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User Submitted Article Title: About That Birth Certificate #3. To: packrat1145 (#0) From what a Pastor friend, whose wife and son were both born in Hawaii, U K L Lee is the signature on both his wife's and his son's birth certificate. I have not asked to see them, nor will I, for I have no reason to not believe him. BobCeleste posted on 2011-05-01 7:18:22 ET Reply Trace Poster Comment: Well, what do you know. Bob - no Obama fan he - confirms that there really was a ukulele signing birth certificates in 1961. Another gotcha goes down the drain. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 48. #15. To: Skip Intro (#0) (Edited) someone on one of the freeper threads posted a scan of his own Hawaiian BC showing the same U K L Lee's signature. He must of course be an Obama plant.
#19. To: go65, Skip Intro (#15) someone on one of the freeper threads posted a scan of his own Hawaiian BC showing the same U K L Lee's signature. And will you both also take that digital image as gospel, without any other verification? Just because something is posted on the internet, doesn't mean it's true. If I scanned Obama's BC, edited the text, took a photo of it and posted it here, would you believe it too? If I did it 100 times, all with different info, would that be evidence of anything?
#20. To: We The People (#19) You aren't the State of Hawaii. You do know that the State of Hawaii has stated that it provided this.
#22. To: war (#20) You do know that the State of Hawaii has stated that it provided this. No, they did not. They stated that they provided Obama's BC to Obama, then Obama provided us an easily faked digital image via the White House website. It could be real and contain true and factual information, then again, it could contain anything the White House wanted it to contain.
#24. To: We The People (#22) I really don't know what to tell you any more, WTP. You're a good guy. I can't buy in to the fact that you're not getting this.
#27. To: war, Skip Intro (#24) (Edited) I really don't know what to tell you any more, WTP. You're a good guy. I can't buy in to the fact that you're not getting this. I'm not saying that O wasn't born in Hawaii, or that his BC is not factual. I'm simply stating that government lies more than it tells the truth, no matter which side of the aisle has control at the time, and if I have reservations, you just need to understand that is why. I am extremely skeptical of anything that comes from the government and you know that we all have very good reason for feeling that way. What kills me is folks like you or Skip that automatically believe and don't stop to question what you're told, no matter how shaky the info seems. Believe it or not, I could be convinced, but you'll have to do more and better than simply repeating what government or Fox News has already told me and that would be highly unlikely.
#31. To: We The People (#27) I've learned, with age, what SHOULD be questioned. Questioning everything simply makes me a cynic. There is no "maybe" in this case. He was born in Hawaii.
#32. To: war (#31) There is no "maybe" in this case. He was born in Hawaii. He may very well have been. But you are believing this as fact, and the only evidence that you have for believing this is two digital images posted on the internet and the word of some people from Hawaii. I will keep an open mind and even if I go to my death without believing one way or another, my soul will not be troubled for even a second over it.
#34. To: We The People (#32) That is not the only fact. he lived in Hawaii. He graduated HS in Hawaii. He had family in Hawaii. His mother and father lived in Hawaii. There is no evidence that his mother ever visited Kenya.
#36. To: war (#34) There is no evidence that his mother ever visited Kenya. But wait....there's another digital image of a BC that says he was born in Kenya. How do you know which one, if either, is real? Short answer, you don't. You can only believe, one way or the other, or you can believe both are fake. His grandmother even said he was born in Kenya, but I don't automatically believe that either.
#37. To: war (#36) Bedtime for me. Have a great night.
#40. To: We The People (#37) Nah...it sucks...been arranging travel...Mom had a stroke...heading the UP of Michigan tomorrow...
#41. To: war (#40) Mom had a stroke.. Sorry to hear that. Good luck to both of you.
#48. To: Skip Intro, Ferret Mike, lucysmom (#41) Thannks...I'm in MSP waiting for my flight over to Marquette and was talking to my sister..."Mom's in a highly agitated state"...chuckles...that's her...tough old bird fighting it...
Replies to Comment # 48. Thannks...I'm in MSP waiting for my flight over to Marquette and was talking to my sister..."Mom's in a highly agitated state"...chuckles...that's her...tough old bird fighting it... God bless her...such an admirable attribute especially since strokes and their effects are very treatable. My Mom's intentionally trying to become the world's healthiest bed ridden invalid.
#50. To: war (#48) Thannks...I'm in MSP waiting for my flight over to Marquette and was talking to my sister.. I hope things turn out well for your mom.
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