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User Submitted Article Title: About That Birth Certificate #3. To: packrat1145 (#0) From what a Pastor friend, whose wife and son were both born in Hawaii, U K L Lee is the signature on both his wife's and his son's birth certificate. I have not asked to see them, nor will I, for I have no reason to not believe him. BobCeleste posted on 2011-05-01 7:18:22 ET Reply Trace Poster Comment: Well, what do you know. Bob - no Obama fan he - confirms that there really was a ukulele signing birth certificates in 1961. Another gotcha goes down the drain. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-15) not displayed.
He must of course be an Obama plant. Don't you know, Obama has the entire government working on this coverup? "I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush #17. To: go65 (#15) I still don't see a raised seal.
#18. To: Skip Intro (#16) He doesn't need the whole government. He has you dummies proclaiming his messiah status to the world.
#19. To: go65, Skip Intro (#15) someone on one of the freeper threads posted a scan of his own Hawaiian BC showing the same U K L Lee's signature. And will you both also take that digital image as gospel, without any other verification? Just because something is posted on the internet, doesn't mean it's true. If I scanned Obama's BC, edited the text, took a photo of it and posted it here, would you believe it too? If I did it 100 times, all with different info, would that be evidence of anything?
#20. To: We The People (#19) You aren't the State of Hawaii. You do know that the State of Hawaii has stated that it provided this. America...My Kind Of Place... #21. To: war (#20) You do know that the State of Hawaii has stated that it provided this. That doesn't matter. Don't you know that they're in on it?
Yeah, they are. Pass it on. "I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush #22. To: war (#20) You do know that the State of Hawaii has stated that it provided this. No, they did not. They stated that they provided Obama's BC to Obama, then Obama provided us an easily faked digital image via the White House website. It could be real and contain true and factual information, then again, it could contain anything the White House wanted it to contain.
#23. To: We The People (#22) Hawaii has stated that the Long Form BC confirmed he was born in Hawaii. On several occasions it has done so. America...My Kind Of Place... #24. To: We The People (#22) I really don't know what to tell you any more, WTP. You're a good guy. I can't buy in to the fact that you're not getting this. America...My Kind Of Place... #25. To: war (#23) Hawaii has stated that the Long Form BC confirmed he was born in Hawaii. On several occasions it has done so. You know that an island can't talk. :p One person, iirc, stated that she had seen Obama's BC and verified, twice, that it existed and stated that Obama was born in Hawaii.
#26. To: We The People (#25) I am aware of four... America...My Kind Of Place... #27. To: war, Skip Intro (#24) (Edited) I really don't know what to tell you any more, WTP. You're a good guy. I can't buy in to the fact that you're not getting this. I'm not saying that O wasn't born in Hawaii, or that his BC is not factual. I'm simply stating that government lies more than it tells the truth, no matter which side of the aisle has control at the time, and if I have reservations, you just need to understand that is why. I am extremely skeptical of anything that comes from the government and you know that we all have very good reason for feeling that way. What kills me is folks like you or Skip that automatically believe and don't stop to question what you're told, no matter how shaky the info seems. Believe it or not, I could be convinced, but you'll have to do more and better than simply repeating what government or Fox News has already told me and that would be highly unlikely.
#28. To: war, We The People (#24) I can't buy in to the fact that you're not getting this. What's not to get? Duh! "Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs. #29. To: We The People (#19) If I did it 100 times, all with different info, would that be evidence of anything? how do I know that you even exist and aren't a script that A K A wrote? "Thats because your basically and idiot." #30. To: go65 (#29) how do I know that you even exist and aren't a script that A K A wrote? LOL! See!?!
#31. To: We The People (#27) I've learned, with age, what SHOULD be questioned. Questioning everything simply makes me a cynic. There is no "maybe" in this case. He was born in Hawaii. America...My Kind Of Place... #32. To: war (#31) There is no "maybe" in this case. He was born in Hawaii. He may very well have been. But you are believing this as fact, and the only evidence that you have for believing this is two digital images posted on the internet and the word of some people from Hawaii. I will keep an open mind and even if I go to my death without believing one way or another, my soul will not be troubled for even a second over it.
#33. To: war (#31) (Edited) Questioning everything simply makes me a cynic. I disagree. We should question everything. And especially anything that comes from government.
