[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

Freepers Still Love war

Parody ... Jump / Trump --- van Halen jump

"The Democrat Meltdown Continues"

"Yes, We Need Deportations Without Due Process"

"Trump's Tariff Play Smart, Strategic, Working"

"Leftists Make Desperate Attempt to Discredit Photo of Abrego Garcia's MS-13 Tattoos. Here Are Receipts"

"Trump Administration Freezes $2 Billion After Harvard Refuses to Meet Demands"on After Harvard Refuses to Meet Demands

"Doctors Committing Insurance Fraud to Conceal Trans Procedures, Texas Children’s Whistleblower Testifies"

"Left Using '8647' Symbol for Violence Against Trump, Musk"

KawasakiÂ’s new rideable robohorse is straight out of a sci-fi novel

"Trade should work for America, not rule it"

"The Stakes Couldn’t Be Higher in Wisconsin’s Supreme Court Race – What’s at Risk for the GOP"

"How Trump caught big-government fans in their own trap"

‘Are You Prepared for Violence?’

Greek Orthodox Archbishop gives President Trump a Cross, tells him "Make America Invincible"

"Trump signs executive order eliminating the Department of Education!!!"

"If AOC Is the Democratic Future, the Party Is Even Worse Off Than We Think"

"Ending EPA Overreach"

Closest Look Ever at How Pyramids Were Built

Moment the SpaceX crew Meets Stranded ISS Crew

The Exodus Pharaoh EXPLAINED!

Did the Israelites Really Cross the Red Sea? Stunning Evidence of the Location of Red Sea Crossing!

Are we experiencing a Triumph of Orthodoxy?

Judge Napolitano with Konstantin Malofeev (Moscow, Russia)

"Trump Administration Cancels Most USAID Programs, Folds Others into State Department"

Introducing Manus: The General AI Agent

"Chinese Spies in Our Military? Straight to Jail"

Any suggestion that the USA and NATO are "Helping" or have ever helped Ukraine needs to be shot down instantly

"Real problem with the Palestinians: Nobody wants them"

ACDC & The Rolling Stones - Rock Me Baby

Magnus Carlsen gives a London System lesson!

"The Democrats Are Suffering Through a Drought of Generational Talent"

7 Tactics Of The Enemy To Weaken Your Faith

Strange And Biblical Events Are Happening

Every year ... BusiesT casino gambling day -- in Las Vegas

Trump’s DOGE Plan Is Legally Untouchable—Elon Musk Holds the Scalpel

Palestinians: What do you think of the Trump plan for Gaza?

What Happens Inside Gaza’s Secret Tunnels? | Unpacked

Hamas Torture Bodycam Footage: "These Monsters Filmed it All" | IDF Warfighter Doron Keidar, Ep. 225

EXPOSED: The Dark Truth About the Hostages in Gaza

New Task Force Ready To Expose Dark Secrets

Egypt Amasses Forces on Israel’s Southern Border | World War 3 About to Start?

"Trump wants to dismantle the Education Department. Here’s how it would work"

test

"Federal Workers Concerned That Returning To Office Will Interfere With Them Not Working"

"Yes, the Democrats Have a Governing Problem – They Blame America First, Then Govern Accordingly"

"Trump and His New Frenemies, Abroad and at Home"

"The Left’s Sin Is of Omission and Lost Opportunity"

"How Trump’s team will break down the woke bureaucracy"

Pete Hegseth will be confirmed in a few minutes


Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

Corrupt Government
See other Corrupt Government Articles

Title: Nation of Takers, Not Makers~more work for govt. than manufacturing, farming, fishing, forestry, mining & utilities combined
Source: WSJ
URL Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100 ... 4050204576219073867182108.html
Published: Apr 1, 2011
Author: STEPHEN MOORE
Post Date: 2011-04-01 09:06:01 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: Obama-doma-ding-dong
Views: 197052
Comments: 226

We've Become a Nation of Takers, Not Makers

More Americans work for the government than in manufacturing, farming, fishing, forestry, mining and utilities combined.

If you want to understand better why so many states—from New York to Wisconsin to California—are teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, consider this depressing statistic: Today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government.

