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Title: The Wisconsin Lie Exposed – Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Employee Pensions
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Forbes
URL Source: http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2 ... g-to-public-employee-pensions/
Published: Feb 25, 2011
Author: Rick Ungar
Post Date: 2011-02-25 23:27:34 by lucysmom
Keywords: Politics, Pensions, lies
Views: 38704
Comments: 57
Pulitzer Prize winning tax reporter, David Cay Johnston, has written a brilliant piece for http://tax.com exposing the truth about who really pays for the pension and benefits for public employees in Wisconsin. "Gov. Scott Walker says he wants state workers covered by collective bargaining agreements to “contribute more” to their pension and health insurance plans. Accepting Gov. Walker’ s assertions as fact, and failing to check, creates the impression that somehow the workers are getting something extra, a gift from taxpayers. They are not. Out of every dollar that funds Wisconsin’ s pension and health insurance plans for state workers, 100 cents comes from the state workers." Via http://tax.com How can this be possible? Simple. The pension plan is the direct result of deferred compensation- money that employees would have been paid as cash salary but choose, instead, to have placed in the state operated pension fund where the money can be professionally invested (at a lower cost of management) for the future.
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#1. To: hondo68, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm (#0)
This is also the way California's state employee pension fund works.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Manna from Heaven, untouched by taxpayer hands! All hail the magic Kenyan, and his Chicago mobsters!
I recall a re-run of MASH I saw where this uber right winger named Colonel Flagg... Chuckles.....you never cease to amaze us with this sort of simplistic leftard fawning post. You are not worth even correcting. Enjoy the warmth of having your thoughts formed for you by your cadre leaders:) LOL!!!!
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD
Yep. Same with some other benefits too if you choose not to take them. If you don't want a health care plan you can take the cash.
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Actually managed by one of the most well respected teams in the world.
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You are not worth even correcting. Enjoy the warmth of having your thoughts formed for you by your cadre leaders:) LOL!!!! It did give you a chance to LOL and assert your superiority - though with nothing more than the usual insults, we're left with nothing to judge for ourselves - except perhaps your lack of creativity.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
What has this got to do with Kenya, Kenyans, or Chicago?
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Who pays the employees fookin salaries, the tooth fairy?
And money that is OWED to the worker. Just putting this into Sht term treasuries and avoiding the tax puts you ahead. Unfortunately most people don't get this choice and further, were forced to invest i the same company they worked for.
Santa Claus pays it, except for the Muslim teachers. The Santa Saudis pay theirs.
OK, so when youse guys say youse want government employees to contribute more of their own money to their own pensions, exactly what does you mean?
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Some seem to think if you work for the government you earn nothing and therefore you are owed nothing.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Which is why I would only work for state/fed. Everyone else can cut you loose in a heart beat. With no severance whatsoever. The American Dream. They call it that because you have to be asleep to believe it.-G Carlin 8D
So instead of getting 125,000 dollars a year paid directly to them, they get 100,000 with 25,000 going to their retirement funds. It still all comes from the taxpayer's pocket. How stupid do you leftards think we all are?
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
You won't understand what this is about, but I'm posting the link anyway. You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
The employee is still using their own earned money, so what's the problem? Actually under a Republican governor more than twenty years ago, they did go with an employer contributions only retirement plan they called Tier 2. Lots of employees got caught on that when they let them cash out their own contributions and take them in a lump sum. Later on they found out they would have to work until they were eighty five or so to afford to retire. lol So most ended up putting their own contributions back into the system and going back to the original Tier 1. The state also contracted with a provider under the Savings Plus Program to provide 401k's, 457s etc. All paid entirely by employee contributions with no state matching at least for the rank and file employees.
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The problem is that government employees don't deserve to be paid because the money comes out of the taxpayer's pocket. Teachers shouldn't be paid unless they work for a private school. Mailmen shouldn't be paid unless they work for FedEx or UPS. Its ok to take money out of the consumer's pocket but not the tax payer's.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
How can this be possible? Simple. The pension plan is the direct result of deferred compensation- money that employees would have been paid as cash salary but choose, instead, to have placed in the state operated pension fund where the money can be professionally invested (at a lower cost of management) for the future. OK, let us review for the MORONS who roll over for BIGGER gooberment at every turn. "PUBLIC" employees are paid ONLY by TAX MONEY, money which is stolen from the TAXPAYERS under the force of LAW. ALL gooberment money comes from TAXES. EVERY cent that "public employees" get is FROM TAXPAYERS. THE TAXPAYERS are the ONLY source for money to pay "public employees". EVERY penny that "public employees" are paid or get in ANY FORM is FROM THE TAXPAYERS. ALL MONEY gooberment has IS THE TAXPAYER'S money. You libTURDS whores are as STOOPID as you are INSANE.
Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!
damn this article clearly shows how leftist economics have put so many states in a financial crisis, the level of stupidity is so amazing assholes should have taken a few economics or accounting classes, rather then all those classes on tree hugging, nose picking, and making belly button lint into sweaters.
Then who is paying the bills? The tooth fairy? LOL. ALL of the compensation for government bureaucrats comes from taxpayers. ALL OF IT.
the level of stupidity is so amazing Exactly right.
Who pays your bills.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
It must be the bankers. Funny how most here would rather blame the little guy/working stiff rather than the banks that created this economic downturn.
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Not my intent LM....I'd really rather not shake my head in wonderment at how shallow the premise of this post thread (entered by you) really is. But I can't fix the likes of you and so I'm left with laughing in my living room asking "what'd she say???"
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD
Apparently I'm too stupid to understand why its the little guys fault.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Apparently I'm too stupid to understand why its the little guys fault. You libTURDS are really too stoopid to breathe. Why do you tools hate and despise the real "little guy" who are the TAXPAYERS? Why is it OK for "public employees" to FORCE TAXPAYERS to PAY for their BLOATED pay rates and bennies? Pay rates and bennies for "public employees" which are on average double of the those of the average non public employees make. You KNOW the average non-public employees, the little guys who are TAXPAYERS, the little guys who pay "public employees" every cent that they make? Exactly WHY is it the little guy TAXPAYERS fault that the PIGS have been feeding off of their LABOR and sweat for decades? We have elected useless whores who give the "public employees" every damned thing that they want? You sure are either fence post stupid or just base EVIL, you simpering libTURD whore.
Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!
The Kochsuckers can take the money the taxpayer has paid them and contribute more of it to pension and healthcare plans just like other people are required to do if we want either.
Not everyone is required to do that. It is not uncommon for upper level corporate management to have their retirement, health insurance, life insurance, and what ever else entirely paid for by their employer. Sometimes the corporation even pays their income tax. Just to be fair, complain about that. In other words, defer more of their current income to future payments. I do believe that is how state employees came to have nice retirement checks. Follow your plan and some Fartsky in the future will complain about even larger pension payouts never understanding that it is the employee's very own money grown through investment. Why shouldn't the American people take half my money from me? I took all of it from them. Edward Albert Filene "Filene (of Boston's Filene's Department Stores) founded the U.S. Chamber of Commerce to encourage businesses to contribute to the welfare of their communities. He eventually quit the organization, disappointed that it had become a bastion of right-wing conservatism and an anti-tax lobby."
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
It all boils down to power and keeping it OUT of the hands of the little guy.
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Their employer isn't the TAXPAYER!
My CUSTOMERS pay me. But they only pay me because they value the service I provide. If I provide lousy a service, they'll go somewhere else and stop paying. American public schools provide a lousy service by international standards. Everyone knows this. But we still have to pay! That's the point that you are other leftists just don't get. It's makes me crazy that you don't get it. You never talk about the real issues. To you it's always about the "rich" versus "poor" or the "workers" versus "management", blah, blah, blah... NO. The public schools provide a lousy service. Yet we still have to pay. That's the problem.
No, their employer is the government which is supported by taxpayers. Government employees are also taxpayers - maybe we should lower their pay by the amount of tax they owe and make them tax exempt.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
I am a lifelong and very passionate supporter of unions. United we bargain, divided we beg.
At the expense of our children and America's future? No thanks.
I look at how the loss of unions has stalled income and benefits which means people don't have the funds to fuel the economy, or the money to help their kids with their future. And that tells me we need to develop the tools to deal with the new tactics used in recent decades to fight unionization. Unions make this country stronger. A lack of them has helped create the economic woes we have faced in recent years.
So move to a country with lower taxes and better services. American public schools provide a lousy service by international standards. Everyone knows this. But we still have to pay! Kind of like our medical system - inferior outcomes, higher cost, but You like that just fine cause its private. The average private school tuition in the US is $3,000 more than the average allowed per student for public schools. Non-sectarian school (those not subsidized by a church) is $9,000 more per year. You never talk about the real issues. To you it's always about the "rich" versus "poor" or the "workers" versus "management", blah, blah, blah... It's the Inequality, Stupid You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
So move to a country with lower taxes and better services. Come on LM. Is that really your response. That is laughable. Your second comment is also laughable. The one I didn't quote from.
