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Title: Ryan: Debt crisis lies within spending, not taxes
Source: You Tube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsU6oeOChuM
Published: Apr 18, 2011
Author: CBS News Online
Post Date: 2011-04-18 19:07:23 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 75145
Comments: 113

Schieffer interviews Paul Ryan, tries to back him into a corner and fails.... I can't embed the video (it's locked) so you will have to go to YouTube to view it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsU6oeOChuM

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

Raising the debt limit is absolute insanity, given BOTH parties history of spending like there is no tomorrow....which if not stopped not might actually lead to 'no tomorrow' for the nation.

Democrats today sound like heroin addicts, screaming insane nonsense - Pelosi is yesterday's prime example - trying to rationalize the continuing practice of writing bad checks as if there are no consequences.

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-19   8:50:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Badeye (#1)

Raising the debt limit is absolute insanity.

Couple refusing to do so to S&P's shit bomb yesterday and you would see a financial crash 100x's worse than 2008. You think that you were screaming like a bitch without a tit two years ago? This would be even worse.

war  posted on  2011-04-19   8:52:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: war (#2)

Couple refusing to do so to S&P's shit bomb yesterday and you would see a financial crash 100x's worse than 2008.

You actually advocate raising the debt ceiling and more spending?

We The People  posted on  2011-04-19   14:23:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: We The People (#4) (Edited)

The debt ceiling has to be raised. The US needs to pay its obigations. PERIOD.

war  posted on  2011-04-19   14:37:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: war (#5)

The debt ceiling has to be raised. The US needs to pay its obigations. PERIOD.

Where do we stop? When the dollar is dropped as the WRC?

When it collapses completely?

We The People  posted on  2011-04-19   14:56:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: We The People (#13)

The debt ceiling has to be raised. The US needs to pay its obigations. PERIOD.

The irony in this statement is the fact Geithner and company are claiming we have to do this to pay the INTEREST on what we owe, not the debt we are 'obligated to pay'.

Raising the debt ceiling is absolute insanity, doesn't matter which political party controls the House.

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-19   15:12:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Badeye (#19)

The irony in this statement is the fact Geithner and company are claiming we have to do this to pay the INTEREST on what we owe, not the debt we are 'obligated to pay'.

That is actually the insanity of it all.

How will we ever pay the debt if we have to print and borrow more just to pay the interest?

It's absolute insanity.

We The People  posted on  2011-04-19   15:24:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: We The People (#25)

That is actually the insanity of it all.

How will we ever pay the debt if we have to print and borrow more just to pay the interest?

It's absolute insanity.

Exactly. We are 'here'. And when you point out this is quite insane, no matter how you look at it from a busienss standpoint, the uber Leftwingers will fall apart, and change the topic to bashing Bush, or the GOP...as if that has anything to do with 'here and now'.

It no longer matters 'who'. We're at the point if we don't cut the House off cold turkey, the slim chance we can get out of this financial mess will dissipate completely.

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-19   15:50:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Badeye (#30) (Edited)

Exactly. We are 'here'. And when you point out this is quite insane, no matter how you look at it from a busienss standpoint, the uber Leftwingers will fall apart, and change the topic to bashing Bush, or the GOP...as if that has anything to do with 'here and now'.

The fact is, Boof...dems all throughout Bush's reign of error were predicting fiscal clamity. They were laughed at. "Cutting taxes ALWAYS increases revenues!!!" You were screaming for a tax cut 2 years ago.

war  posted on  2011-04-19   15:52:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#33) (Edited)

dems all throughout Bush's reign of error were predicting fiscal clamity.

Yes they were, so why aren't they predicting the same now?

Why are they now calling for more spending and an increase in the debt limit?

Partisan politics, D's v R's is a shell game with no pea. No way to win.

Both are drunk with power and unending, astronomical spending.

We The People  posted on  2011-04-19   16:00:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: We The People (#38)

Partisan politics, D's v R's is a shell game with no pea. No way to win.

The reality is now simply this: Who will be less restrictive, less apt to steal our freedom and wealth, and screw us less. The GOP is the winner of the lesser of Two Evils.

Both are drunk with power and unending, astronomical spending.

Whereas the neocon/Elite-controlled GOP openly wastes our wealth and assets on unnecessary wars and no-win trade agreements, the Dems achieve the same goal, only they've openly declared war on Whitey, Christians, the unborn, and "bitter" gun-clingers as well.

Verdict: The nod goes to the GOP as the lesser of Two Evils.

There's a conundrum for conservatives and libertarians. When is enough enough? For Dems and the Left, The Game has totally gone their way for the last 45 years. They are in the catbird seat.

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-20   14:30:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Liberator (#56) (Edited)

For Dems and the Left, The Game has totally gone their way for the last 45 years. They are in the catbird seat.

I would agree, except for the time line. I think we've been moving left for longer than that.

When is enough enough?

That is the question. For me, enough is enough, right now. Repubs have moved too far left. I can't move with them.

I could support and vote for them as the lesser of two evils, but I'd still be supporting and voting for moving left. I just can't do it.

Especially with them constantly pissing on my leg while telling me it's raining.

If they nominate a conservative, then things change, at least for me, but the odds of that are minuscule.

We The People  posted on  2011-04-20   14:52:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#62. To: We The People (#60)

I think we've been moving left for longer than that [45 years.]

Technically and probably it's begun in earnest since the coincidental establishment of both the Federal Income Tax in 1913 and establishment of the Bankster's Federal Reserve - along with the start of WWI.

Some people might see the stock market crash, depression and FDR as a collective catalyst of socialism, while others point to the establishment of the UN.

[When is enough enough?]

That is the question. For me, enough is enough, right now. Repubs have moved too far left. I can't move with them.

I could support and vote for them as the lesser of two evils, but I'd still be supporting and voting for moving left. I just can't do it.

If they nominate a conservative, then things change, at least for me, but the odds of that are minuscule.

We all realize the NWO has hijacked most of the key places in government, finance, and media. The Fix is pretty much in. And you're right - no overtly pro-US sovereignty/conservative will be allowed by the NWO-elite machine to become a serious candidate.

So how can it be played, realizing we're again stuck between pragmatism and principle? Does the GOP give us any shot at stringing the globalists' plan out this time around? Is there an outside chance that it give the right people a chance to right this ship? Maybe. I don't like those odds either, but...

...I know one thing - if 0bama wins again, we have ZERO fighting chance of stationing enough of the right people in the right position to help take back the ship.

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-20 17:39:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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