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Title: A question of a hack or not turns into....Lies, Insults,Gossip, Deceit, Hate, Innuendo,?TRUTH? Spreads Across the Internet
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Published: Apr 14, 2011
Author: Yukon
Post Date: 2011-04-14 14:58:01 by A K A Stone
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Views: 1022196
Comments: 877
Stone, why don't you post all the information you have available. Why do you allow this to fester? I've contacted you by PM and you haven't answered. What the hell is the deal?
yukon posted on 2011-04-14
Poster Comment: Here are the posts that are made with the new ip number. The computer that you usually used was different then the one used with the new ip number. 2011-03-29 11:24:52 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 26 war <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Bucky...dude...c'mon. And what about you willie? Still haven't figured out why I constantly bring up that picture of you? LOLAY 2011-03-29 11:08:21 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 12 buckeroo 67.159.56.162 <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Are you really yukon? I'm guessing no one has ever accused you of being with Mensa International. LOLAY 2011-03-29 10:18:11 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 6 war <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Who gave the spandex-wearing coward permission to speak? 2011-03-29 07:58:53 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 2 CZ82 <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Don't give them the satisfaction...... With all the emotions I'm overcome with now, the scumbags and liars are the least concern. 2011-03-29 07:11:56 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 0 All 95.154.230.191 <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 I'm really gay. I admit it. Are you asshole jackals happy now? 2011-03-29 00:23:23 Edit Art: 19108 Com: 28 Fred Mertz This was posted under your ip you use all the time 2011-03-29 00:13:39 Edit Art: 19108 Com: 26 buckeroo
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Are you play with each other's [harrowup, Gatlin] "wrong link" while posting?
good one.
#788. To: Fred Mertz (#784)
Okay, thanks. Must be some beautiful horse flesh on display.
#789. To: Gatlin (#785)
How do you like the number of posts so far on your Q&A thread? it is getting lengthy. What number are your striving for?
#790. To: buckeroo (#768)
Are you going to ...
… gonna do!
#791. To: Fred Mertz (#763)
At least it's not spelled like yukon spells it: "in-you-endo"!
And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
Burma Shave.
#792. To: harrowup (#786)
You missed the Conference Call …
#793. To: Wood_Chopper (#791)
Where is yukko?
#794. To: buckeroo (#789)
What number are your striving for?
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#795. To: Fred Mertz (#793)
Where is yukko?
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#796. To: Fred Mertz (#793)
Where is yukko?
Over at www.lovethec**k.com?
And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
Burma Shave.
#797. To: Gatlin (#792) (Edited)
Messy buckets
#798. To: harrowup (#797)
Ooops …
#799. To: Gatlin (#798)
Gatlin, what was the name of the website you used to post on just before you came to LP..? I registered there years ago, but I've forgotten.
#800. To: Gatlin (#798)
Ooops
Yes, me tired. Me go bed now.
#801. To: Murron (#799)
Gatlin, what was the name of the website you used to post on just before you came to LP..? I registered there years ago, but I've forgotten.
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#802. To: Gatlin (#795)
LOLAY
You need to do another conference call and make sure yukko is awake.
He could be on another Sterno bender. Ever think of that?
#803. To: Murron (#799) (Edited)
He can’t remember either … Mel posted there too.
#804. To: Gatlin (#803)
Edit feature...use it.
#805. To: Gatlin (#801)
Don't bother, you've already answered the question. You are not who you masquerade as, the real gatlin was a gentleman, you are just a senile old man full of deceit and lies, one can only imagine what a warped, frustrated miserable person you are in life...
#806. To: Murron, harrowup (#801)
Good night ... enjoyed the evening.
Catch you tomorrow.
#807. To: Wood_Chopper, Fred Mertz (#796)
Where is yukko?Over at (bleep)
This means "yukon" is going to get it again....
I'm not computer savvy so forgive me if this is unconnected. Just prior to my problems logging on and a period thereafter, my Norton posted warnings of a" medium security risk". Could there be a connection?
yukon posted on 2011-04-10 21:12:23 ET
#808. To: Murron (#805) (Edited)
#809. To: Murron (#805)
the real gatlin was a gentleman,
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#810. To: harrowup, Murron (#808) (Edited)
Hey, there sissy. Who yu tink yu fookin wit?
