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U.S. Constitution Title: More Nullification of Federal Laws: Food Sovereignty Sedgwick, Maine has done what no other town in the United States has done. The town unanimously passed an ordinance giving its citizens the right to produce, process, sell, purchase, and consume local foods of their choosing. This includes raw milk, locally slaughtered meats, and just about anything else you can imagine. Its also a decided bucking of state and federal laws. From David Gumperts coverage: This isnt just a declaration of preference. The proposed warrant added, It shall be unlawful for any law or regulation adopted by the state or federal government to interfere with the rights recognized by this Ordinance. In other words, no state licensing requirements prohibiting certain farms from selling dairy products or producing their own chickens for sale to other citizens in the town. What about potential legal liability and state or federal inspections? Its all up to the seller and buyer to negotiate. Patrons purchasing food for home consumption may enter into private agreements with those producers or processors of local foods to waive any liability for the consumption of that food. Producers or processors of local foods shall be exempt from licensure and inspection requirements for that food as long as those agreements are in effect. Imagine thatbuyer and seller can agree to cut out the lawyers. Thats almost un-American, isnt it? I applaud the residents of Sedgwick for making such a bold stand. Three other Maine towns are also slotted to vote on a similar ordinance in the coming weeks. I wonder, though, about how enforceable such a law is if the state or federal government chose to challenge it. In response to a similar question, Edwin Shank (of Your Family Cow) commented on Gumperts post: Im not one of the lawyers here but my observation is that when the local law chooses to prohibit more than the rest of the state, nation or organization they will usually get by with it. It is when local law moves to allow more latitude that the trouble starts. For example, I can imagine that if a county in PA would take a Humbolt CA position on raw milk, the state would take an its-up-to-them position. But if local law in an area moved to allow raw butter, cream, kefir & yogurt
Im sure it would not get to first base. Still, I say Kudos to the fine folks of Sedgwick Maine. Their common sense bravery warms the heart of every awake American. If nothing else, their move will bring the ridiculousness of the situation to the consciousness of another percent or so of Americans. One American at a time the tipping point will be reached. Deborah Evans, one of the citizens of Sedgwick also commented: The problem with your question is that nobody really knows the answer. In Maine, there are maybe ten or so citizen-initiated rights-based ordinances like ours, passed in various towns in recent years, on a variety of issues. For instance, Montville passed an ordinance forbidding the planting of GMOs several years ago. MEs Dept of Ag wrote them a letter saying they could not do that according to some legal point, whereupon Montvilles counsel wrote back that they could do it because of a different point of law. As far as we know, that was that. Also, Maine has home rule for its towns in the statutes. The Maine Municipal Association published Municipal Home Rule: Grassroots Democracy or A Symbolic Gesture, (from Maine Townsman, January 1983) by Michael L. Starn, Editor. In this article, he writes: Municipal home rule in Maine is both constitutional and legislative. The constitutional provision can be found in the Constitution of the State of Maine, Art. VII, Pt.2, §1, and was adopted in public referendum in 1969. The amendment reads: The inhabitants of any municipality shall have the power to alter and amend their charters on all matters, not prohibited by Constitution or general law, which are local and municipal in character. The legislature shall prescribe the procedure by which the municipality may so act. Our Local Food and Community Self-Governance Ordinance states: (1) Producers or processors of local foods in the Town of Sedgwick are exempt from licensure and inspection provided that the transaction is only between the producer or processor and a patron when the food is sold for home consumption. . . . (2) Producers or processors of local foods in the Town of Sedgwick are exempt from licensure and inspection provided that the products are prepared for, consumed or sold at a community social event. Therefore, we the radicals who concocted this mutinous act of infamy believe that according to the Home Rule provisions of our State Constitution, the citizens of Sedgwick have the right to enact an ordinance that is local and municipal in character. David posted a link to our ordinance template so please feel free to read it over as I think some of your questions will be answered there. Having founded our legal position in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the State of Maine, we feel that if a challenge is posed it can only be resolved in a court of higher authority. The Farmer to Consumer Legal Defense Fund, the Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund and the Alliance for Democracy have all aided us in our efforts to construct this ordinance over the last year. We have had the civics lesson of our lives and it all started with a few of us sitting around a farmhouse kitchen table, having been gobsmacked by our Dept of Ag over a new interpretation of the 1,000-bird processing exemption.. Regardless of the outcome when all the votes are counted, Sedgwick and the other three towns have stood up and taken a stand on what matters in our communities. We know of several