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Title: German Firm To Buy NYSE
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Orlando Business Journal
URL Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/ ... 2/german-firm-to-buy-nyse.html
Published: Feb 11, 2011
Author: Orlando Business Journal
Post Date: 2011-02-11 13:50:59 by Brian S
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Comments: 42
Although the deal is still subject to regulatory approval, Deutsche Börse AG is near to closing a $25 billion buyout of the New York Stock Exchange, reports the Wall Street Journal. The product of the merger would be the world's largest stock exchange, and would diminish New York's role in world financial markets.
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#4. To: Brian S, jwpegler, capitalist eric, go65, lucysmom (#0)
Told you so (Christian democracy and he social market are superior to the Ronald Reaganomics ideology)....... http://www.social-europe.eu/2010/08/angela-merkel-the-world’s-‘most-valuable-leader’/ Angela Merkel: The World’s ‘Most Valuable Leader’ Forget Barack Obama. Forget the Hu Jintao/Wen Jiaboa duo, or David Cameron or Vladimir Putin. Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel is the world’s most important leader. The latest report showing Germany’s economy growing at a blistering annual rate of nearly 9%, well into recovery from a US-made economic collapse, is just further evidence of the obvious. Despite her carping critics who have bizarrely accused her of dithering, economic malpractice and über-nationalism, Frau Merkel right now is standing head and shoulders above the pack. If we selected a planetary MVL – Most Valuable Leader – she would be it. Following the economic crisis, Chancellor Merkel and French president Nicolas Sarkozy proposed sweeping regulatory changes, including a redesign of the international architecture of financial institutions. Using the subtle, coded language of diplomacy, they warned the new Obama administration not to block their attempts to crack down on hedge funds and derivatives, as well as on the corrupt rating agencies, outrageous bank bonuses and more. Is there any doubt that the foot-dragging US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner would have dithered even more had he not been pushed – shoved, more like it – by the Europeans, led by Merkel? Keeping in mind that Merkel is the leader of the conservatives in Germany, her defence of ‘social Germany’ has been no less eloquent and thoughtful than that of her Social Democrat predecessor, Gerhard Schröder. During this economic crisis and even before, she reasserted Germany’s desire to ‘retain essential elements of . . . social protection’ and ‘secure the future of the social market economy.’ She has continued to support works councils and worker-elected boards of directors of Germany’s major corporations, and maintained the ‘culture of consultation’ that has become a hallmark of Germany’s social capitalism. You would never catch any Democrat, even President Obama, making such bold declarations or proposals in support of the social dimensions of the US economy. At times, Merkel sounds like the FDR that many wanted Obama to be. It hasn’t been mere Merkel rhetoric to win votes, either. Rather than twiddling her thumbs while the private sector laid off millions of workers, like the Obama administration has done, Merkel’s government expanded Kurzarbeit, or ‘short-time work’, in which, instead of laying off millions, Germany spread the pain around by having employees work shorter weeks. Most of the workers’ lost wages have been made up from a special fund squirreled away during more prosperous times. In other words, instead of the government paying people not to work, as in US-style layoffs, it paid people to keep working, but at reduced hours. The impact has been darn near miraculous. According to OECD figures, while the unemployment rate in the US has more than doubled to almost 10%, and the unemployment rate for all OECD countries has increased by 3 percentage points, the unemployment rate in Germany has declined by 0.9 percentage points to 7.0% in May 2010. More Germans have money in their pockets, maintaining levels of consumer spending that drive the economy, and communities and households haven’t been decimated by layoffs like they have been in the United States. Businesses’ workforce has been kept intact, ready to strive for increased production now that the economic recovery has begun. Yet when Larry Summers, one of Barack Obama’s closest economic advisers, was asked why the president didn’t pursue short-time work to stem the economic bleeding, he dismissed the idea, saying the White House wanted to create new jobs, not preserve old ones – as if there is a conflict between those two aims. Leading European conservatives like Merkel and French president Sarkozy support the notion that corporations have social obligations. For all intents and purposes, the conservatives of Europe