It gets worse. More Americans work for the government than work in construction, farming, fishing, forestry, manufacturing, mining and utilities combined. We have moved decisively from a nation of makers to a nation of takers. Nearly half of the $2.2 trillion cost of state and local governments is the $1 trillion-a-year tab for pay and benefits of state and local employees. Is it any wonder that so many states and cities cannot pay their bills?

Every state in America today except for two—Indiana and Wisconsin—has more government workers on the payroll than people manufacturing industrial goods. Consider California, which has the highest budget deficit in the history of the states. The not-so Golden State now has an incredible 2.4 million government employees—twice as many as people at work in manufacturing. New Jersey has just under two-and-a-half as many government employees as manufacturers. Florida's ratio is more than 3 to 1. So is New York's.

Even Michigan, at one time the auto capital of the world, and Pennsylvania, once the steel capital, have more government bureaucrats than people making things. The leaders in government hiring are Wyoming and New Mexico, which have hired more than six government workers for every manufacturing worker.

Now it is certainly true that many states have not typically been home to traditional manufacturing operations. Iowa and Nebraska are farm states, for example. But in those states, there are at least five times more government workers than farmers. West Virginia is the mining capital of the world, yet it has at least three times more government workers than miners. New York is the financial capital of the world—at least for now. That sector employs roughly 670,000 New Yorkers. That's less than half of the state's 1.48 million government employees.

Don't expect a reversal of this trend anytime soon. Surveys of college graduates are finding that more and more of our top minds want to work for the government. Why? Because in recent years only government agencies have been hiring, and because the offer of near lifetime security is highly valued in these times of economic turbulence. When 23-year-olds aren't willing to take career risks, we have a real problem on our hands. Sadly, we could end up with a generation of Americans who want to work at the Department of Motor Vehicles.

The employment trends described here are explained in part by hugely beneficial productivity improvements in such traditional industries as farming, manufacturing, financial services and telecommunications. These produce far more output per worker than in the past. The typical farmer, for example, is today at least three times more productive than in 1950.

Where are the productivity gains in government? Consider a core function of state and local governments: schools. Over the period 1970-2005, school spending per pupil, adjusted for inflation, doubled, while standardized achievement test scores were flat. Over roughly that same time period, public-school employment doubled per student, according to a study by researchers at the University of Washington. That is what economists call negative productivity.

But education is an industry where we measure performance backwards: We gauge school performance not by outputs, but by inputs. If quality falls, we say we didn't pay teachers enough or we need smaller class sizes or newer schools. If education had undergone the same productivity revolution that manufacturing has, we would have half as many educators, smaller school budgets, and higher graduation rates and test scores.

The same is true of almost all other government services. Mass transit spends more and more every year and yet a much smaller share of Americans use trains and buses today than in past decades. One way that private companies spur productivity is by firing underperforming employees and rewarding excellence. In government employment, tenure for teachers and near lifetime employment for other civil servants shields workers from this basic system of reward and punishment. It is a system that breeds mediocrity, which is what we've gotten.

Most reasonable steps to restrain public-sector employment costs are smothered by the unions. Study after study has shown that states and cities could shave 20% to 40% off the cost of many services—fire fighting, public transportation, garbage collection, administrative functions, even prison operations—through competitive contracting to private providers. But unions have blocked many of those efforts. Public employees maintain that they are underpaid relative to equally qualified private-sector workers, yet they are deathly afraid of competitive bidding for government services.

President Obama says we have to retool our economy to "win the future." The only way to do that is to grow the economy that makes things, not the sector that takes things.

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 110.

#4. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

We have moved decisively from a nation of makers to a nation of takers

This is exactly the problem.

Add to takers people who are leaching off of the government transfer payments of various sorts, and the future looks very bleak.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-01   10:52:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: jwpegler, Happy Quanzaa (#4)

We have moved decisively from a nation of makers to a nation of takers

This is exactly the problem.

Add to takers people who are leaching off of the government transfer payments of various sorts, and the future looks very bleak.

Isn't it interesting the way the number of takers increases when the number of jobs decreases?

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-01   11:19:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: lucysmom (#8)

Isn't it interesting the way the number of takers increases when the number of jobs decreases?