other towns who are just waiting to see how this goes before they jump in the game. Our State Legislators and Senator are very excited about this as it gives them a mandate to begin to make the changes at the state level. Right now there are three bills in the Legislatures Ag Committee that address our issues at the state level, largely because our issues are everyones issues when you get right down to it. If citizens in enough towns in enough states stand up and take a stand on their local food system based on their inalienable right to produce and choose the food they eat, the Fed might have to listen! What a concept. As a country the majority of us have become politically lazy and complacent. If we want change we must take up the tools of the democracy bequeathed to us by the Founding Fathers, organize, and get the ball rolling. If anybody thinks real change happens any other way, look at our history: Long before our Constitution was amended, individuals and small groups of outspoken people put their lives on the line to end slavery, to allow women the right to vote, to end racial discrimination, etc. Look at the struggles to legalize something as basic as the right to home school your own children. Real change comes from the people. Period. So, Kudos to the fine citizens of Sedgwick, Maine. May you inspire many other municipalities to follow suit!Sedgwick, Maine has done what no other town in the United States has done. The town unanimously passed an ordinance giving its citizens the right to produce, process, sell, purchase, and consume local foods of their choosing. This includes raw milk, locally slaughtered meats, and just about anything else you can imagine. Its also a decided bucking of state and federal laws. From David Gumperts coverage: This isnt just a declaration of preference. The proposed warrant added, It shall be unlawful for any law or regulation adopted by the state or federal government to interfere with the rights recognized by this Ordinance. In other words, no state licensing requirements prohibiting certain farms from selling dairy products or producing their own chickens for sale to other citizens in the town. What about potential legal liability and state or federal inspections? Its all up to the seller and buyer to negotiate. Patrons purchasing food for home consumption may enter into private agreements with those producers or processors of local foods to waive any liability for the consumption of that food. Producers or processors of local foods shall be exempt from licensure and inspection requirements for that food as long as those agreements are in effect. Imagine thatbuyer and seller can agree to cut out the lawyers. Thats almost un-American, isnt it? I applaud the residents of Sedgwick for making such a bold stand. Three other Maine towns are also slotted to vote on a similar ordinance in the coming weeks. I wonder, though, about how enforceable such a law is if the state or federal government chose to challenge it. In response to a similar question, Edwin Shank (of Your Family Cow) commented on Gumperts post: Im not one of the lawyers here but my observation is that when the local law chooses to prohibit more than the rest of the state, nation or organization they will usually get by with it. It is when local law moves to allow more latitude that the trouble starts. For example, I can imagine that if a county in PA would take a Humbolt CA position on raw milk, the state would take an its-up-to-them position. But if local law in an area moved to allow raw butter, cream, kefir & yogurt
Im sure it would not get to first base. Still, I say Kudos to the fine folks of Sedgwick Maine. Their common sense bravery warms the heart of every awake American. If nothing else, their move will bring the ridiculousness of the situation to the consciousness of another percent or so of Americans. One American at a time the tipping point will be reached. Deborah Evans, one of the citizens of Sedgwick also commented: The problem with your question is that nobody really knows the answer. In Maine, there are maybe ten or so citizen-initiated rights-based ordinances like ours, passed in various towns in recent years, on a variety of issues. For instance, Montville passed an ordinance forbidding the planting of GMOs several years ago. MEs Dept of Ag wrote them a letter saying they could not do that according to some legal point, whereupon Montvilles counsel wrote back that they could do it because of a different point of law. As far as we know, that was that. Also, Maine has home rule for its towns in the statutes. The Maine Municipal Association published Municipal Home Rule: Grassroots Democracy or A Symbolic Gesture, (from Maine Townsman, January 1983) by Michael L. Starn, Editor. In this article, he writes: Municipal home rule in Maine is both constitutional and legislative. The constitutional provision can be found in the Constitution of the State of Maine, Art. VII, Pt.2, §1, and was adopted in public referendum in 1969. The amendment reads: The inhabitants of any municipality shall have the power to alter and amend their charters on all matters, not prohibited by Constitution or general law, which are local and municipal in character. The legislature shall prescribe the procedure by which the municipality may so act. Our Local Food and Community Self-Governance Ordinance states: (1) Producers or processors of local foods in the Town of Sedgwick are exempt from licensure and inspection provided that the transaction is only between the producer or processor and a patron when the food is sold for home consumption. . . . (2) Producers or processors of local foods in the Town of Sedgwick are exempt from licensure and inspection provided that the products are prepared for, consumed or sold