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#811. To: Murron (#805)
Don't bother, you've already answered the question. You are not who you masquerade as, the real gatlin was a gentleman
You are correct Murron.
And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
Burma Shave.
#812. To: Liberator (#686)
Do the above posts sound like the past measured responses of "Gatlin"?
Not at ALL. I've said the same myself before.
Gatlin hated the very tactics this "Gatlin" employs.
And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
Burma Shave.
#813. To: Gatlin (#810)
#810. To: harrowup, Murron (#808) (Edited)>>Hey, there sissy. Who yu tink yu fookin wit?
Herself … LOLAY! Edit: I think we shut her down!
Gatlin posted on 2011-04-18 23:53:15 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
oops.
And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
Burma Shave.
#814. To: Fred Mertz (#804)
Thanks, I get sloppy when I am in a hurry.
#815. To: Wood_Chopper, nolu chan (#813)
GATLIN'S THIRD TRY - EPIC FAIL#383. To: A K A Stone (#381)
I could only do that by comparing the current PW with something from the archives, and that would require loading up the older files which is a bit of effort. But keep in mind that only someone with admin access to the site can change PWs.
Yukon's old password at LP was guessed within minutes. Assuming that someone did guess the simple passwords yukon used at both sites, all the hacker had to do was sign in as yukon and Ibluafartsky and change the passwords. That would take no admin access to do that.
While any unauthorized entry into a computer (system) is legally called hacking .. technically the guessing of a password and entering a computer is not hacking. I think Neil is referring to someone having access to all PWs to change and that may not be (probably is not) the case here and at LP.
If this is true, then Neil will be able to determine nothing ... is that correct Neil
Gatlin posted on 2011-04-17 23:23:21 ET
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#388. To: A K A Stone, yukon (#382)
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If someone guesses a password and enters a computer, that is legally hacking. If that someone then changes the password so that only he can make posts ... then yukon could not enter LF as he stated he could not. There will be no evidence that happened.
Gatlin posted on 2011-04-17 23:31:57 ET
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#429. To: Murron (#421)
LMAO! I've known I could do this since I first signed on here yrs ago, what's the big deal? Is this what this whole fiasco's been about?
The "hacker" knew he could do it too ... AND HE DID IT!
Everyone was: Looking in all the wrong places for love.
I have been saying all along this was how the hacker was able to operate as he did.
Yukon's old password was guesses in minutes by someone.
Elementary, "My Dear Watson."
You are corret ... there is no big deal here.
Gatlin posted on 2011-04-18 0:05:55 ET
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#484. To: A K A Stone (#482)
I will go back and answer the questions if you want me to ... no problem.
BTW ... during the excitement, I think I said that someone over at LP guessed yukon's password in a few minutes.
I forgot to tell you that I guessed Ibluafartsky's password at LF on the first guess. I have the email confirming that ... of course the doubters will say that email is a fake, but IDGAS what the doubters say.
Gatlin posted on 2011-04-18 1:08:06 ET
Unauthorized entry into a computer or system is not legally called hacking. It is not called hacking by hackers. It is not hacking. It is unauthorized entry.
Guessing a password is not hacking. Guessing two passwords is generally called bulls**t. There is no evidence of hacking, but there is ample evidence of bulls**t.
Using Gatlin's new and creative definition, the hacking occurred when the password was used to effect unauthorized entry to the yukon account on LP.
I will now apply that bulls**t to the earlier claims of Gatlin.
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I haven't found any knew (sic) information that would reveal the fact that Yukon was hacked prior to posting the outing thread at LP.
Nor have I. I checked my records and I can find that happening nowhere. And if I read Stone’s and Goldi’s posts correctly, they also have found no information that would reveal the fact that Yukon was hacked prior to posting the outing thread at LP. I believe it has been both stated and concluded that the “new” ISP in the UK was first used at the initial entry into the respective forums for the specific purpose of posting the two bogus threads.
Your question quite naturally framed a question for me to ask you back … the question is: Why would it be expected that Ibluafartsky/yukon was hacked prior to the hacker posting his thread at LP (and LF, for that matter)?
