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Title: Rep. Allen West vs. Quran-wielding CAIR exec 'I went to Muslim countries to defend the freedom of Muslim people'
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=266849
Published: Feb 23, 2011
Author: WND
Post Date: 2011-02-23 18:53:14 by Mad Dog
Keywords: the truth, hurts, CAIR
Views: 18265
Comments: 32

One of the members of the Class of 2010 in the U.S. House of Representatives has revealed he has little patience for the politically correct arguments that Islam is, in fact, a religion of peace and nonaggression.

"Don't try to blow sunshine up my butt," U.S. Rep. Allen West, R-Fla., warned a member of a town hall meeting audience who had challenged him to identify a single verse in the Quran that tells Muslims to attack America.

The comments came earlier this week at Pompano Beach, Fla., during a question-and-answer time at his meeting. A questioner identified by the Palm Beach Post as Nezar Hamze, executive director for a branch of the Council for American Islamic Relations, confronted West, demanding that he point out where in the Quran are the orders for Muslims to attack America.

"You recently told the Marines that the terrorists that attacked the United States, the people that are attacking America, are following Islam, and they are following the instructions of the Quran," he said.

"So, a very simply question. I'm not going to take a lot of your time. Can you show me one verse in this Quran where it says to attack America, attack Americans, or attack innocent people?" he said.

West noted the Quran was written in the 8th or 9th centuries and America didn't exist at the time, but noted, "The truth is out there." He cited the multiple Quranic references to attack and kill "infidels."

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He started listing a series of battles before he was drowned out by applause and cheering from the audience.

"It (Islam) became violent," West continued when the cheering died down. "Something happened when Mohammed enacted the Isra, and he left Mecca and went out to Medina. It became violent. You explain it to me.

"Maj. Hasan was shouting allahu akbar. The people that flew those planes … were shouting allahu akbar. I've been on the battlefield my friend," he said.

"Don't try to blow sunshine up my butt and tell me…..," he said, to more applause.

The Muslim activist responded, "I'm ashamed to be here with all of these people when you attack Islam, you attack…"

An audience member interrupted with, "You attacked us!"

West said, "I went to Muslim countries to try to defend the freedom of Muslim people. Don't come up here to try to criticize me. Put the microphone down and go home."

A video of the exchange has been posted online by Shark- Tank.net:

West's references were to Maj. Nidal Hasan, who is accused of shooting and killing more than a dozen members of the U.S. military at Fort Hood, as well as the terrorists who hijacked jets on Sept. 11, 2001, and flew them into the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon, killing almost 3,000.

Those commenting on the Shark-Tank.net site were more than enthusiastic about West's response.

"You tell 'em Allen!" said one. "You are a true patriot!"

Added another, "Talk about a keeper!! Go West!! This is EXACTLY the kind of straight talking that is needed."

"It was a great opportunity to see a polished professional man lay out America's need to be alert to our enemies within," said a third.

Added Beverly Perlson, of The Band of Mothers, "When Muslims come out and denounce stoning women and babies, when Muslims come [out] and denounce beating women and babies, when Muslims come and denounce honor killings, and so many other sordid and cruel Muslim practices, until then, don't expect Americans to embrace Muslims. Your way of life goes against everything that is beautiful and free about this great country America! Americans will not tolerate child abuse and beating and stoning women and children!!!"

"Go West for POTUS," said another.

PostonPolitics.com, reported West actually addressed that issue.

"We can't have leadership by a cult of personality. I have to prove myself. I have to prove myself as an American statesman, a capable legislator," West said. "Everyone knows how I feel about this country. But there are some things that I have to learn about the inner workings and machinations of Washington, D.C., so that I can be an effective leader."

On that blog's comment page was more support for West: "This man is pure awsomeness! (sic)," said Tom B.

"2012 can't come fast enough. Run Allen Run," said constitution101.

"A CAIR terrorism-supporting Islamofascist trys to intimidate an American who knows all about fascist Islam with a grade school stunt. Pure Gold," said February 22. As WND reported in 2003, West was threatened with court-martial for tactics he used to flush out information from an uncooperative Iraqi policeman. Threatening to kill the Iraqi if he didn't talk, West fired a pistol near the policeman's head, producing an immediate flood of information that purportedly led to the arrest of two insurgents and cessation of attacks on West's 4th Infantry Division battalion.

In a 2008 interview with WND, West said his 2003 ordeal should tell voters what kind of a lawmaker he would be, particularly when it comes to issues of defense.

"If you're a bad guy, and you try to get between me and the safety and lives of American citizens, you're going to lose," West said.

Army prosecutors charged West with aggravated assault, and he faced the possibility of up to eight years in prison. At a hearing, West was asked by his defense attorney if he would do it again.

"If it's about the lives of my men and their safety, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can," he said.

West eventually accepted a nonjudicial punishment and the forfeiture of two months' pay. He retired from the military and moved with his wife, Angela, and two young daughters to Broward County, Florida, where he taught high school. He served in Afghanistan as an adviser to the Afghan army until November 2007.

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#2. To: Mad Dog (#0)

World Nuts Daily

It is a mere Internet rag based on bullshit, designed by bullshitters with authors that are full of bullshit and fed to dawgs that enjoy smelling bullshit like you.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-23   19:02:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#2)

World Nuts Daily

It is a mere Internet rag based on bullshit, designed by bullshitters with authors that are full of bullshit and fed to dawgs that enjoy smelling bullshit like you.