at a community social event. Therefore, we the radicals who concocted this mutinous act of infamy believe that according to the Home Rule provisions of our State Constitution, the citizens of Sedgwick have the right to enact an ordinance that is local and municipal in character. David posted a link to our ordinance template so please feel free to read it over as I think some of your questions will be answered there. Having founded our legal position in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the State of Maine, we feel that if a challenge is posed it can only be resolved in a court of higher authority. The Farmer to Consumer Legal Defense Fund, the Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund and the Alliance for Democracy have all aided us in our efforts to construct this ordinance over the last year. We have had the civics lesson of our lives and it all started with a few of us sitting around a farmhouse kitchen table, having been gobsmacked by our Dept of Ag over a new interpretation of the 1,000-bird processing exemption.. Regardless of the outcome when all the votes are counted, Sedgwick and the other three towns have stood up and taken a stand on what matters in our communities. We know of several other towns who are just waiting to see how this goes before they jump in the game. Our State Legislators and Senator are very excited about this as it gives them a mandate to begin to make the changes at the state level. Right now there are three bills in the Legislatures Ag Committee that address our issues at the state level, largely because our issues are everyones issues when you get right down to it. If citizens in enough towns in enough states stand up and take a stand on their local food system based on their inalienable right to produce and choose the food they eat, the Fed might have to listen! What a concept. As a country the majority of us have become politically lazy and complacent. If we want change we must take up the tools of the democracy bequeathed to us by the Founding Fathers, organize, and get the ball rolling. If anybody thinks real change happens any other way, look at our history: Long before our Constitution was amended, individuals and small groups of outspoken people put their lives on the line to end slavery, to allow women the right to vote, to end racial discrimination, etc. Look at the struggles to legalize something as basic as the right to home school your own children. Real change comes from the people. Period. So, Kudos to the fine citizens of Sedgwick, Maine. May you inspire many other municipalities to follow suit!
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#1. To: jwpegler (#0)
An unlicensed chicken, is a happy chicken.
This is actually an important event. If your neighbor grows some tomatoes and sells them to you, it's not interstate commerce. So what authority does the federal government have to regulate this? None.
I never thought that I would see this in my lifetime. It's magnificent. Agreed. I wonder, though... Is it too little, too late? On the one hand, it's encouraging that this is starting to happen. Especially because the Feds have been so busy arming the local municipalities with all the latest goodies and gadgets that a SWAT team could ever want! On the other hand, the Feds have been screwing with us for so long, that I am uncertain whether we can bring this country back from the edge of destruction...? IMHO, the vast majority of the political elite should be tarred and feathered... At the minimum. BUT... will it be enough? I fear that the only way to stop them- REALLY stop them- will be through force of arms.
Maybe. But for the first time in my life, people are starting to wake up. We're seeing this every day with the government bureaucrat unions. Republican governors really are taking them on. So are a couple of Democrat governors. Cuomo in NY is taking on the unions. Jerry Brown in California has just signed a a bill to cut over $2 billion from Medicaid. It's not enough, but he is a Democrat. We have never seen this before. The Reactionaries are out in full force in Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, New Jersey and elsewhere. I actually think they are going to lose, because this is just simple math. It's magnificent.
Your ignorance (or maybe its your sheepleness) is showing. Upon taking office, Brown gained a reputation as a fiscal conservative. "The American Conservative" later noted he was "much more of a fiscal conservative than Governor Reagan." His fiscal restraint resulted in one of the biggest budget surpluses in state history, roughly $5 billion. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Brown#cite_note-AC1-12 Some of us have been telling you that Brown is not all that liberal - trying our best to give you a clue.
I wasn't talking about Brown's overall record. I generally like Jerry Brown and I've always said so. I think he's very innovative for a politician. What I specifically said is that: Cuomo is taking on the unions. Brown is cutting Medicaid. We have never really seen those two things before from Democrats.
Yeah, that would be a rare as witnessing compassion from a conservative. Brown is a pragmatic centrist. His proposal demands something from all sides; budget cuts from one side, and extension of taxes already in effect from the other. Republicans remain inflexible (owing allegiance first to Grover Norquist and California voters second) and refuse to even allow the issue on the ballot. Jerry Brown is what being "his own man" looks like; republicans are what the bought and paid for look like. You may wish for the demise of unions just as Rove longed to see a permanent republican majority, but without an active counterbalance, tyranny of one sort or the other is the result.