Gatlin/Tater posted on 2011-04-16 17:04:07 ET
If the supposed "hacking" was nothing more than using the correctly guessed password to effect entry to the yukon account, how did the ersatz "hacker" post anything prior to the "hacking," i.e., prior to using the real password to effect entry to the yukon LP account?
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In order to follow the electronic footprints through his front door directly to his computer keyboard, it is necessary to first look for the person who has a long standing grudge against Goldi and yukon. That is where I started looking to follow his footsteps.
Look carefully and discover that it was not yukon saying I used the wrong link … it was the hacker saying I am not as smart as I thought I was, I should not have established such an obvious pattern and continually used the same ISP.
A dumb hacker does dumb things … A smart hacker does dumber thing ~ Gatlin
Gatlin is not following any electronic footprints anywhere. With no evidence he purports that some dastardly badguy correctly guessed two different passwords, used a proxy which rendered him unidentifiable, and got away clean.
Gatlin has been running around casting aspersions on Buckaroo, but he has not produced one scintilla of evidence of a hack. And now a hack becomes an amazing feat of guessing two different passwords.
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#926. To: Goldi-Lox (#919)
It looks like 6 posts were made, and 5 had the first number, only one had the second.
Smart dude ... knew what he was doing.
No way to trace it.
I believe it was also Buckeroo that said yukon would be smart enough to channel his IP so that it would not be detected.
He said that after Stone said that yukon (forgot his screen over there) has used a different IP than than he had been using.
That Bucky sure has ass the answers ... Not saying who may be guilty ... just saying what Bucky said.
Gatlin posted on 2011-04-04 18:16:45 ET
No way to trace it. That's so April 4th. Now Gatlin is following imaginary electronic footprints through some front door directly to some computer keyboard.
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#337. To: war (#285)
After using the same IP all the time, why would Ibluafartsky suddenly decide to use a proxy server to hide the IP address he had been using all the time.
Help me understand what yukon admitting that he was Ibluafartsky would prove.
Better still, if he yukon admits that he was Ibluafartsky ... how will that change you opinion about anything.
My explanation is as it has been from day two ... yukon and Ibluafartsky used the same password at both LP and LF. You no doubt already know that one of the simplest ways to gain access to a pasword is through the use of a Brute Force Attack. This is accomplished when a hacker uses a specially written piece of software to attempt to log into a site. One site has a list of the Top 10 FREE Password Crackers. The IPs at LP and LF were both different than yukon or Ibluafartsky had been using for some time.The IPs that the phoney yukon used at LP was a proxy IP fed through the UK (I traced it) and problably the same here.
Gatlin posted on 2011-04-10 21:04:05 ET
Oh crap! That's so last week. On April 10th, Gatlin asserted that his explanation is, as it has been from day two ... yukon and Ibluafartsky used the same password on both LP and LF. That was, of course, blasted by the quoted post of yukon from April 1st that he did not use the same password.
Oh crap again! Gatlin claims knowledge that yukon and Ibluafartsky used the same password on LP and LF. His only possible source for that information, yukon, said exactly the opposite. Who does Gatlin claim as a source of information for two original passwords?
#253. To: TooConservative (#211)
Some people use the same passwords over and over at different forums.
Not in my case.
yukon posted on 2011-04-01 13:31:02 ET
All these yukons can't keep their story straight.
Now this gasbag claims it really was two different passwords, and not only that, he now recalls that he personally correctly guessed the second, different password for LF on his very first try. I wonder why he maintained, for so long, that yukon and Ibluafartsky used the same password at both LP and LF. One wonders what was his source of information for that as yukon said the exact opposite.
On April 10th, Gatlin was implying that use of a computer program, with a brute force attack, had something to do with something, or perhaps he was just bulls**ting. Faced with the fact that Neil should find tens or hundreds of thousands of login attempts, faster that a human could have done, this quickly morphed to miraculous guessing of two passwords, and no hack at all.