If you side with CAIR over West,you should just come right out and say so.

If you are too ashamed of siding with CAIR to admit it,maybe you should reconsider who you side with?

sneakypete  posted on  2011-02-24   7:01:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#4)

I can tell your entrapped personality just by the confinement of your own questions. Let me parse each of them.

If you side with CAIR over West,you should just come right out and say so.

I don't side with CAIR so why would you assume so? Because I put Mad Dog in its place because of its incepid posting by World Nuts Daily? WND has consistently lied to EVERYONE using Corsi as an original author; not one of his writings over the years has seen any traction or truth. WND is a fabrication for wishful thinkers whether you think so or not.

If you are too ashamed of siding with CAIR to admit it,maybe you should reconsider who you side with?

I note the way you create your own question based on shame. I think you are agree with World Nuts Daily as a co-host.

So lets cut to the fucking core of your complaint. West has consistently sided with Zionists in their own pursuit of eliminating Palestinnians from their own farms and livlihood while Israel expands its borders illegally.

West has also publically stated that he is for MORE US economic and military aid to Israel irrespective of any outcome based on objective truth, science or any other foundation other than being another evangelanical religious fanatic.

Now, let me sum up your questions in a way you can understand: Go fuck yourself zealot.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-24   15:00:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#5)

while Israel expands its borders illegally.

You don't believe in sovereign nations. You believe in Americas enemy the UN. Sad but true. Wake up Buckeroo.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-25   20:01:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#9)

Wake up?

You are still in bed wiping your groggy eyes while I have studied this situation for decades; unlike a lot of folks that take sides in the issues because of USA/UN interference here since 1948; it is all changing rapidly.

The decades old meddling in the ME, particularly in Israel by the USA is going to haunt ALL Americans. And this West fellow thinks the same tired policies can be used again and again on political and military fronts because he read the Holy Bible.

Well, folks, all the USA has done was cause trouble. Your taxpayer dollars went down the shithole of stinkin' the world up.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-25   20:08:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo (#11)

Buck I have been studying this issue for decades too. You apparently didn't learn anything. Israel is our only true ally in the region.

Do you think when (theoretically) muslims take over Israel they will be satisfied stopping there? If you do I have a used diaper to sell you. It's hersheys I promise.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-25   20:34:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#12)

Israel is our only true ally in the region.

It must be an ally. It has been the 51st state of the USA since 1947; particularly since America has forced American taxpayers to tithe Israel about one trillion dollars in direct foreign aid and subsidies from that time to the present. If it was a measurable quantity, the USA has supplied TRILLIONS in indirect aid, as well.

And through that time, the strife has increased and the USA has become more involved in wars that go nowhere. As a nation, the USA is more vulnerable than ever before from external and internal enemies.

Who needs a friend like Israel? Especially since they are half-way around the world, far removed from our own internal affairs.... well with the exception of Israeli citizens creating our domestic and foreign policies ... and AIPAC and ADL.

Yeah, we got a lot of friends there.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-25   20:48:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeroo (#14)

It must be an ally. It has been the 51st state of the USA since 1947; particularly since America has forced American taxpayers to tithe Israel about one trillion dollars in direct foreign aid

You're nuts. Go back to grade school and learn to add. If you can't do simple addition, I 'd hate to see you try multiplication or division.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-27   8:38:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#17)

You're nuts. Go back to grade school and learn to add. If you can't do simple addition, I 'd hate to see you try multiplication or division.

Such a nice little forum manager with gracious posting publick etiquette for the world to see. Quick question: when are WE having our first fund raiser to save Liberty'sFlame?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-27   20:13:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeroo (#24)

Buck you said we gave them a trillion. That is nuts.

Billions and billions...Yes. A trillion no.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-27   20:40:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#26)

Buck you said we gave them a trillion.

Israel has received more than a trillion; the reasons are because of the HUGE US posture about Israel in the UN and around the ME. The amounts can't be accurately stated because the USA doesn't posture the spending based upon specific line items within the budget.

Billions and billions...Yes.

In contemporary America, you (as a lowly tax-slave to the US government) MUST tithe nearly 4 BN/yr; this has been going on for the last ten years and is perpetuated FOREVER. So, the minimum limit I set is 40Bn in this century, alone.

Going back another 50+ years is at least another 200 Bn in direct loans, grants and military aid.

From your perspective this gracious US taxpayer offering is a sign of love for our fellow man around the world in need of help and benefit. Yet, the tally grows because of direct support to the UN (ME operations), direct aid to Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, Iraq (yes Iran when was President with the Shah) and piles of other operations such as is ongoing with Afghanistan.

The US created the UN. It is largely instrumental with the creation of artificial nations such as Israel.

It has cost the USA trillions of dollars with no relief in sight over the last 60 years unless we cut the head off these blood suckers NOW.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-27   21:00:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeroo (#29)

Buckeroo. Rand Paul is who I want to see run for President. Do you know his position on these issues? They pretty much mirror mine.

I still think your nuber of a trillion is way off the mark. Have we wasted to much money on foreign aid to all nations. Certainly we have.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-27   21:10:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#31. To: A K A Stone (#30)

I still think your nuber (sic) of a trillion is way off the mark.

?

Its TRILLION(S) pal. That is a plural sum.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-27 21:19:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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