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Title: PDF Layers in Obama’s Birth Certificate
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URL Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/corne ... th-certificate-nathan-goulding
Published: Apr 28, 2011
Author: Nathan Goulding
Post Date: 2011-04-28 14:51:43 by Skip Intro
Keywords: None
Views: 44870
Comments: 56

We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.

The PDF is composed of multiple images. That’s correct. Using a photo editor or PDF viewer of your choice, you can extract this image data, view it, hide it, etc. But these layers, as they’re being called, aren’t layers in the traditional photo-editing sense of the word. They are, quite literally, pieces of image data that have been positioned in a PDF container. They appear as text but also contain glyphs, dots, lines, boxes, squiggles, and random garbage. They’re not combined or merged in any way. Quite simply, they look like they were created programmatically, not by a human.

What’s plausible is that somewhere along the way — from the scanning device to the PDF-creation software, both of which can perform OCR (optical character recognition) — these partial/pseudo-text images were created and saved. What’s not plausible is that the government spent all this time manufacturing Obama’s birth certificate only to commit the laughably rookie mistake of exporting the layers from Photoshop, or whatever photo editing software they are meant to have used. It’s likely that whoever scanned the birth certificate in Hawaii forgot to turn off the OCR setting on the scanner. Let’s leave it at that.

UPDATE: I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.


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See, as I pointed out numerous times yesterday, layers are a natural part of a PDF document. You read it here first.

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#1. To: Skip Intro (#0)

Thanks. I was waiting for the other shoe to drop.

The layers thing is a pathetic attempt to baffle with bullshit when the invented facts get melted away by the light of day of a long form birth certificate release.

No surprise there.

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   14:58:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ferret Mike (#1)

The layers thing is a pathetic attempt to baffle with bullshit when the invented facts get melted away by the light of day of a long form birth certificate release.

No surprise there.

The bullshit is still going strong over at the home site of the world's only talking mouse.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-28   15:02:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike (#1)

What’s not plausible is that the government spent all this time manufacturing Obama’s birth certificate only to commit the laughably rookie mistake of exporting the layers from Photoshop, or whatever photo editing software they are meant to have used

Damn, there goes Goldi's brilliant theory, blown all to hell.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-28   15:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Skip Intro (#0) (Edited)

PDF Layers in Obama’s Birth Certificate

This is complete horse shit designed to bamboozle people who don't know squat about computers.

The birth certificate was posted as a .jpg file. Jpeg is a raster graphics format comprised on nothing more than a rectangular grid of pixels (points of color). There isn't any other information in the file.

You cannot reconstruct Adobe Photoshop or Illustrator layes from a .jpg file.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-28   15:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: jwpegler (#4)

The birth certificate was posted as a .jpg file.

No it wasn't. I downloaded it myself. It was a PDF file. You can download it yourself today. It will still be a PDF file.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-28   15:11:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Skip Intro (#5)

Show me where. The file I downloaded was a .jpg file.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-28   15:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Skip Intro (#5)

Ok, I found it. It's not a PDF document. The took some type of raster image (bitmap, jpeg, etc) and converted it to a PDF format.

There is no other information in the document.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-28   15:18:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Skip Intro (#3)

True. It's one thing to get Dan Rather to screw up because he and his people did not analyze the documents that got him in trouble for word wrapping technology what was not widely used what the alleged documents were allegedly made, it's another to think people don't know what a PDF file is and how that format works.

They are hoping some more attempts at creative lying with bull shit tactics will word to counter the light of day.

But unfortunately for them, people do know and understand explanations about how software works, and the long form still exists and is safely protected from these people who would destroy it to try to make their fairy tales seem like reality where it belongs, in a document vault where real adults can access it as they need it.

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   15:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler (#7)

Ok, I found it. It's not a PDF document. The took some type of raster image (bitmap, jpeg, etc) and converted it to a PDF format.

Yes, and that makes what you're looking at a PDF document, layers and all.

Really. I made a grocery list yesterday in plain text and converted it to a PDF.

Guess what? It had layers.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-28   15:19:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ferret Mike (#8)

As I posted somewhere else, Obama has access to the services of the US Mint. If he wanted to invent a perfect BC he certainly could have done it.

So, playing devils advocate, let's say it is a fake. No one will ever be able to tell, certainly not from a digital image loaded on their computer.

Of course, there's always the simple explanation that this really is a certified copy of the records from Hawaii, but what's the fun in that?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-28   15:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Skip Intro (#9)

Plain text and vector images are completely different than raster images. This came from a flat raster image containing nothing but pixels.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-28   15:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: jwpegler (#11)

This came from a flat raster image containing nothing but pixels.

You're completely missing the point, but that's your problem, not mine.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-28   15:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Skip Intro (#9)

Guess what? It had layers.