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Now, would you like to make a wager. I am prepred to consider a wager that I can hack your account here on LF, steal your password and post an admission/confession that you are a homosexual. (You must not have changed your password after 4/15/11). In order to make the wager, I would need a signed agreement for permissible conditions from you, and I would need the same from Stone authorizing me to be a white hat hacker (one who breaks security for non-malicious reasons such as testing the security system … as Stone would be authorizing me to do). FYI: The “white hat” hacker is also called an “ethical hacker” … and I do want to forever remain ethical. You will probably want to skip right on by this paragraph because the minimum wager must be an extremely large amount (to be specified later) for me to take time to do it … and there would be certain mutually restrictive agreed conditions, plus the monies would be held in an escrow account.
Oh, never mind. Cracking passwords in the database on or before 4/15/11 is now inoperative, even with a brute force attack by a white hat bulls***er. And who uses a cracker program that can only crack passwords made on 4/15/2011 or before?
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The alleged dastardly perpetrator allegedly used a proxy site based in the UK. The following attack thread on Buckaroo presents the "evidence" that Buckaroo uses an email account not based in the UK, and which is not a proxy service, proving... well, nothing. At least not proving anything about Buckaroo.
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Title: Well, looky here.. ..Debka ..... ...... buckeroo@XXXX.com Source: libertypost.org URL Source: libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...tNum=305524&Disp=964#C964 Published: Apr 4, 2011 Author: WS Post Date: 2011-04-04 22:31:12 by WhiteSands Views: 501 Comments: 46
Well, looky here....
Screen Name......Email Debka ...........buckeroo@ireland.com
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#1. To: All (#0)
This explains who would even know of such a site as Iloveyourcook !
WhiteSands posted on 2011-04-04 22:32:39 ET
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#2. To: WhiteSands (#1)
This explains who would even know of such a site as Iloveyourcook !
What a scumbag he is.
domer posted on 2011-04-04 22:41:42 ET
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#5. To: WhiteSands, buckeroo, freedom4umfaggots, lflamefaggots (#1)
This explains who would even know of such a site as Iloveyourcook !
Buckeroo is nothing but an alcoholic old faggot that needs a psychiatrist. What a lowlife, vile, despicable, cowardly POS.
yukon posted on 2011-04-05 0:14:50 ET
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#6. To: WhiteSands, All (#0)
Thanks to everyone who exposed the biggest a$$hole I've ever run across in my entire life. Not that he doesn't have plenty of competition at dum4um and liars flame.
yukon posted on 2011-04-05 0:30:54 ET
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#7. To: yukon (#5)
Buckeroo is nothing but an alcoholic old faggot that needs a psychiatrist. What a lowlife, vile, despicable, cowardly POS.
Alcoholic in need of a therapist? Clearly.
Faggot? Doubtful. Have you seen his shoes?
Lowlife, vile, despicable, cowardly POS? No question.
Pathological liar is another distinction that might be added.
harrowup posted on 2011-04-05 0:47:03 ET
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#11. To: harrowup (#7)
Buckeroo is nothing but an alcoholic old faggot that needs a psychiatrist. What a lowlife, vile, despicable, cowardly POS. Alcoholic in need of a therapist? Clearly.
Faggot? Doubtful. Have you seen his shoes?
Lowlife, vile, despicable, cowardly POS? No question.
Pathological liar is another distinction that might be added.
You guys left NOTHING for me to add.
You are so greedy.
Gatlin posted on 2011-04-05 0:57:28 ET
Damn Chan. You have way to much time on your hands.
#816. To: A K A Stone (#815)
Damn Chan. You have way to much time on your hands.
Use the edit feature Stone.
#817. To: Wood_Chopper (#813)
#810. To: harrowup, Murron (#808) (Edited) >>Hey, there sissy. Who yu tink yu fookin wit?
Herself … LOLAY! Edit: "I think we shut her down"!
Gatlin posted on 2011-04-18 23:53:15 ET
#818. To: harrowup, Gatlin, Murron (#808)
Well heck Murron, I had the following all ready to go, waiting until gatlin's edit time was up on #810, but ya beat me to it:
harrowup and gatlin,
You guys better get your shit together. You post to Murron, harrowup, then delete it using the edit feature, but only after your buddy Gatlin screws you and quotes your post #808 in his post #810 that you later deleted in your post #808.
Here's harrowup's post to Murron in #808 that harrowup deleted using the edit feature: >>Hey, there sissy. Who yu tink yu fookin wit?
