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Title: The Truth and Ideology
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FNC/O'Reilly
URL Source: http://video.foxnews.com/v/4678067/ ... and-ideology?playlist_id=86934
Published: May 5, 2011
Author: Bill O'Reilly
Post Date: 2011-05-05 11:06:43 by Badeye
Keywords: None
Views: 6631
Comments: 22
Follow the link, watch the video.
Yesterday, our resident ideology based liberal kooks claimed Rumsfeld said 'enhanced interrogation' didn't produce valuable information in the war on terror, specifically leading to the killing of bin Laden.
Rumsfeld last night on live television totally eviscerated that bullshit.
Moral of the story: If you rely on Soro's funded political spin outlets, you look ridiculous at best, a total dumbass or worse.
Enjoy that crow, GO65 and company. I suggest washing in down with a tall glass of Shut the Fuck Up.
(grin)
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No Rumsfield there, just BO blowing hot air.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
I recall a re-run of MASH I saw where this uber right winger named Colonel Flagg...
Godwinson posted on 2011-02-23 11:47:32 ET
http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18011&Disp=46#C46
#2. To: Badeye (#0)
Didn't Rummie also say he knew exactly where Iraq's WMD are? He has zero credibility.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
#3. To: Badeye (#0)
Yesterday, our resident ideology based liberal kooks claimed Rumsfeld said 'enhanced interrogation' didn't produce valuable information
Waterboarding stopped in 2003. Ghul was captured in 2004. What Rumsfeld actually said was that "waterboarding" didn't lead to the information.
So, as usual, O'Reilly is lying about what was said.
...which also explains your attraction...
America...My Kind Of Place...
#4. To: war (#3)
The waterboarding did lead to courier's nom de guerre, which was probably all KSM knew.
Ghul provided yet another piece of the puzzle through further EIT.
Wouldn't it be easier to stop all this tap dancing and just admit Bush was right and you and fellow moonbats were full of shit all along?
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#5. To: no gnu taxes (#4)
The waterboarding did lead to courier's nom de guerre, which was probably all KSM knew.
Lie.
America...My Kind Of Place...
#6. To: war (#5)
KSM did give up the couriers code name through waterboarding; that is a fact.
Whether he knew more than that is just speculation. But it would make sense if that's all he needed to know. Providing information only on a need to know basis is of paramount importance for any covert organization.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#7. To: no gnu taxes (#6)
KSM did give up the couriers code name through waterboarding; that is a fact.
Lie.
America...My Kind Of Place...
#8. To: war (#7)
Current and former U.S. officials say that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, provided the nom de guerre of one of bin Laden’s most trusted aides.
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/20110502first_strands_on_bin_laden_gathered_in_cia_prison/
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#9. To: no gnu taxes (#8)
So KSM giving a false name, preumably in answer to a question about a person whose duties were known but not his name, was how we found out the real name.
Neat trick.
[snicker]
America...My Kind Of Place...
#10. To: no gnu taxes (#4)
Wouldn't it be easier to stop all this tap dancing and just admit Bush was right and you and fellow moonbats were full of shit all along?
Would members of an administration that manipulated facts to justify going to war also misrepresent facts to justify torture?
Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told Fox News’s Sean Hannity that the Obama administration would not have had “the kinds of intelligence that was critically important,” but for the aggressive efforts of the Bush administration.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
#11. To: lucysmom (#10)
Would members of an administration that manipulated facts to justify going to war
An old canard that's been repeatedly debunked:
The CIA and most other US intelligence agencies believed before the war that Saddam had stocks of biological and chemical weapons, was actively working on nuclear weapons and "probably" would have a nuclear weapon before the end of this decade. That faulty intelligence was shared with Congress – along with multiple mentions of some doubts within the intelligence community – in a formal National Intelligence Estimate just prior to the Senate and House votes to authorize the use of force against Iraq.
No hard evidence has surfaced to support claims that Bush somehow manipulated the findings of intelligence analysts. In fact, two bipartisan investigations probed for such evidence and said they found none.
http://factcheck.org/article358.html
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#12. To: no gnu taxes (#11)
No hard evidence has surfaced to support claims that Bush somehow manipulated the findings of intelligence analysts. In fact, two bipartisan investigations probed for such evidence and said they found none.
Right, the best the Bush administration could do was claim ignorance.
Wasn't evidence presented in Powell's speech to the UN almost immediately debunked? What did UN weapons inspectors find?
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
#13. To: lucysmom (#12)
As has been pointed out to you, 2 bipartisan investigations have found that he did not manipulate intelligence.
Take it up with these folks
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#14. To: Godwinson (#2)
Didn't Rummie also say he knew exactly where Iraq's WMD are? He has zero credibility.
No, he never said he knew 'exactly where they are'.
He agreed, however, with John Kerry, John Edwards, Al Gore, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Dick Durbin, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer, George Tenet, Joe Leiberman, Jay Rockefeller, Barney Frank,Joe Biden, Egypt, Libya, Iran, Germany, France, Great Britain, Spain, Japan, China, Russia, Mexico, Brazil, Jordan, Israel, Italy, Greece, South Korean, the Kurds that Saddam had Weapons of Mass Destruction.
I guess all those Democrats and nations also have 'zero credibility' in your view? Right? RIGHT?
Or are you just an average liberal hypocrite?
Choice is yours. Choose wisely....
bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'
#15. To: lucysmom (#12)
Lucy,
Why did Bill Clinton stated 'My greatest fear as our troops approached Baghdad was they would be hit with WMD's'?
Was Clinton in on this 'conspiracy'?
bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'
#16. To: Badeye (#14)
No, he never said he knew 'exactly where they are'.
Unsurprisingly, that's a lie.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?
SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
America...My Kind Of Place...
"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush
#17. To: Badeye (#14)
I guess all those Democrats and nations also have 'zero credibility' in your view? Right? RIGHT?
Given that they were all fed the same BS intelligence, why is this surprising?
America...My Kind Of Place...
"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush
#18. To: Badeye, Godwinson (#14)
Didn't Rummie also say he knew exactly where Iraq's WMD are? He has zero credibility.No, he never said he knew 'exactly where they are'.
Rumsfeld, May 30, 2003: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
#19. To: war (#16)
SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
Bears repeating, and I did.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
#20. To: lucysmom (#19)
Good girl...
America...My Kind Of Place...
"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush
#21. To: lucysmom (#18)
No, he never said he knew 'exactly where they are'.
I'm not surprised uber liberals think pointing to ALL POINTS on a compass is 'specific'.
Hell, thats their view on just about every topic (laughing)
bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'
#22. To: lucysmom (#19)
No, he never said he knew 'exactly where they are'.
I'm not surprised uber liberals think pointing to ALL POINTS on a compass is 'specific'.
Hell, thats their view on just about every topic (laughing)
bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'
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