So PDFs are like Ogres? (I assume you've seen Shrek)

Anyway, you keep making the mistake of assuming that you can reason with the insane, no amount of evidence will convince some folks that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-04-28   15:26:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: jwpegler, Skip Intor, A K A Stone (#6)

I did as the fellow on the video who discovered this hoax ask, I went straight to whitehouse.gov and used their cope of the BC, not anyone else. I downloaded it to my PC, then transfered it to my adobe.

Everything he said about this copy was true, it has been tampered with, it has many, many layers added to it, you can watch with your own eyes, lines and layers of answers disappear. This document was built with many layers. I would not have believe it till I saw it with my own eyes and with the BC that came straight from the WH. jmho!

Murron  posted on  2011-04-28   15:32:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Skip Intro (#10)

"Of course, there's always the simple explanation that this really is a certified copy of the records from Hawaii, but what's the fun in that?"

This is why it was dangerous for them to assume President Obama would be willing to ignore the birfer fairy tale until election season.

You knew the metaphoric gun was loaded and the document a real one. It was dumb to taunt the people holding it.

Now they are left with the non-existing hope people don't understand how a common piece of software works. They are on shaky ground and look more and more pathetic every day.

And for this they only have themselves to blame.

They should of heeded the old saying about the need to be careful about the tiger you try to ride, because you could wind up in it's belly quite easily.

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   15:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Skip Intro (#0)

We looked into it and dismissed it.

Ain't THAT a surprise...

< /sarc >

Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum.

"You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai"

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-04-28   15:41:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Skip Intro (#0)

The only thing more ridiculous than the birthers are those of you fixated with websites you've been banned from.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-28   15:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Badeye (#17)

The simple truth about Café Paranoia is that if JimRob does not ban you, that is far more disturbing then being banned.

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   15:51:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Skip Intro (#12)

If everyone will remember, the Republicans tried to discredit Obama from day one when they claimed he wasn't the real President because Roberts flubbed the swearing in. There is a germ in the Conservative mind to worship authority..Œ79; They also link the government with Religion. This goes all the way back to the time of "King and Country" The Republicans KNOW THIS which is why they needed to give permission to their followers to go against the President and not be considered "Disloyal".

SpitfireOFatj51 minutes ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ba9KRIIik

Just wanted to share with you a great post from the You Tube page with this video. It's a keeper.

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   16:01:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ferret Mike (#19)

Why do you and skippy need to keep reassuring yourselves layers don't indicate forgery? Sort of like whistling past the graveyard, n'est ce pas? You are a huge disappointment, Mike.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-04-28   16:04:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rudgear (#20)

--

Orly Taitz Translates a Traditional Russian Song

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   16:09:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Badeye (#17)

The only thing more ridiculous than the birthers are those of you fixated with websites you've been banned from.

There will always be those interested in this, but like you, the biggest majority know what it's going to take to defeat him, the main focus has not been lost, and he will be defeated.

Murron  posted on  2011-04-28   16:10:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

Only those on the uber left, or those banned think that, Mike.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-28   16:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Rudgear (#20)

Il n'a jamais vrai, mec.

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   16:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Murron (#22)

Yep.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-28   16:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Skip Intro (#9)

High, I am Orly Taitz, and I would like to tell crazy producer who tight shot my finger instead of precious document of selecting service I have important job of making Michele Bachman look sane.

Now I go file suit, thank you.

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   16:22:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Murron (#22)

It is ridiculous to assume that whoever went to the trouble of layering the BC for whatever reason was so stupid that they forgot to merge the layers is ridiculous. What probably happened is someone forgot to turn off the OCR setting on the scanner.

But you are going to believe what you want to believe, so thanks for demonstrating you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time ;-)

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   16:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ferret Mike (#26)

Whatever you do, Mike, don't educate yourself by watching. Remain in proud ignorance to defend the indefensible.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-04-28   16:40:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Rudgear (#28)

Type a character or two before cut and pasting the video embed and you will avoid those sloppy ghost frams above the video. You're welcome. ;-D

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   16:42:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: go65 (#13)

Anyway, you keep making the mistake of assuming that you can reason with the insane, no amount of evidence will convince some folks that Obama was born in Hawaii.

"Some silly claims are being made by a few folks that the document is a fake. All I can say is that such folks are too far down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories to be saved. They are beyond convincing, and it’s not worth trying." - Doc Conspiracy

This is very good advice from the Doc, and I'm going to take it. I just hope they make this the Number One issue in 2012.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-28   18:49:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Rudgear (#20)

Why do you and skippy need to keep reassuring yourselves layers don't indicate forgery?

What about the state officials in Hawaii and they too in this "forgery" conspiracy?

NewsJunky  posted on  2011-04-28   20:15:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Rudgear (#28)

I don't know why, but the document has obviously been altered. Zoom your PDF reader in on the top right where it shows "61 10641" and you would have to be blind not to see the last digit was pasted into the image. It has pixelation typical of a JPG image that the majority of the image doesn't have. There is at least one other occurrence of this in the document.

