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I'm here for the moneuy Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Science-Technology See other Science-Technology Articles Title: 6% Of Scientist Are Republicans Source: TYT URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACWtrfbk9ic Published: Jul 10, 2009 Author: The Young Turks Post Date: 2011-04-22 10:33:09 by lucysmom Keywords: Liberal Scientists, Reality based community Views: 38997 Comments: 57 Take heart, 9% of scientists describe themselves as Conservative. Click for Full Text! Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-17) not displayed.       .       .       . #18. To: A K A Stone (#17) The point is you are using an example from 60 and 70 years ago as somehow beong applicable today. DO Catholic priests still put people to death? America...My Kind Of Place... war  posted on  2011-04-22   11:33:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: lucysmom (#0) This poll would appear to be quite dubious as to what they actually found. First, there are a lot of things that are called "science" which really aren't, and a lot of people who call themselves scientists who don't really practice science. The vast majority of this category tend to be airhead liberals. OTOH, just about every engineer I know is a conservative, the difference being that you can't just pull things out of your ass like these so called scientists do. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   11:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: A K A Stone (#12) What was it that scientists were doing to blacks back in the 50's. Weren't they injecting them with Syphilis or something? Good to know they weren't conservatives either. Or something. http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmtuskegee1.html The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-22   11:43:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: no gnu taxes (#19) OTOH, just about every engineer I know is a conservative... The two engineers I know are liberals. The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-22   11:45:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: no gnu taxes (#19) This poll would appear to be quite dubious as to what they actually found. Here is a link to the report. people-press.org/2009/07/...tists-fault-public-media/ The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-22   11:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: lucysmom (#22) Nothing there about who they consider scientists, although this pretty telling: While scientists are generally upbeat about the state of their profession, they do see several obstacles to conducting high-quality basic research. As might be expected, by far the biggest impediment is a lack of funding Whatever butters your bread... Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   12:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: _Jim (#16) AS IF everyone plays by those 'rules'; that we know is not true (ever watch Cops?) That wasn't the point; and no, I don't watch cops. The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-22   12:03:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: no gnu taxes (#23) Whatever butters your bread... Of course. Your screen name would imply butter on your bread makes YOU a small government conservative. The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-22   12:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: no gnu taxes (#23) Nothing there about who they consider scientists, although this pretty telling: Check out the table titled "Scientists Say These Are Good Times". The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-22   12:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: lucysmom (#26) And 84% say government is the top source of their funding. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   12:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: no gnu taxes (#27) And 84% say government is the top source of their funding. So? The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-22   13:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: A K A Stone (#8) Some who call themselves scientists aren't scientists also. For example Globullshit warming dudes in white coats. And evilution dudes in white coats. They use the specter of being scientists to mystify the gullible. Overgrown monkeys - fruitflies ! Archeology - history - evolution ... are non repeatable --- not science ! If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys ! BorisY  posted on  2011-04-22   13:13:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: lucysmom (#21) The two engineers I know are liberals. Poor bastards, we'll light a candle for them....... "I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning CZ82  posted on  2011-04-22   13:15:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: CZ82 (#30) Poor bastards, we'll light a candle for them....... One is a senior scientist at a major research institute with two PhDs. Not bad considering he's only 35. I wouldn't feel too bad for him. The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-22   13:30:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: lucysmom (#31) One is a senior scientist You said he's an "engineer" yet you go on to say he's a scientist at a research institute. Do you even know the difference between a scientist and an engineer. I would certainly expect a "scientist" at a government funded "research" institute to be a liberal. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   13:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: no gnu taxes (#32) You said he's an "engineer" yet you go on to say he's a scientist at a research institute. Do you even know the difference between a scientist and an engineer. Is there a law that says being one excludes one from being the other? "http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi" Rek  posted on  2011-04-22   13:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: Rek (#33) Is there a law that says being one excludes one from being the other? Is there a law that excludes chef from being a waiter? One is one and the other is the other. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   13:54:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: no gnu taxes (#34) Is there a law that excludes chef from being a waiter? One is one and the other is the other. You need to tell NASA that those vaunted Rocket scientists don't need no engineering background. "http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi" Rek  posted on  2011-04-22   14:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: lucysmom (#31) I wouldn't feel too bad for him. I don't feel bad for him because of his profession, it's all about what he believes........ LOL....... "I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning CZ82  posted on  2011-04-22   14:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: no gnu taxes (#32) You said he's an "engineer" yet you go on to say he's a scientist at a research institute. Do you even know the difference between a scientist and an engineer. Google "research scientist engineer" ant then come back and apologize. The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-22   18:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: no gnu taxes (#32) Engineers ARE scientists shit for brains. America...My Kind Of Place... war  posted on  2011-04-22   19:09:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: lucysmom (#37) Google "research scientist engineer" ant then come back and apologize. I'm not even sure what you are telling me to Google. "research scientist engineer" is gibberish. OTOH, "+research +scientist +engineer" would turn up results as there are both engineer researchers and scientific researchers. Why don't you google "+engineer +scientist +difference." Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   19:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: war (#38) As a registered professional engineer, I don't think I need you to tell me what an engineer is, money market boy. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   19:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: no gnu taxes (#40) I have NO doubt that you are lying your ass off to me right now. You were a Gofer and a RatFucker for Ron Paul. http://www.esm.vt.edu/ http://www.esm.psu.edu/ http://www.engsci.utoronto.ca/Page4.aspx http://www.seas.harvard.edu/teaching-learning/graduate And they all even have their own club... America...My Kind Of Place... war  posted on  2011-04-22   19:19:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #42. To: war (#41) I don't believe no gnu was a Ron Paul supporter. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-22   19:28:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #43. To: A K A Stone (#42) He was on Ron Paul's payroll, Stone. Someone outed Paddy at LP a few year bank. America...My Kind Of Place... war  posted on  2011-04-22   19:29:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #44. To: war (#41) You post a bunch of irrelevant websites as proof of what? That some organizations seem to use the terms interchangeably? You do know that no state (that I know of) will consider a science degree and science work as qualifying factors in becoming licensed as an a professional engineer? Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   19:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #45. To: war (#43) I'm not Dondero (although I do respect his viewpoints). I wish he would just come on one of these forums and prove that. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   19:32:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #46. To: no gnu taxes, Skip Intro (#44) ...will consider a science degree and science work as qualifying factors in becoming licensed as an a professional engineer? Post the requirements... Thanks... America...My Kind Of Place... war  posted on  2011-04-22   19:32:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #47. To: no gnu taxes (#44) You post a bunch of irrelevant websites as proof of what? Oh...I don't know PaddyCakes...maybe as proof that the top schools from which one may procure an engineering degree call engineering a science... I did forget one link tho...the one from which YOU got your "engineering degree"... America...My Kind Of Place... war  posted on  2011-04-22   19:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #48. To: war (#46) Generally requires an engineering degree and passing the fundamentals of engineering exam And then about 4 years of verified engineering experience, plus about 5 references, at least 3 of which must be licensed engineers. Then you must pass a professional test in your specific area of choice. Every year, you must verify continuing credits of proficiency. Their are some variations from state to state (I've done this in 3 states), but that's basically the gist of it. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   19:42:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #49. To: no gnu taxes (#48) Generally requires an engineering degree Engineering is a science, PaddyCakes. But I have no doubt that you are NOT an engineer...unless it's Lionel... America...My Kind Of Place... war  posted on  2011-04-22   19:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #50. To: war (#49) Engineering is a science, PaddyCakes. Not always. Ever heard of a Sanitary Engineer. Otherwise known as a Janitor. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-22   19:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #51. To: A K A Stone (#50) Okay...that made me laugh... America...My Kind Of Place... war  posted on  2011-04-22   19:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #52. To: war (#49) Engineering is a science, PaddyCakes. Engineering is closely associated with applied science, but not science in general. As you know nothing about me and never will, I don't give a shit about the misconceptions you have about what I am or am not. OTOH, I know exactly who you are. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   19:53:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #53. To: no gnu taxes (#52) I'm outie PaddyCakes...I feel as if I am being sucked into your Vortex of Stupidity. I have plans for the weekend and don't have time to get lost. America...My Kind Of Place... war  posted on  2011-04-22   19:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #54. To: no gnu taxes (#52) As you know nothing about me and never will, I don't give a shit about the misconceptions you have about what I am or am not. ROFLMAO...nice try PaddyCakes... America...My Kind Of Place... war  posted on  2011-04-22   19:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #55. To: war (#53) I'm outie PaddyCakes Translation: You've been punked and you know it. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   19:59:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #56. To: no gnu taxes (#55) In dreams...engineers are scientists...and you're just a goddam liar... America...My Kind Of Place... war  posted on  2011-04-22   20:01:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #57. To: no gnu taxes (#39) OTOH, "+research +scientist +engineer" would turn up results as there are both engineer researchers and scientific researchers. There is also the job title "Research Scientist Engineer". Below is a job description for that title (them three gibberish words seem to work fine). Research Scientist/Engineer Senior: Senior, professional level scientist/engineer. Independently applies advanced scope of scientific knowledge and principles in planning and executing laboratory research. Represents research in conferences to resolve important issues, as well as plan and coordinate research. Work involves extremely complex problems of diverse scope where analysis requires evaluation of intangible variance factors. Acts as a technical lead or consultant on various projects. Minimum Qualifications: PhD and 6 or more years of related experience. However, I believe what I said was that he was an engineer with the job title, "senior scientist", working at a research institute. I also said that he has two PhDs. The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-22   20:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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