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911 Title: 911 SURVIVOR WON’T BACK DOWN Perhaps the most compelling direct testimony regarding the harrowing events of Sept. 11, 2001 comes from survivor and former Army Spec. April Gallop, who—with her two-month-old child, Elisha, in tow—arrived at the Pentagon just minutes before a powerful explosion rocked the building that Tuesday morning. Ms. Gallop spoke out on her experience at conferences where this AFP writer heard her story—which has never wavered. “I could have very early given up,” Ms. Gallop told AFP March 29. “My efforts are much larger than many people think they are.” She now is fighting to obtain subpoena power, with the help of attorney William Veale and support through Centerfor911Justice.org. “This case . . . is premised on an allegation of broad complicity in the attack on the part of key U.S. government officials,” the complainant said. Full credit is given to American Free Press - 645 Pennsylvania Avenue SE, Suite 100 Washington, D.C. 20003 Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 22. #1. To: Bill D Berger, All (#0) claiming that the complaint was based on “cynical delusion and fantasy.” It is delusional and a fantasy. Unless of course you want to believe Paul Begala is a conspirator along with Cheney....
#2. To: Badeye (#1) Ms. Gallop also maintains that federal officials repeatedly preached to her that a large commercial airliner hit the Pentagon and that she was strongly advised not to state otherwise.
#3. To: Bill D Berger (#2) A large commercial airliner DID hit the pentagon on 9/11. Sheesh. Again, you have to convince the entire world Paul Begala is in on this vast conspiracy in full support of Bush and Cheney. Good luck with that.
#4. To: Badeye (#3) A large commercial airliner DID hit the pentagon on 9/11. Go back and look at the original footage the government released. Get you something to measure the length of whatever it was on screen. Compare its length with that of the pentagon. Look up the lenght of the "plane" or whatever it was and the pentagon. They don't add up. I've done it. You can dismiss it if you want. But you wont know the truth until you measure it yourself. It isn't even close
#16. To: A K A Stone (#4) You can dismiss it if you want. But you wont know the truth until you measure it yourself. It isn't even close I don't 'dismiss it' Stone...I 'understand it'. What isn't 'even close' is you require Paul Begala to be part of the vast (thousands) conspiracy, in full support of the Bush/Cheney administration to perpetrate the single most complex 'conspiracy' in world history. I don't have to do anything here but as you, or BDB a simple question. How is it Begala decided - under this absurd theory - to lie to the entire world, not to mention his uber leftwingnut cohorts, and agree to help perpetrate this hoax that would have brought the Bush administration crashing down? He SAW THE PLANE for God's sake. As did dozens, if not HUNDREDS of others driving the freeway right past the pentagon when the plane struck. Of all the ridiculous conspiracy theories, buld 7, cell phones didn't work on the planes, 5,000 jews didn't show up at WTC on 9/11....this is the goofiest of all. The others require a low level of intelligence to believe. This one? It requires one of the most highly partisan hacks in modern political history to cast aside his partisanship, commit a felony or three, and lie FOREVER so as to protect Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld et al. Come on Stone, apply common sense.
#17. To: Badeye (#16) Come on Stone, apply common sense. I don't think that it had to require thousands of accomplices. Why was Andrews Airforce base website changed 9-12-2001 to erase their mission statement to protect DC? Why was Andrews Air force Base Jets out over the atlantic ocean training on 911? Why did the alleged hijackers feel free to take a joy ride across Ohio before turning the plane around for the attack? Why did no fighter jets shadow the planes as FAA regulations require? Why did firemen say there were bombs in the building. Do me one favor. Look at the footage and take some measurements with a piece of tape or something. Then scale it and compare it to the size of the pentagon. It doesn't add up.
#22. To: A K A Stone (#17) Stick to what I noted. Forget all the other 'bullshit' (my opinion after looking at and reading everything on the topic over the last decade). Explain how it is Paul Begala, partisan hack extrodinair, lied literally within ten minutes of the plane hitting...to his own wife, then on the air that day, and every time its come up since then. Explain how it is Paul Begala, OF ALL PEOPLE, has agreed to keep the Bush administration from harm. Good Lord, Stone...I don't believe Begala would have done this for CLINTON, let alone a Republican he's attacked in the most vicious ways possible from 1999 til...well, probably this morning.
Replies to Comment # 22. #23. To: Badeye, AKA Stone (#22) Explain how it is Paul Begala, partisan hack extrodinair, lied literally within ten minutes of the plane hitting...to his own wife, then on the air that day, and every time its come up since then. Rules of Disinformation 4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.
#26. To: Badeye (#22) Explain how it is Paul Begala, partisan hack extrodinair, lied literally within ten minutes of the plane hitting...to his own wife, then on the air that day, and every time its come up since then. The Fly on the Wall and the 9-11 Commission Cover Up The Plan to Hide the Truth About 9-11 Begins Even though it was the middle of the holiday season of 2003, the attendees all arrived at the scheduled meeting on time, if not a bit early. Paul Begala arrived first as planned and worked with the Secret Service to insure that the meeting room had no bugs or recording devices. Jamie Gorelick arrived next, nodded hello to Paul, went to the sideboard and rounded up a bottle of spring water and a donut as provided. She noticed a fly indulging in one of the donuts and shooed the beast off in disgust. "Imagine flies this time of year," Gorelick said to Paul then assumed a seat at the conference table. Sandy Berger, Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton arrived together. Greetings were exchanged, coffee or water obtained, the fly again was shooed off a donut.
Richard Ben-Veniste came breathlessly into the room five minutes later, threw his briefcase into a chair, picked up a bottle of water from the sideboard and again shooed the pesky fly off of the donut. "How in the hell are flies still around at Christmas?" Ben-Veniste asked distractedly. Begala cleared his throat once all attendees were settled. "I want whoever prepared the refreshments fired," Hillary said acidly. "There's no excuse for this fly in the room at this time of year." Begala cleared his throat again after scribbling a note to himself to fire the refreshment staff as Hillary commanded. "Okay, we're here to finalize The Plan," Begala said, using his index and middle finger of each hand to create imaginary quotes in the air as he said the words "The Plan" solemnly. "I still think you're biting off too much here," Bill Clinton began. "I think we should stick to," here Bill stopped and looked to the ceiling for the delicate phrasing required. "I think we should stick to cleaning up any aspersions that would be cast on the Democrat administration over the 9-11 attacks and leave the Republicans alone."
#33. To: Badeye (#22) Explain how it is Paul Begala, partisan hack extrodinair, lied literally within ten minutes of the plane hitting...to his own wife, then on the air that day, and every time its come up since then. I've never seen that. But I believe you. Maybe he is just lying about it because that is what he does. He wanted to seem important. Studying Begala isn't a scientific approach. Measuring the size of the "jet" and the size of the pentagon is scientific.
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