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Title: Ryan: Debt crisis lies within spending, not taxes
Source: You Tube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsU6oeOChuM
Published: Apr 18, 2011
Author: CBS News Online
Post Date: 2011-04-18 19:07:23 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 75026
Comments: 113

Schieffer interviews Paul Ryan, tries to back him into a corner and fails.... I can't embed the video (it's locked) so you will have to go to YouTube to view it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsU6oeOChuM

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

Raising the debt limit is absolute insanity, given BOTH parties history of spending like there is no tomorrow....which if not stopped not might actually lead to 'no tomorrow' for the nation.

Democrats today sound like heroin addicts, screaming insane nonsense - Pelosi is yesterday's prime example - trying to rationalize the continuing practice of writing bad checks as if there are no consequences.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-19   8:50:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Badeye (#1)

Raising the debt limit is absolute insanity.

Couple refusing to do so to S&P's shit bomb yesterday and you would see a financial crash 100x's worse than 2008. You think that you were screaming like a bitch without a tit two years ago? This would be even worse.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   8:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: CZ82 (#0)

When videos are locked at youtube. Sometimes I try livelink.com or thedailymotion.com.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-19   9:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: war (#2)

Couple refusing to do so to S&P's shit bomb yesterday and you would see a financial crash 100x's worse than 2008.

You actually advocate raising the debt ceiling and more spending?

We The People  posted on  2011-04-19   14:23:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: We The People (#4) (Edited)

The debt ceiling has to be raised. The US needs to pay its obigations. PERIOD.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   14:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#5)

So people not even born yet should pay back this crap plus interest for all their lives if you get a chance to be born without being wacked by some "pro choice" liberal?

No. Thomas Jefferson was right. The earth belongs to the living.

If the debt needs to be paid. Obama can pay it out of his pocket. If he can't pay it it should be paid back at one dollar a lash.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-19   14:40:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#6)

So people not even born yet should pay back this crap plus interest for all their lives

The other day I pointed out to you where the USCON disagrees with TJ. The debts are to be perpetual.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   14:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#7)

Obama is an illegal alien president. He has to pay it back or take lashes at a buck a piece.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-19   14:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#8) (Edited)

Man you get grumpy when milk and cookies time gets delayed...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   14:44:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#6)

Thomas Jefferson was right. The earth belongs to the living.

BTW, Jefferson bought Louisiana with borrowed money.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   14:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war (#10)

3 cents an acre, what a bargain. That is like borrowing a hundred bucks to buy a walmart.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-19   14:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#11)

The point being that it wasn't paid back in 2 years time...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   14:50:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: war (#5)

The debt ceiling has to be raised. The US needs to pay its obigations. PERIOD.

Where do we stop? When the dollar is dropped as the WRC?

When it collapses completely?

We The People  posted on  2011-04-19   14:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#11)

3 cents an acre, what a bargain. That is like borrowing a hundred bucks to buy a walmart.

Much of it unliveable with vector born diseases and such. We originally bought it as a buffer.

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Rek  posted on  2011-04-19   15:03:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: war (#10)

BTW, Jefferson bought Louisiana with borrowed money.

The North paid for the CW with borrowed money.

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Rek  posted on  2011-04-19   15:05:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: We The People (#13)

When the dollar is dropped as the WRC?

WRC?

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   15:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#16)

World reserve currency

We The People  posted on  2011-04-19   15:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: We The People (#4)

Couple refusing to do so to S&P's shit bomb yesterday and you would see a financial crash 100x's worse than 2008.

Only those foolish enough to believe we can keep writing bad checks in the trillions (total) utter this kind of nonsense.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-19   15:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: We The People (#13)

The debt ceiling has to be raised. The US needs to pay its obigations. PERIOD.

The irony in this statement is the fact Geithner and company are claiming we have to do this to pay the INTEREST on what we owe, not the debt we are 'obligated to pay'.

Raising the debt ceiling is absolute insanity, doesn't matter which political party controls the House.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-19   15:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: All (#16)

When the dollar is dropped as the WRC?

Not going to happen.

But if you want to see it happen...default on debt...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   15:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rek (#15)

And neither point has any bearing on what we are dealing with here, today.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-19   15:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Badeye (#19) (Edited)

The irony in this statement is the fact Geithner and company are claiming we have to do this to pay the INTEREST on what we owe, not the debt we are 'obligated to pay'.

You crack me up Boofer...the last time the debt ceiling came up you were screaming that it would be unpatriotic to not raise it with a war going on.

That said, that's been the reason for raising the debt ceiling just about every time it has been raised. Don' t start your day job.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   15:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: war (#2)

a financial crash 100x's worse than 2008.

