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Title: Romney and the Birthers
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URL Source: http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot ... 11/02/romney-and-birthers.html
Published: Feb 15, 2011
Author: Tom Jensen
Post Date: 2011-02-15 20:38:26 by Skip Intro
Keywords: None
Views: 9312
Comments: 11

Birtherism is alive and well within the GOP ranks, and their 2012 nominee preferences tell a story about the difficulty Mitt Romney faces in trying to appeal to an electorate that's a whole lot further out there than he is.

Birthers make a majority among those voters who say they're likely to participate in a Republican primary next year. 51% say they don't think Barack Obama was born in the United States to just 28% who firmly believe that he was and 21% who are unsure. The GOP birther majority is a new development. The last time PPP tested this question nationally, in August of 2009, only 44% of Republicans said they thought Obama was born outside the country while 36% said that he definitely was born in the United States. If anything birtherism is on the rise.

How does this impact Romney? Well among the 49% of GOP primary voters who either think Obama was born in the United States or aren't sure, Romney's the first choice to be the 2012 nominee by a good amount, getting 23% to 16% for Mike Huckabee, 11% for Sarah Palin, and 10% for Newt Gingrich. But with the birther majority he's in a distant fourth place at 11%, with Mike Huckabee at 24%, Sarah Palin at 19%, and Newt Gingrich at 14% all ahead of him. That pushes him into a second place finish overall at 17% with Mike Huckabee again leading the way this month at 20%. Palin's third with 15%, followed by Gingrich at 12%, Ron Paul at 8%, Mitch Daniels and Tim Pawlenty at 4%, and John Thune at 1%.

There is really a remarkable divide in how the birther and non-birther wings of the GOP view Sarah Palin. With the birthers she is a beloved figure, scoring an 83/12 favorability rating. Non-birthers are almost evenly divided on her with 47% rating her positively and 40% unfavorably.

This is yet another poll where we find Palin with the highest favorability among Republican primary voters but still lagging in the horse race. 65% have a positive opinion of her compared to 58% for Huckabee and 55% for Romney and Gingrich. Her problem is that even though they like her, few GOP voters think Palin's qualified to be President. Asked whether she's more qualified to be President or Vice President, only 29% of voters place her in the top spot compared to 46% who say she'd be a more appropriate number 2.

On the President/Vice President qualification question only Romney reaches a majority on the qualified to be President card with 50% saying he's most equipped for that position to 24% who think he'd make a better Vice President. Huckabee has 44% who think he's suited to be President to 28% who think he'd fit more in the VP slot, and Gingrich has 27% who consider him more Presidential to 37% that think he's more Vice Presidential.

It's a clear sign of weakness for the GOP field that only one of its leading potential candidates is considered to be Presidential material even by a majority of the party base. Subscribe to *Elections 2012*

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#1. To: Skip Intro (#0)

Mitts has provided Zero proof that his Mexican born father (George), had renounced his allegiance prior to Mitt's birth. Mitt could well be 1/4 messycan.

He's intelligible unless he comes up with his fathers naturalization papers, and they're dated prior to Mitt's birth.

Mitt's got the same problem as hObama, foreign allegiance of one parent. There could be the additional issue of hObama not being born in the US, like the Panamanian McCain.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-02-15   21:23:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Skip Intro (#0)

romney isn't a natural born citizen according to the birthers, his family moved to Mexico to engage in polygamy. His father is Mexican.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-16   0:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#2)

Where was Romney born?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-16   7:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3) (Edited)

Where was Romney born?

He was born in Detroit. His father was born in Mexico (his great grandfather moved the family there in the 1880's to escape anti-Polygamy laws in the U.S.). The came back across the border to escape the Mexican revolution.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-16   8:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: go65 (#4)

If you think Romney isn't a citizen that is tantamount to admitting that Obama isn't one.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-16   8:17:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#5)

Mitt Romney: Anchor Baby? « Blogs 4 Brownback (2007)>> libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=17575

The requirements for president go beyond just being a US citizen, you've got to be a "natural born" one. I posted an article here (above) on anchor baby mitt.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-02-16   9:49:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#6)

I'm not a Romney supporter.

When did his grandfather renounce his citizenship?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-16   10:19:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#7) (Edited)

When did his grandfather renounce his citizenship?

He may never have done so, but was married to Anna Pratt (Mitt's grandmother) in Mexico.

Ask any Mexican born person if they're a citizen of Mexico, and they'll say yes. They have allegiance to Mexico, and consider themselves dual citizens at best. There's thousands of them marching in the streets waving Mexican flags, and demanding amnesty for their fellow countrymen.

Becoming a naturalized citizen requires that they renounce that foreign allegiance. That's why we need to see George Romney's naturalization papers, or some other renunciation of allegiance to Mexico.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-02-16   10:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: go65 (#2)

romney isn't a natural born citizen according to the birthers

I know. I also know the birthers are morons.

Should be an interesting election season coming up.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-16   11:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#5)

If you think Romney isn't a citizen that is tantamount to admitting that Obama isn't one.

I said he's not a natural born citizen according to the birthers.

I'm not a birther. IMHO Romney, by virtue of being born in the U.S., is a natural born citizen.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-16   14:50:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#7)

From what I learned of the polygamists when I was in a Utah Army National Guard S.F. unit, none of those going to Mexico ever renounced citizenship.

Personally, with all the gray area concerning Utah as they were trying to make it U.S. territory/state ready goes, I consider the polygamists Americans even if they went into exile. And as Mitt was born here in the U.S. as Barack Obama was, of course he's a citizen.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-16   15:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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