with Hillarycare (Communist, don't you know).
Clinton did a better job achieving stated conservative goals (balanced budget for one) than Republicans, in effect challenging their raison d'etre.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
#24. To: Godwinson (#21)
You right wing loons need to leave America or die off
Who would pay the bills?
Y'all just spend. Can't tax community organizers, you know.
#25. To: socalv8 (#24) (Edited)
Who would pay the bills?
Judging by the way the States take in Federal revenues the Red States are the welfare sucking states. So having you Republicans die off would save the Blue States from supporting your worthless subsidized lives.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
#26. To: Godwinson (#25)
So having you Republicans die off
The left would become this guy in weeks. You're spenders, not earners.
#27. To: socalv8 (#26) (Edited)
Democrat voting states outperform Republican voting states.
Red States Feed at Federal Trough, Blue States Supply the Feed
The Tax Foundation has released a fascinating report showing which states benefit from federal tax and spending policies, and which states foot the bill.
The report shows that of the 32 states (and the District of Columbia) that are "winners" -- receiving more in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes -- 76% are Red States that voted for George Bush in 2000. Indeed, 17 of the 20 (85%) states receiving the most federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Red States.
States Receiving Least in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:
1. New Jersey ($0.62)
2. Connecticut ($0.64)
3. New Hampshire ($0.68)
4. Nevada ($0.73)
5. Illinois ($0.77)
6. Minnesota ($0.77)
7. Colorado ($0.79)
8. Massachusetts ($0.79)
9. California ($0.81)
10. New York ($0.81)
Two states -- Florida and Oregon (coincidentally, the two closest states in the 2000 Presidential election) -- received $1.00 in federal spending for each $1.00 in federal taxes paid.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
#28. To: Godwinson (#27)
Yes, California and NY are liberal spendthifts. You're silly.
#29. To: socalv8 (#28) (Edited)
Yes, California and NY are liberal spendthifts. You're silly.
Yes, I hate that they have to support rubes in Red states. I want that to end. I want the Red states to live as God intended as rural third world hell holes.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
#30. To: socalv8 (#4)
Stewart and Libs were bitching about an unemployment rate UNDER 5%
Yes, they were.
And now they tell us 9% is 'just fine' more or less.
If nothing else this past decade has outted the MSM for what they truly are, nothing but a maelstrom of leftward cheerleading...with so few exceptions.
Its kinda amazing when you think about it, how intolerant the Left is of the couple of outlets that don't march to the NYT's drumbeat daily.
Mr President, its 72 virgins, not 72 VERSIONS.
#31. To: socalv8 (#28)
NY sends more money out of state than it gets back.
America...My Kind Of Place...
"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush
#32. To: Godwinson (#29)
I want the Red states to live as God intended as rural third world hell holes.
Link? As in, Mein Kampf page number, please.
#33. To: Badeye (#30)
And now they tell us 9% is 'just fine' more or less.
Where's those casket photos and MSM Death Counts?
#34. To: socalv8, war (#32)
I did link, see above #27. war have you noticed when confronted with the fact that Democrat states pay more to the Fed than they get back and Republican voting states tend to get more money from the Fed then they pay out the right wing goosesteppers refuse to believe it? Why? Because all their lives they have bought the narrative that the Democrats are the parasites feeding off the Republican types when in reality the Republican base lives off the generosity of the Democrat voting public.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
#35. To: war (#31)
NY sends more money out of state than it gets back.
NJ hookers aside, why/how?
#36. To: Godwinson (#34)
I did link, see above #27
They get more $ because they voted Bush is hardly source worthy. Why?
#37. To: socalv8 (#35)
NY is a wealthy state...
America...My Kind Of Place...
"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush
#38. To: war (#37)
NY is a wealthy state...
Therefore Constitutional. 16th Amendment? Last time you hypnotized into being wrong.
#39. To: Godwinson (#34)
Someone jut told me you hate the Constitution.
#40. To: socalv8 (#38)
You seem to have lost the point.
NY, a blue state, sends more tax dollars to DC than it gets back.
America...My Kind Of Place...
"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush
#41. To: socalv8 (#33)
Where's those casket photos and MSM Death Counts?
Or the crowds screaming 'no blood for oil'....
Mr President, its 72 virgins, not 72 VERSIONS.
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