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Opinions/Editorials Title: Critics: Obama’s Latest Long-Form Birth Certificate Is a Fake
Photoshop expert Mara Zebest sent this in: This is so maddening to listen to the media on this recent revelation… it’s such an obvious fake. (Click on image for larger view) Look at the attached JPG… (which shows what you will see when opening the PDF in Illustrator and how to get there)… but to recap… if you open the PDF in Illustrator (instead of Photoshop) – Select the entire document and go to the Object menu and choose Clipping Mask > Release. Repeat as necessary until all clipping masks are released. Also open the Layer and turn off the visibility of each clipping group and you can see all the numerous places in which information was added (edited) into the form. Lastly, look at the attached 1961 sample image found on the Internet of a legitimate 1961 Hawaii Birth Certificate (which someone posted to show what a real certificate would look like from that year in Hawaii)… look at the marks on this Internet version and you can see this was the template for Obama’s BC handiwork. The handwriting is exactly the same between posted Internet image and Obama’s fake version — the placement of boxes and marks are in the exact same position, dates are where the modified clipping masks occur to adjust dates to fit for Obama, but the handwriting of dates match (except for the clipping mask changes). Even the Cert. number is only off by the last two digits (which…you guessed it… happens to be a clipping mask layer). Finally, also wanted to make the point that regardless of where Obama is born, he’s still not a Natural Born Citizen since both parents were not born on U.S. soil but I won’t hold my breath waiting for the media to educate the public on this fact. (3 images) Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Interesting. On the poorly scanned black and white document, the raised seal is still clearly visible. On the clearly read Soetoro certificate, there clearly is no raised seal. The one undeniable fact the true believers ignore.
#2. To: All, Skip Intro, war, Murron, Rudgear, We The People, nolu chan (#0) fyi
#3. To: A K A Stone (#2) Let's see what the Talking Mouse lady has to say about this. After seeing that video of the layers...I can see the process of construction. Having done graphic arts on a couple Video documentaries, I can tell you how I think this doc was created: A group of birth certificates, or certifications was collected and scanned in as tif, bmp, or jpeg images. All the same format, size, and same pixels per inch brightness and contrast would be adjusted to erase and merge the background info to all white and black images. The basic document "form" was created, with all blank information. Base layer. This document would have the lines, fold-curve, and all the form text. The background would be white or transparent. A prototype would be done by hand to select the pertinent data from the assembled documents/birth certificates. They would also make a prototype map by hand writing the info needed and the doc number they have to pull the info from. So, all the assembled docs/birth certs they had on hand would all be numbered. This would be your source stack of docs...all named and numbered. On the base form form, the next layer up, each piece of data would be cut from the associated numbered source (bc) document, and carefully placed on the next layer of the base form. Note: This process can be done in Photoshop, or Gimp. How it's done is that your enlarge it so that it's about 200 to 250% of normal. Then you use the loop or rectangle selection tool to grab it, and copy it. You paste it to the new doc. Normally it always goes to the same location (like the center of the page)...then you click on the fuzzy corner of cut out bit with the position tool, and drag it to the placed you want it to be...and very carefully position it. When it's perfect, you hit enter. Repeat for each item you want to insert Several layers would be used so that if something were done wrong, they wouldn't have to redo the whole thing, just that layer.' After all the text was added, then the signatures would be laid down on a new layer the same way. They could come from any source, because you can resize the stuff you electronically cut out. Now you add the boxes that are checked from an alternate source. Eventually everything is in place and complete and on their own layer. Now the entire thing has a final layer, the grid paper. That hides all the previous cut and pasted stuff... and voila, now you have an "official" document. A real pro would have "flattened" the image, which would eliminate all the layers, and pull it into one merged-layer document. But somebody forgot to do that last"flatten merge" step. Note 2: I know how this was done because I had very poor originals to work from, and had to gin up documents using exactly this method...but I was only copying original documents, and it was for a video presentation, and also for lecture overheads. I made 100 to 150 of these types documents, so I got pretty good at it. Goldi-Lox posted on 2011-04-27 21:58:58 ET Reply Trace On the other hand, all this could be completely meaningless blather because PDF FILES ALL HAVE LAYERS.
#4. To: Skip Intro (#3) I know how this was done because I had very poor originals to work from, and had to gin up documents using exactly this method...but I was only copying original documents, and it was for a video presentation, and also for lecture overheads. I made 100 to 150 of these types documents, so I got pretty good at it. Sally must have prepared her lectures for talking mice and her fellow mensans. I wonder how they arrived for the lecture, a short yellow bus?
#5. To: A K A Stone (#2) I took the video and the whitehouse.gov bc to other sites, explained what I understood about the layers that were used to build this document, people got interested...it's gone viral!!
#6. To: buckeroo (#4) Sally must have prepared her lectures for talking mice and her fellow mensans. I wonder how they arrived for the lecture, a short yellow bus? You have to admit that her method explains why it took two years to come up with this thing.
#7. To: Skip Intro (#6) What surprises me is that no one is comparing the HIGHLY DISPUTED COLB originally provided by Hawaii to this new production. Watch, someone shall produce a critique of exactly how the two compare in a favourable way so as to add more FIRE to this BS.
#8. To: Skip Intro, Murron (#3) I think Goldi tries to think to much. I'll give you this. Maybe Obama was born in Hawaii. I don't know. I'm throwing this stuff out there right now so that lots of people can think about it, give their input. Then maybe the truth will come out. You brought up a good point about layers. I guess it's a good point, as I don't have the software to test it myself.
#9. To: A K A Stone (#8) Goldi tries to think to much. No no no ... she has a mouse named Clyven to that for her.