#34. To: We The People (#32) That is not the only fact. he lived in Hawaii. He graduated HS in Hawaii. He had family in Hawaii. His mother and father lived in Hawaii. There is no evidence that his mother ever visited Kenya. America...My Kind Of Place... #35. To: war (#31) I've learned, with age, what SHOULD be questioned. And I'm starting to think that would be anything Republican and nothing Democrat. LOL!
#36. To: war (#34) There is no evidence that his mother ever visited Kenya. But wait....there's another digital image of a BC that says he was born in Kenya. How do you know which one, if either, is real? Short answer, you don't. You can only believe, one way or the other, or you can believe both are fake. His grandmother even said he was born in Kenya, but I don't automatically believe that either.
#37. To: war (#36) Bedtime for me. Have a great night.
#38. To: We The People (#36) But wait....there's another digital image of a BC that says he was born in Kenya. I'm so glad you asked. The Post and Email (pro birther all the way, FYI) debunked that one years ago. Even Mario Apuzzo didn't fall for it. Of course the idiots Magician at LP and Murron here did. http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/19/the-blaine-document/ So I guess that leaves us with the one certified as real by the State of Hawaii. If you still think what Obama produced isn't the same as what Hawaii certified then you have to explain why the Hawaiian officials haven't said a word about it. "I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush #39. To: We The People (#36) But wait....there's another digital image of a BC that says he was born in Kenya. Because that was not the form used to register a foreign birth. Oopsie... America...My Kind Of Place... #40. To: We The People (#37) Nah...it sucks...been arranging travel...Mom had a stroke...heading the UP of Michigan tomorrow... America...My Kind Of Place... #41. To: war (#40) Mom had a stroke.. Sorry to hear that. Good luck to both of you. "I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush #42. To: war (#40) My thoughts are with you and her, I hope she pulls through this, and is around for many more happy years. ![]() #43. To: war (#40) Mom had a stroke...heading the UP of Michigan tomorrow... My thoughts and prayers go with you. The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher #44. To: Rudgear (#17) I still don't see a raised seal If you look closely on the right side of the BC you can see it, Honolulu, Hawaii is right in the middle of it..... It's not a sticker but one of those stamp things they use with raised letters...... Like the one they use for notarizing something...... "I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning (_*_) #45. To: Skip Intro (#0) From personal experience, I would take anything Bob says, at LP, with a grain of salt.
#46. To: diva betsy ross (#45) From personal experience, I would take anything Bob says, at LP, with a grain of salt. Well, we don't have to because others have shown their BCs with the same signature. "I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush #47. To: Skip Intro (#46) Well it doesn't matter because Obama is either: A) perpetuating a hoax B) Wants us to believe he is perpetuating a hoax. Everything with this guy has to be a mindf**k. And either of those things makes him the biggest scumbag in the history of the Country. He is not playing high shcool games- he is the most power man in the world- and the biggest jerk to walk the face of the Earth for throwing all this nonsense out into our society.
#48. To: Skip Intro, Ferret Mike, lucysmom (#41) Thannks...I'm in MSP waiting for my flight over to Marquette and was talking to my sister..."Mom's in a highly agitated state"...chuckles...that's her...tough old bird fighting it... America...My Kind Of Place... #49. To: war (#48) Thannks...I'm in MSP waiting for my flight over to Marquette and was talking to my sister..."Mom's in a highly agitated state"...chuckles...that's her...tough old bird fighting it... God bless her...such an admirable attribute especially since strokes and their effects are very treatable. My Mom's intentionally trying to become the world's healthiest bed ridden invalid. "http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi" #50. To: war (#48) Thannks...I'm in MSP waiting for my flight over to Marquette and was talking to my sister.. I hope things turn out well for your mom.
#51. To: Fred Mertz (#50) Hmmm. Me too. I hear you knockin...go back where you been.... #52. To: war (#40) Nah...it sucks...been arranging travel...Mom had a stroke...heading the UP of Michigan tomorrow... Sorry to hear that. Hope things turn out well. At least you're heading to some beautiful country, even if the circumstances aren't the best.
#53. To: We The People (#52) (Edited) She's gone from wholly unresponsive to hand squeezing and nodding...she still can't open her eyes or do anything approaching speech...but she's communicating now... Mom's a tough old bird... America...My Kind Of Place... #54. To: We The People (#52) And yea...I love the UP... America...My Kind Of Place... #55. To: Badeye Fred Mertz (#51) Thanks Badeye...Fred... America...My Kind Of Place... #56. To: war (#55) Yes. Good luck.
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