Abcdefg  posted on  2011-04-28   22:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: NewsJunky (#31) (Edited)

Find the forger and you'll find your answer. Or maybe you don't want an answer.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-04-28   22:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Abcdefg (#32)

The question never asked is: why create a PDF file in the first place? Just do a HiRes scan from Hawaii to the White House web page.

The only reason to make it a PDF document is so it can be manipulated, as you noticed.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-04-28   22:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Rudgear (#34)

It doesn't have to be in PDF format to be manipulated. But whoever did it could have done a much better job. This is way too obvious.

Abcdefg  posted on  2011-04-28   22:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Abcdefg (#35)

A simple, one dimensional scan tampered with would have been more obvious. Too many people are watching. Why make the same obvious errors, forgery after forgery? Not even they're that weak.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-04-28   22:50:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Skip Intro (#30)

Here is an interpretation of the birfer mindset from DU. ;-)

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   22:50:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ferret Mike (#37)

Keep obfuscating, trusty little water carrier. Now you rely on Dummies United for 'proof'.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-04-28   22:55:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: go65 (#13)

So PDFs are like Ogres? (I assume you've seen Shrek)

No, I haven't.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-04-28   23:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Ferret Mike (#15)

They should of heeded...

They should have heeded...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-04-28   23:15:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

...that is far more disturbing then being banned.

...that is far more disturbing than being banned.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-04-28   23:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Rudgear (#38) (Edited)

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   23:26:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Ferret Mike (#42)

Hilarious. I like the cigarette effect 'cuz that's how it was sometimes in the good old days.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-04-28   23:33:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Fred Mertz (#41) (Edited)

http://www.englishgrammarsecrets.com/shouldhave/menu.php

From thei site instructing the nuances of English: We can use 'should have' to talk about past events that did not happen.

These two infinatives, 'to be' and 'to have' are always a headache for many people. Learning the irregular verbs that have etre (to be) and avoir (to have) in French was my first headache when learning that language. But thanks anyway Fred. ;-)

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   23:37:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Fred Mertz (#43)

"Hilarious. I like the cigarette effect 'cuz that's how it was sometimes in the good old days."

Heh, thanks I didn't notice that. Good eye for detail. ;-)

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   23:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Fred Mertz (#43)

You don't see as many calenders anymore either. I myself look at the desktop of any computer I have with me to check the date, so I know why.

My nephew gave me a funny look a few years ago when I gave him a wristwatch as a present as I noticed he never wore one.

Soon after I was politely told by my sister (his Mom) that the cell phone generation seldom does anymore.

We're getting old Fred. ;-D

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   23:42:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Ferret Mike (#46)

Soon after I was politely told by my sister (his Mom) that the cell phone generation seldom does anymore.

I hope you told your nephew that his phone is a goobermint tracking and listening device in addition to being a data collection device.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-04-28   23:48:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Fred Mertz (#47) (Edited)

I did when he asked why I never use the Android I got last December as a gift. He noticed I have only a cheap Cricket phone I have set on 'pay-go,' and I that I rarely have it with me.

I did train him not to bother sending any text messaged though. I refuse to use that phone function. I miss the pay phone age. I can't stand cell phones.

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-28   23:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Ferret Mike (#48)

I miss the pay phone age. I can't stand cell phones.

Pay phones? Now that you mention it...

I'll be on the lookout in the coming days for one.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-04-29   0:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Rudgear (#34)

The question never asked is: why create a PDF file in the first place? Just do a HiRes scan from Hawaii to the White House web page.

Functionality.

Generally there is no point in creating a file with more information than the output device can reproduce.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-29   1:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Ferret Mike, skip intro, fred mertz, war, badeye (#37)

Here is an interpretation of the birfer mindset from DU. ;-)

the few nuts still buying into conspiracy theories are called the "after-birthers" now.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-04-29   9:27:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: go65 (#51)

I like it! However, there are more than a few nuts remaining.

As a matter of fact I don't know any one of the after-birfers whose mind was changed by the recently released COLB.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-04-29   9:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Rudgear (#34)

You're a fucking idiot, Rudy.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-29   9:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: go65 (#51)

the few nuts still buying into conspiracy theories are called the "after-birthers" now.

Hillary and Bill Clinton, Chris Matthews....yep, except I viewed them as such long before they went 'birther'.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-29   10:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Ferret Mike (#27) (Edited)

But you are going to believe what you want to believe, so thanks for demonstrating you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time ;-)

Having the intellect of a slug on drugs doesn't bother you, does it? I've never posted anywhere that I 'believe' any of this, I post what's being reported for those who are interested in it, but if it upsets you so much, then I'ved killed two birds with one stone....

Murron  posted on  2011-04-29   10:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Murron (#55)

Your words on the First Lady don't bother me, they just make you look like a petty, snip of a low life. Which is your problem, not mine. ;-D

"It's okay to be Takei."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-04-29   10:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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