You don't see that coming if we keep increasing the debt limit?

We The People  posted on  2011-04-19   15:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: We The People (#23)

I do.

So we cut spending.

And we still don't get there.

You HAVE to raise taxes.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   15:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Badeye (#19)

The irony in this statement is the fact Geithner and company are claiming we have to do this to pay the INTEREST on what we owe, not the debt we are 'obligated to pay'.

That is actually the insanity of it all.

How will we ever pay the debt if we have to print and borrow more just to pay the interest?

It's absolute insanity.

We The People  posted on  2011-04-19   15:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: We The People (#25) (Edited)

The insanity is the fact that the GOP is responsible for most of it and are now bitching about it.

We told them that you cannot cut taxes...we told them that you cannot spend money like a drunken sailor...every time a bill came up to authorize funds for the war, the GOP flipped out when the dems insisted that they pay for it....

THAT is the insanity of all of this...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   15:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: war (#26)

The insanity is the fact that the GOP is responsible for most of it and are now bitching about it.

OK, no offense, but that is my cue to walk away.

We The People  posted on  2011-04-19   15:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: We The People (#27) (Edited)

It's the truth...most of the debt that we have we incurred under republicans...you walking away does not make that any less true...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   15:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: war (#28)

It's the truth...most of the debt that we have we incurred under republicans...you walking away does not make that any less true...

I know it's true. The majority of our debt occurred under Republican administrations. That's not what makes me want to exit the conversation.

What makes me want to exit the conversation are these two simple facts; I am not a Republican and Congress controls the purse, not the president.

Reagan increased the debt +11.3% in his first term and +9.3% in his second, but it was with the aid of a Dem controlled House.

George H W Bush increased the debt +15.0% in one term, but with a Dem controlled House AND Senate.

We are in debt, not up to our asses, but far over our heads. Arguing that one party put us there is, again no offense, simply nonsense. R's and D's are equally to blame, but they certainly do benefit when we're arguing the merits of one over the other, like we're taking sides in a football game, while we all continue to go further into debt.

We The People  posted on  2011-04-19   15:49:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: We The People (#25)

That is actually the insanity of it all.

How will we ever pay the debt if we have to print and borrow more just to pay the interest?

It's absolute insanity.

Exactly. We are 'here'. And when you point out this is quite insane, no matter how you look at it from a busienss standpoint, the uber Leftwingers will fall apart, and change the topic to bashing Bush, or the GOP...as if that has anything to do with 'here and now'.

It no longer matters 'who'. We're at the point if we don't cut the House off cold turkey, the slim chance we can get out of this financial mess will dissipate completely.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-19   15:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: We The People (#29)

George H W Bush increased the debt +15.0% in one term, but with a Dem controlled House AND Senate.

Huh? Bush had 6 years of a friendly Congress...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   15:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: We The People (#29)

We are in debt, not up to our asses, but far over our heads. Arguing that one party put us there is, again no offense, simply nonsense.

Yep.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-19   15:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Badeye (#30) (Edited)

Exactly. We are 'here'. And when you point out this is quite insane, no matter how you look at it from a busienss standpoint, the uber Leftwingers will fall apart, and change the topic to bashing Bush, or the GOP...as if that has anything to do with 'here and now'.

The fact is, Boof...dems all throughout Bush's reign of error were predicting fiscal clamity. They were laughed at. "Cutting taxes ALWAYS increases revenues!!!" You were screaming for a tax cut 2 years ago.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   15:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: war (#33)

Bush cut taxes and revenues to the govt increased.

What you liberals don't understand. Is that when you earn money it is yours not the governments.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-19   15:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: war (#31)

Bush had 6 years of a friendly Congress...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat...y_U.S._presidential_terms

We The People  posted on  2011-04-19   15:55:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: war (#31)

George H W Bush, not George W Bush.

We The People  posted on  2011-04-19   15:58:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#34)

Bush cut taxes and revenues to the govt increased.

What you liberals don't understand. Is that when you earn money it is yours not the governments

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CZ82  posted on  2011-04-19   15:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#33) (Edited)

dems all throughout Bush's reign of error were predicting fiscal clamity.

Yes they were, so why aren't they predicting the same now?

Why are they now calling for more spending and an increase in the debt limit?

Partisan politics, D's v R's is a shell game with no pea. No way to win.

Both are drunk with power and unending, astronomical spending.

We The People  posted on  2011-04-19   16:00:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: We The People (#38)

Yes they were, so why aren't they predicting the same now?

Sure they are.

The debt ceiling argument is a weak one. The government HAS to pay its bills including the interest on the debt.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   20:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: We The People (#36)

Same inbred gene pool...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   20:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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