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Title: Researchers: 100 Percent Green Energy Possible By 2050
Source: Green Car Reports
URL Source: http://www.greencarreports.com/blog ... -green-energy-possible-by-2050
Published: Feb 16, 2011
Author: John Voelcker
Post Date: 2011-03-13 11:46:07 by lucysmom
Keywords: green energy, energy independence, end of oil
Views: 18707
Comments: 29

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Researchers from Stanford University and the University of California-Davis published their analysis in the journal Energy Policy.

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The main challenges, say the authors, will be summoning the global will to make the conversion. "There are no technological or economic barriers to converting the entire world to clean, renewable energy sources," said author Mark Jacobson, a Stanford professor, saying it is only a question of "whether we have the societal and political will."

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#1. To: lucysmom (#0)

"There are no technological or economic barriers to converting the entire world to clean, renewable energy sources," said author Mark Jacobson


He's right, we have no technological or economic barriers to blocking our friends from Planet X-49 from coming down and presenting us with magical interstellar pixie dust power.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-03-13   11:55:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Happy Quanzaa (#1)

He's right, we have no technological or economic barriers to blocking our friends from Planet X-49 from coming down and presenting us with magical interstellar pixie dust power.

In 2001 the newly elected Bush administration sought to nullify California's CAFE standards (so much for Republican support for state's rights) which were nothing more than on target for complying with Bush the elder's legislation. While Detroit was whining "its too hard, we can't" Japan was doing it.

We all know what happened after that - Japan ate our lunch, again, and Detroit ended up on life support.

Pixie dust to some, a challenge to be met for others.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-03-13   12:16:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lucysmom (#2)

In 2001 the newly elected Bush administration sought to nullify California's CAFE standards (so much for Republican support for state's rights) which were nothing more than on target for complying with Bush the elder's legislation. While Detroit was whining "its too hard, we can't" Japan was doing it.

That doesn't make sense... because......the CAFE standards are "HIGHER" in California (you live there.. right) than in any other part of the country. So if Detroit was whining "Its too hard, we can't" then Detroit slit its own throat.. (or should I say the unions slit their own throat)...... not Bush....

When you're paying somebody close to 6 figures a year to put screws in a dashboard then you are slitting your own throat!!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-03-13   12:29:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: CZ82 (#5)

That doesn't make sense... because......the CAFE standards are "HIGHER" in California (you live there.. right) than in any other part of the country. So if Detroit was whining "Its too hard, we can't" then Detroit slit its own throat.. (or should I say the unions slit their own throat)...... not Bush....

Some counties in California have no annual emissions testing requirement.

Rek  posted on  2011-03-13   12:49:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Rek (#12)

Some counties in California have no annual emissions testing requirement

So what has that got to do with gas mileage standards??

CZ82  posted on  2011-03-13   12:53:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: CZ82 (#14) (Edited)

So what has that got to do with gas mileage standards??

I guess you were already aware of this. Emission systems have a lot to do with gas mileage, just ask any automotive engineer.

Rek  posted on  2011-03-13   12:56:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rek (#15)

I guess you were already aware of this. Emission systems have a lot to do with gas mileage, just ask any automotive engineer.

We were talking about CAFE standards which are "mileage" standards.....

Now emissions is another subject altogether..... If emissions has such a profound effect on mileage then "WHY" can you have high mileage vehicles that still release lots of emissions and it can pass an "Emissions Inspection"..... even in California...... I posted an article about this very subject the other night......

CZ82  posted on  2011-03-13   13:29:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: CZ82 (#19) (Edited)

We were talking about CAFE standards which are "mileage" standards.....

Now emissions is another subject altogether..... If emissions has such a profound effect on mileage then "WHY" can you have high mileage vehicles that still release lots of emissions and it can pass an "Emissions Inspection"..... even in California...... I posted an article about this very subject the other night......

Please let me know how CAFE standards are being set without taking into account the emissions systems.

Rek  posted on  2011-03-13   13:41:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Rek (#20)

Please let me know how CAFE standards are being set without taking into account the emissions systems.

What kind of emissions CO, CO2, NOx or particulate matter????

CZ82  posted on  2011-03-13   15:59:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: CZ82 (#26) (Edited)

What kind of emissions CO, CO2, NOx or particulate matter????

You tell me, since you're the one who posted they are two completely unrelated items.

Rek  posted on  2011-03-13   16:09:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Rek (#27)

What kind of emissions CO, CO2, NOx or particulate matter????

You tell me, since you're the one who posted they are two completely unrelated items

I just wondered what you meant cause different fuels have different emissions levels.

Fuel economy is determined by a dynamometer test that measures carbon in the fuel. If you know how much carbon is contained in a gallon of whatever fuel it might be, then you can calculate its "mileage". But, because that fuel has a specific amount of carbon (no matter what) in it per gallon its going to have the "same amount of emissions" (no matter what)no matter how far you drive on a gallon of fuel.... So in effect saying a car has such and such emissions is actually kinda irrelevant. You can't control "emissions" until you find a way to reduce the carbon content in any fuel......

Now different fuels "emit" different levels of CO, CO2, NOx, and particulate matter. For instance diesel actually has less CO2 emissions than gasoline. But since it emits more of the other 3 it is much worse for the atmosphere than gasoline.

What does this all mean???? Manmade Global Warming is a Hoax.... he he he he he......

CZ82  posted on  2011-03-13   17:23:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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