You have the cause and effect backwards. The number of jobs have decreased because the government has become larded up with parasites draining the life out of the productive segment of the economy.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-01   11:42:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: jwpegler, lucysmom (#12) (Edited)

You have the cause and effect backwards. The number of jobs have decreased because the government has become larded up with parasites draining the life out of the productive segment of the economy.

JW has this exactly right.

My sister-in-law - a middle-aged divorced mom of a 12 year old - has just finalized her second full year of collecting unemployment benefits. $450 per week. She hasn't lifted a finger to look for another job - and why not? It's a PAID VACATION.

More outrageous: Her ex-husband does NOT provide any alimony. Why isn't his daughter his responibility?

Instead, the STATE has became the sugar-daddy and source of ALL financial support.

The state provided FREE Medical and dental. FREE housing. FREE food stamp. And other subsidies. Then she complained because she didn't get the FREE-MONEY as a tax-windfall $2100 child-credit from the goobermint.

Bottomline: She is a professional parasite...

Now multiply this scenario out across American 30 million times.

P.S. - She's voted for Clinton and 0bama.

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-03   13:11:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Liberator (#83)

More outrageous: Her ex-husband does NOT provide any alimony. Why isn't his daughter his responibility?

I take it her ex-husband is your brother, and the daughter is your niece?

I admire the way you tell the story to distance yourself as much as possible while establishing sufficient relationship to make your knowledge of her situation sound plausible.

Bottomline: She is a professional parasite...

I grew up back in the old days when caring for children and a home was the WORK women did. You guys want to go back to the old days, then support your women and children.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-03   13:44:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: lucysmom (#89)

I take it her ex-husband is your brother, and the daughter is your niece?

Would that revelation make any difference?

I admire the way you tell the story to distance yourself as much as possible while establishing sufficient relationship to make your knowledge of her situation sound plausible.

And I like the way you've distanced yourself away from the crux of the problem: A socialist-parasitic society dependent on a goobermint that confiscated wealth from the producers and rewards laziness, irresponsibility, and sloth.

I grew up back in the old days when caring for children and a home was the WORK women did. You guys want to go back to the old days, then support your women and children.

Those days are over - along with the days the father fulfilled his financial responsibly and supported his children. Maintaining a household is only ONE responsibility, just like personal hygiene.

You've choosen to ignore a major problem with a socialist nation: Subsidizing irresponsibility and sloth and penalizing responsibility and production. WHY are you so blind?

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-03   13:54:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Liberator (#92)

You've choosen to ignore a major problem with a socialist nation: Subsidizing irresponsibility and sloth and penalizing responsibility and production. WHY are you so blind?

A woman who cared for her children and home used to be considered responsible; you call her slothful because she currently doesn't have a second job.

Apparently she was productive in the Republican sense or she wouldn't be collecting unemployment now.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-03   14:10:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: lucysmom (#98)

A woman who cared for her children and home used to be considered responsible; you call her slothful because she currently doesn't have a second job.

HUH?? Don't confuse tasks with "jobs." She doesn't have ANY job, Lucy. It is ALL of our respective responsibility to earn a living. It is NOT the goobermint job.

Apparently she was productive in the Republican sense or she wouldn't be collecting unemployment now.

How so?

Challenge:

Please define "production in the Republican sense."

Please define "production in the Democrat sense."

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-03   14:17:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Liberator (#101)

Please define "production in the Republican sense."

The word was productive.

Productive in the Republican sense is economic activity.

Please define "production in the Democrat sense."

Would include but not exclusive to economic activity. I would say Jesus lead a productive life.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-03   14:34:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


Replies to Comment # 110.

#134. To: lucysmom (#110)

The word was productive.

Productive in the Republican sense is economic activity.

[Productive in the Democratic sense...

...Would include but not exclusive to economic activity. I would say Jesus lead a productive life.

a) The word in this case might be "bong."

b) You explained NOTHING AT ALL about defining "productive" or "productivity" in a philosophy sense of Pub vs. Dem.

Look Lucy - I don't have a magic decoder ring in my box of granola.

Wanna try again? This time without inhaling.

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-03 16:45:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


End Trace Mode for Comment # 110.

TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

Please report web page problems, questions and comments to webmaster@libertysflame.com