Me too.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
It is the response his statement deserves. Glad I bring a bit of laughter to your Sunday.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Love it or leave it? You sound like Nixon. This demonstrates once again who the real establishment is. The bureaucrats are in charge and the lowly taxpayers are getting angrier by the day.
I understand that. So did Pol Pot and your other leftist heroes. Yes, the left is all about equality. When they are in power they do a great job of making everyone equally poor and miserable -- everyone of course except the leftist ruling elite. Thanks for being honest about this.
Ah those painful memories of the Clinton poverty years.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
LM doesn't care about reality. She is a leftist loser, unable to think beyond the pap that the propagandists feed her. In other words, she makes the PERFECT sheeple. Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" But Slippery Dick opened up the can of worms we have today, making the world safe for monied globalists. No pain.... no gain, so they say.
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Clinton was not a leftist like you. He cut spending and threw half off the people that were collecting welfare off of the roles.
He also raised taxes and proposed a national health care program. Nice thing was that when Clinton kicked people off of welfare there were jobs for them to go to.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Which went down in flames and allowed Clinton to move to the right and work with the GOP Congress.
A unionized public employee, a teabagger, and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the teabagger and says, 'Watch out for that union guy. He wants a piece of your cookie."
Soros, Obama and Ferret Mike are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. Soros reaches out and takes all 12 cookies and then gives 9 of them to Obama. He tells Obama to give 5 of them to Ferret Mike. Unbeknownst to Ferret Mike the cookie is drugged. When Ferret Mike passes out after eating one cookie, Soros takes the remaining 4.
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain." The Ignore Amos free speech fountain
That is FUNNY! Unfortunately it is also accurate.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
"Allowed" him? That doesn't make any sense. As I recall, Republicans hated Clinton. It was something watching Clinton as the Roadrunner to the Republican's Wile E. Coyote.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
There are two accounts of why workers were seen altering windows at the Capitol in Madison this morning. The first is that many of the windows in the building’s public space have been damaged by protesters and the “locking mechanisms” are being repaired. An alternate view originates at the AFL-CIO blog which insists those aren’t repairs, they’re welds or bolts designed to make it impossible to pass food or other supplies from outside the Capitol through the windows into the hands of those who have made this protest the most effective American political sit-in in decades, maybe since Vietnam." http://foknewschannel.com/february-28-2011/ Keith Olbermann has an interesting take on the worst person of the world, the infamose Gov. Walker. It's typical of this two faced, anti labor prick to do something like blame demonstrators for damage that never existed.
Where did the cookies come from and who put them there?
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain." Where did the cookies come from and who put them there?
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain." God created them, the CEO claimed ownership.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
I doubt that God inserts Himself in such mundane matters, but if He were He certainly would not side with a public employees' union. Or a CEO.
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."Simple. The pension plan is the direct result of deferred compensation- money that employees would have been paid as cash salary but choose, instead, to have placed in the state operated pension fund where the money can be professionally invested (at a lower cost of management) for the future.
#2. To: lucysmom (#1)
The pension plan is the direct result of deferred compensation
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
Godwinson posted on 2011-02-23 11:47:32 ET
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#3. To: lucysmom (#1)
(Edited)
The Wisconsin Lie Exposed – Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Employee Pensions
#4. To: lucysmom (#1)
The pension plan is the direct result of deferred compensation- money that employees would have been paid as cash salary but choose, instead, to have placed in the state operated pension fund where the money can be professionally invested (at a lower cost of management) for the future.
#5. To: hondo68 (#2)
(Edited)
Manna from Heaven, untouched by taxpayer hands!
#6. To: e_type_jag (#3)
Chuckles.....you never cease to amaze us with this sort of simplistic leftard fawning post.
#7. To: hondo68 (#2)
All hail the magic Kenyan, and his Chicago mobsters!
#8. To: lucysmom (#0)
Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Employee Pensions
#9. To: lucysmom (#1)
Simple. The pension plan is the direct result of deferred compensation
#10. To: lucysmom (#0)
How can this be possible?
#11. To: Ibluafartsky (#8)
Who pays the employees fookin salaries, the tooth fairy?
#12. To: mcgowanjm (#9)
And money that is OWED to the worker.
#13. To: lucysmom (#12)
Some seem to think if you work for the government you earn nothing and therefore you are owed nothing.
#14. To: lucysmom (#0)
direct result of deferred compensation- money that employees would have been paid as cash salary but choose, instead, to have placed in the state operated pension fund
#15. To: no gnu taxes (#14)
So instead of getting 125,000 dollars a year paid directly to them, they get 100,000 with 25,000 going to their retirement funds. It still all comes from the taxpayer's pocket. How stupid do you leftards think we all are?