And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
Burma Shave.
#819. To: Gatlin (#814)
Thanks, I get sloppy when I am in a hurry.
That must disappoint h'up. Or is it "yukon"?
Bwaahaa....
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
#820. To: Wood_Chopper (#818)
Here's harrowup's post to Murron in #808 that harrowup deleted using the edit feature: >>Hey, there sissy. Who yu tink yu fookin wit?
I saw that darlin, just wasn't on my priority list of things to respond to. &;-)
#821. To: Wood_Chopper, harrowup, Gatlin, yukon, Murron, Rudgear, Skip Intro, diva betsy ross, A K A Stone (#818) (Edited)
You guys better get your shit together. You post to Murron, harrowup, then delete it using the edit feature, but only after your buddy Gatlin screws you and quotes your post #808 in his post #810 that you later deleted in your post #808.Here's harrowup's post to Murron in #808 that harrowup deleted using the edit feature: >>Hey, there sissy. Who yu tink yu fookin wit?
I just wonder... how do those two post as one while giving the other a lap dance?
So which composite "yukon" is the faggot who got busted "using the wrong link"?
*snicker*
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
#822. To: Liberator, A K A Stone (#821) (Edited)
Somebody posted the name "Yukon" should be trademarked. Wish I could remember who it was and give the poster credit for it.
Did you see Stone's post #815? nolu chan NAILS gatlin. It's a compilation, over time, of the changes of story occurring by gatlin.
That's why, IMO, if the goal of these forums is to find the truth and not just post opinions and muddy the waters, it's important NOT to lock the threads.
Locked threads here were unlocked, and EVERYONE was allowed to keep posting.
Smart move.
And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
Burma Shave.
#823. To: A K A Stone (#815)
n April 10th, Gatlin was implying that use of a computer program, with a brute force attack, had something to do with something, or perhaps he was just bulls**ting. Faced with the fact that Neil should find tens or hundreds of thousands of login attempts, faster that a human could have done, this quickly morphed to miraculous guessing of two passwords, and no hack at all.
Brilliant
#824. To: A K A Stone, Liberator, buckeroo, calcon, war, Murron, (#815)
Damn Chan. You have way to much time on your hands.
I've heard of Tommie Chan, idiot #3 son and having more than a dozen children it was inevitable that another idiot comes along.
The 'epic fail' would be that pile of crap. Yukon's pw was stolen at LP; hacked was a term that never should have been used. Where it began, is immaterial. There was a theft and then libel and slander undertaken by at least three posters who have/had posting privileges at both LP and LF.
There is nothing to be gained by further displays of ugliness and stupidity.
Many of the posters in the last few days with far too much imagination couldn't accept the fact that the truth was displayed by Tater/Gatlin on Sunday in a display of complete honesty with both the expose on the ease of PW theft and a short lecture on hate which was followed by exactly that point.
Eventually the crazies had no fallback and decided to go Lord of the Maggots and are convinced that Gatlin, harrowup and others are one poster.
The intentional reinforcement of that silliness led to the predictable reactions of the last few posters and reinforces my belief that the egos involved are toxic.
Now, y'all can go on taking this opportunity to express your outrage at your host using us as a cover or you can go back to being whatever it is you claim you are at least in your own minds.
This has never been an attack on A K A Stone or Liberty's Flame. LF has some meaningful members just as does LP. My final comment on the matter will be directed to Goldi, once more suggesting she reinstate the culprits to LP so that, if necessary, we have the opportunity to smack them down one more time.
#825. To: harrowup (#824)
I agree; it's over. Those who don't like people like yukon - like me - will just continue to mostly ignore him; and those who like him won't.
#826. To: Rudgear (#761) (Edited)
PUT THREAD ON IGNORE.
America...My Kind Of Place...
#827. To: Liberator (#821) (Edited)
I think it was a chick.
I think she who was cruising porn sites- to post at (to disrupt the site OR to make some money) - when she messed up, and caused all the men in her bully group, to come rushing to cover it up. Figuring out WHO it was, who was posting as yukon, leads us to seeing some more complex issues, and the history of group bullying.
Thats what I see.
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