#10. To: Rudgear (#1) All of you Berfers were proven to be fucking idiots today, Rudy. But don't let that stop you. BTW, Hawaii certifies its docs with a stamp or a seal or both. But don't break trend and let facts get in your way, Rudy you fucking idiot. America...My Kind Of Place... #11. To: A K A Stone (#8) I'll give you this. Maybe Obama was born in Hawaii. I don't know. The above is for you too. America...My Kind Of Place... #12. To: A K A Stone (#2) Yea so? They're fucking idiots. America...My Kind Of Place... #13. To: war (#10) Wuss, if you have an argument to make, make it. Stop crying and throwing tantrums.
#14. To: war (#12) You know what war? I never thought I would see people so ensconced into their dirty tricks they would make Nixon's CREEP (Committee to Re-elect the President) and Donald Segretti seem like amateurs at being mean spirited, vindictive and vicious. I understand your frustration here; I am tired of this profoundly ignorant clap trap garbage too. This game is a very NeoCon way of doing business, and like the NeoCon myth of global American hegemony, it will go nowhere and get people sick of these sort of childish games. #15. To: war (#12) -- "GET HER OUT OF HERE!" Lawrence O'Donnell Kicks Orly Taitz Off His Show #16. To: Ferret Mike (#14) I don't think you are being honest. I think you realize you are on the losing end of this and instead of dealing with it, you run and hide making excuses that you are tired of taking the high road and being dragged down by the peons you are forced to deal with. Go hide in the cuckoo's nest if you can't take the heat of inspection.
#17. To: Rudgear (#16) If you want to get someone's goat, you are looking in the wrong direction. But thanks for sharing all the same. ;-D #18. To: Ferret Mike (#15) It's tough to say which one is the craziest. O'Donnell is a frothing at the mouth progressive, like Keith Olbermann. He filibustered, and didn't give Orly a chance to speak.
I recall a re-run of MASH I saw where this uber right winger named Colonel Flagg... #19. To: Rudgear (#13) You're a fucking idiot, Rudy. America...My Kind Of Place... #20. To: war (#19) Can I call you ****? You keep calling me Rudy.
#21. To: hondo68 (#18) It's tough to say which one is the craziest. Only if you're a fucking Berfer Idiot. America...My Kind Of Place... #22. To: Rudgear (#20) Can I call you **** Only if you do so while posting the picture of him in his "fabulous" spandex outfit. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? #23. To: Rudgear, A K A Stone (#20) No. America...My Kind Of Place... #24. To: no gnu taxes (#22) You like seeing pictures of men in tights, Rattberg? Go to town boy... America...My Kind Of Place... #25. To: war (#24) Spend much time of fag web sites, loser?
#26. To: Rudgear (#25) None at all. But Rattberg could probably use your recommendations. America...My Kind Of Place... #27. To: war (#26) Yet you post queer themed pictures. Interesting. Number 479 on the list of reasons why you and yu-kloughn are identical and interchangeable. Just keep digging yourself deeper, freak.
#28. To: Rudgear (#27) You're a fucking idiot, Rudy. America...My Kind Of Place... #29. To: hondo68 (#18) "O'Donnell is a frothing at the mouth progressive, like Keith Olbermann. He filibustered, and didn't give Orly a chance to speak." I wouldn't either. And if someone was invited onto the NeoCon Fox channel and didn't want to talk about what they were invited to talk about, their microphone would be unplugged too. I believe this quid pro quo was intended, and appropriate. #30. To: no gnu taxes (#22) "Only if you do so while posting the picture of him in his "fabulous" spandex outfit." Like words on fashion from someone who has to iron his white robe and pointy hat to go out with the boys to burn a cross means anything? How amusing you are Padlock. Thanks for sharing. #31. To: war (#28) You're a f**king idiot, ****. war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore. #32. To: Rudgear (#31) You're a fucking idiot, Rudy. America...My Kind Of Place... #33. To: war (#12) Yea so? Have you been drinking? Why are you so overly emotional about this issue?
#34. To: We The People (#33) (Edited) I don't consider getting gales of laughter from the after-birthers as being overly emotional. And that's all without getting into how Obama made The Donald look like even more of a buffoon than he was on this issue... But then I've senn The Donald take victory laps for bewing stupid before... America...My Kind Of Place... #35. To: war (#34) I don't consider getting gales of laughter from the after-birthers as being overly emotional. Laughter? I don't see laughter, I see anger.
#36. To: war (#34) But then I've senn The Donald take victory laps for bewing stupid before... Better hit that edit button fast, Mr non-stupid. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? #37. To: We The People (#35) I don't see laughter, I see anger. Don't forget "denial." Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai"
#38. To: no gnu taxes (#36) (Edited) So I typo'd...sue me...I've had about 7 non consecutive hours of sleep in the last 72 hours. It's the only way possible you could have a "fair fight" with me. And even then, maybe... America...My Kind Of Place... #39. To: We The People (#35) You're seeing things...maybe that explains your current pathology over Obama's long form birth certificate being released. Watching you after-birther's is second only to Yukon's self-outing in hilarity. America...My Kind Of Place... #40. To: war (#38) -- Obama's Birth Certificate: The Conspiracy Deepens #41. To: war (#39) You're seeing things...maybe that explains your current pathology over Obama's long form birth certificate being released. Oh war, why must you always be so.....out there? I have repeatedly stated that , I'll type slow... I D O N T C A R E W H E R E O W A S B O R N! So there is no pathology. And if you're going to start calling me names, I'm afraid I'll have to do the same. That's not what we want is it?
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