#16. To: no gnu taxes, lucysmom (#14)
So instead of getting 125,000 dollars a year paid directly to them, they get 100,000 with 25,000 going to their retirement funds. It still all comes from the taxpayer's pocket. How stupid do you leftards think we all are?
#17. To: Rek (#16)
The employee is still using their own earned money, so what's the problem?
#18. To: lucysmom (#0)
The Wisconsin Lie Exposed – Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Employee Pensions
#19. To: lucysmom (#0)
#20. To: lucysmom (#0)
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#21. To: calcon (#19)
damn this article clearly shows how leftist economics have put so many states in a financial crisis,
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#22. To: jwpegler (#20)
Then who is paying the bills? The tooth fairy? LOL.
#23. To: lucysmom (#22)
Who pays your bills.
#24. To: lucysmom (#6)
It did give you a chance to LOL and assert your superiority
#25. To: Rek (#23)
Funny how most here would rather blame the little guy/working stiff rather than the banks that created this economic downturn.
#26. To: lucysmom, Rek.ALL normal people also (#25)
Funny how most here would rather blame the little guy/working stiff rather than the banks that reated this economic downturn.
#27. To: lucysmom (#11)
exactly what does you mean?
#28. To: Ibluafartsky (#27)
The Kochsuckers can take the money the taxpayer has paid them and contribute more of it to pension and healthcare plans just like other people are required to do if we want either.
#29. To: lucysmom (#25)
Apparently I'm too stupid to understand why its the little guys fault.
#30. To: lucysmom (#28)
It is not uncommon for upper level corporate management to have their retirement, health insurance, life insurance, and what ever else entirely paid for by their employer.
#31. To: lucysmom, go54, capitalist eric, sneakypete (#22)
(Edited)
Who pays your bills.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#32. To: Ibluafartsky (#30)
Their employer isn't the TAXPAYER!
#33. To: lucysmom (#32)
#34. To: Ferret Mike (#33)
I am a lifelong and very passionate supporter of unions.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#35. To: jwpegler (#34)
#36. To: jwpegler (#31)
My CUSTOMERS pay me. But they only pay me because they value the service I provide. If I provide lousy a service, they'll go somewhere else and stop paying.
#37. To: lucysmom (#36)
My CUSTOMERS pay me. But they only pay me because they value the service I provide. If I provide lousy a service, they'll go somewhere else and stop paying.
#38. To: Ferret Mike (#33)
I am a lifelong and very passionate supporter of unions. United we bargain, divided we beg.
#39. To: A K A Stone (#37)
Come on LM. Is that really your response. That is laughable.
#40. To: lucysmom (#36)
(Edited)
So move to a country with lower taxes and better services.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#41. To: lucysmom (#36)
It's the Inequality, Stupid
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#42. To: jwpegler (#41)
Yes, the left is all about equality. When they are in power they do a great job of making everyone equally poor and miserable -- everyone of course except the leftist ruling elite.
#43. To: jwpegler (#31)
#44. To: jwpegler (#40)
Love it or leave it? You sound like Nixon.
#45. To: lucysmom (#42)
Ah those painful memories of the Clinton poverty years.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#46. To: jwpegler (#45)
He cut spending and threw half off the people that were collecting welfare off of the roles.
#47. To: lucysmom (#46)
He also proposed a national health care program.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#48. To: lucysmom (#46)
#49. To: Ferret Mike (#48)
A unionized public employee, a teabagger, and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the teabagger and says, 'Watch out for that union guy. He wants a piece of your cookie."
~Winston Churchill
#50. To: Ignore Amos (#49)
#51. To: Ferret Mike (#48)
A unionized public employee, a teabagger, and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the teabagger and says, 'Watch out for that union guy. He wants a piece of your cookie."
#52. To: jwpegler (#47)
Which went down in flames and allowed Clinton to move to the right and work with the GOP Congress.
#53. To: lucysmom (#52)
(snip)"But our winner, the increasingly hapless Governor of Wisconsin, Scott Walker, who has now reportedly gone into the office remodeling business.
#54. To: Ferret Mike (#48)
A unionized public employee, a teabagger, and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the teabagger and says, 'Watch out for that union guy. He wants a piece of your cookie."
~Winston Churchill
#55. To: lucysmom (#51)
A unionized public employee, a teabagger, and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the teabagger and says, 'Watch out for that union guy. He wants a piece of your cookie."
~Winston Churchill
#56. To: Ignore Amos (#55)
Where did the cookies come from and who put them there?
#57. To: lucysmom (#56)
God created them, the CEO claimed ownership.
~Winston Churchill
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