The concept of "unions" is as prehistoric as "republicans" and "democrats." It is all wishful thinking that any group is going to defend anyone for anything at anytime because someone belongs to that group dynamic; they are all failures. In contemporary times (right now) they are all full of bilge and deserving to be thrown out for NOT keeping the fundamental foundations of America clearly in mind. And the test of proof of what I say is easy to see: America is in rapid decline with little hope of re-achieving ANYTHING as in past acclaims.
Actually what you see is proof of the exact opposite of what you say.
How so? Prove to me how the "unions" or the "republicans" or the "democrats" have encouraged (within the last 20 years) America's growth and stability towards the common values that estabished America. We are a declining nation; all of these established collective groups have falsified their credentials in preserving the dignity of individual rights.
Oh, now you want to confine your time period to the last twenty years? We are a declining nation; all of these established collective groups have falsified their credentials in preserving the dignity of individual rights. What Walker did in Wisconsin is a stunning example of crushing the "dignity of individual rights" and grinding them into the dirt.
I was just attempting to be kind with you. I thought starting your recollections with the Clinton administration would be a great start. You do remember Bill Clinton (D) signing NAFTA into law, correct? The "unions" were fervently against this treasonous legislation crafted by that piece of shit Newt "Contract for America" Gingrich (R). Most all the people were except those scurrilous political dawgs in Washington DC begging for a lobbying buck. Yet, the "unions" unanimously donated millions of dollars towards Clinton presidential campaign. Still, the "unions" have crafted steep benefits as a compromise about the nation for some rewards which proves their nasty taste for treason, as well. But go back until the end of WW2, that's about 60 years and you still can't find anything worthy of mention by the "unions" or the "democrats" or the "republicans" except some rhetorical speech here and there that means nothing but hot aire. BAH. First of all I asked you to go back twenty years and all you found was an example a few days old. There is no reasoning for collective bargaining by government paid employees; maybe 30% of government paid employees have mandatory participation in a union but that proves a point doesn't it. By the way the government unfairly treats unions with collective bargaining terms the 70% of government paid employees must bargain individually. Now that is not an apparent equality under the law is it? Unions demand special considerations which inevitably creates pressure on government to increase wages and benefits for all WHEN NO APPARENT PERFORMANCE IS REQUIRED FOR ANY INCREASE. As a result, receiving automatic pay increases DECREASES performance and minimizes the service that government should be applying toward the PEOPLE it serves.
Perhaps its just a coincidence, but the US didn't become a first rate world power until unions became a significant influence in American life. The growth of the middle class (and its demise) seems to be linked to the fortunes of the unions. Unions certainly have had a positive impact on the life expectancy of Americans. There is no reasoning for collective bargaining by government paid employees; maybe 30% of government paid employees have mandatory participation in a union but that proves a point doesn't it. By the way the government unfairly treats unions with collective bargaining terms the 70% of government paid employees must bargain individually. Now that is not an apparent equality under the law is it? Unions demand special considerations which inevitably creates pressure on government to increase wages and benefits for all WHEN NO APPARENT PERFORMANCE IS REQUIRED FOR ANY INCREASE. As a result, receiving automatic pay increases DECREASES performance and minimizes the service that government should be applying toward the PEOPLE it serves. Again; What Walker did in Wisconsin is a stunning example of crushing the "dignity of individual rights" and grinding them into the dirt. The words in quotes are yours. What Walker did was to decide that union members were so insignificant, of so little value that he didn't have to talk to them, allow them to have a voice or even choose of their own free will to sacrifice some of their benefits for the greater good, he ran roughshod over them, passed a law prohibiting them from having a voice, and now he has decided to ignore a court ordered stay prohibiting the publishing of his law. These are not the acts of a freedom loving, individual rights respecting man who treats others with dignity; these are the acts of a dictator who crushes.
The growth of the middle class (and its demise) seems to be linked to the fortunes of the unions. Unions certainly have had a positive impact on the life expectancy of Americans. enough. BOZO time. listening to your trash probably would be like logging into DU. enough. no need to stain my eyes with you anymore. blow it out your ass you evil regressive statist shill.
#35. To: e_type_jag (#34)
Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.
ROFLMAO...Office EEOC gets his ass kicked by a white woman...
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