are now social democrats, even if not Social Democrats. The European political parties of the centre-right, and in many ways even the far-right, are to the left of the Democratic Party in the United States. Germany is not the land of Citizens United, that horrible recent US Supreme Court decision that expanded the jurisprudence that says corporations have individual rights like people do, further undermining the social dimension of America’s political economy. Indeed, when Volkswagen, which is the largest carmaker in Europe and is 20 percent owned by the German state government of Lower Saxony (where Volkswagen is based), wanted to abolish Lower Saxony’s blocking minority rights, Merkel sided with the state government, a position that would be anathema to an American conservative, or even most Democrats. Merkel’s economic stewardship has steered Germany further away from the American path of Wall Street’s casino capitalism. In particular, the Germans believe that a manufacturing economy with strong stakeholder rights is the best hope for getting away from a type of capitalism that is over reliant on financial speculation and has led to such catastrophic bubbles. Merkel was once asked by then British Prime Minister Tony Blair what the secret was of her country’s economic success, which includes being the world’s largest exporter and running substantial trade surpluses in recent years. She famously replied, ‘Mr Blair, we still make things’. In Germany, manufacturing still dominates finance because Deutschland capitalism didn’t succumb to the financialisation of the economy that swept the United States and Britain in the 1980s under Reagan and Thatcher. In the US, this led to a tripling in the size of the financial sector as a percentage of both the overall economy and of corporate profits, as well as a loss of millions of manufacturing jobs. Werner Abelshauser, an economic historian at the University of Bielefeld in Germany, says the European way of running the economy ‘is fundamentally about a banking system based on patient capital and firms that emphasise high-quality products and long-term relationships between suppliers and customers’. At this point, the results speak for themselves. The smart policies of the shrewd Frau Merkel’s government have contributed to Germany’s recent economic success, while the timid policies of the Obama administration so far have led to a lacklustre economic recovery.
There are a whole lot of people in this country who believe that we have to build things to remain prosperous including Pat Buchanan, Donald Trump, and myself. We still build software. We still build airplanes. Our micro-electronics business has almost completely disappeared overseas with the Japanese innovating and the Taiwanese and Chinese running production. Merkel is the most Conservative Chancellor Germany has had in the post-WWII period. She has pushed through enormous reforms, including slashing the corporate tax rate. Please, don't be stupid and point to her as some sort of socialist icon. She's not. Your buddies on the left in Germany HATE her. Germany still has issues as well, especially their hidebound labor laws that make it difficult for people to leave their jobs and move to new companies. It took my company two years to get rid of an under-performing General Manager and replace him. Insofar as the "financialization" of the economy is concerned, no one did more to turn the economy over to Wall Street than Clinton, whose administration was completely run by Goldman Sacs, under the direction of Bob Rubin.
You keep thinking I am a "Democrat" or something like that or a 'leftist". I have stated repeatedly I am a Conservative of the "Social Market" + "Christian democrat" variety and to me - being that I have lived in both the USA and Europe - I find the American "conservative" as he has become these last 10 years to be bat shit crazy.
I've been in 26 countries. I've been in Germany more than 20 times. European conservatives do not talk like you do. You're nothing more than a lying propagandist whose sole purpose is to bash conservatives. Everyone on this board who has half of a brain understands this very clearly.
They talk just like me. Want to see them say stuff on record calling George Bush's America a shit hole? or this: If consumer-driven growth was the order of the day in the post-World War II era, in the new era of Pax Germania it will be steady-state economic growth — not too fast, but not too slowly — and producing value-added products that the rest of the world wants to buy. Utilizing more conservation and renewable energy technologies than the United States, Germany already has reduced its carbon footprint to half that of America’s — and it provides universal health care and has less inequality.
It can be summed up easily. We have been run by baby boomers for the last 20 years. Then the african.
No. We have been run by Reaganomics deregulators for the last 30 years. If you support deregulating business and shrinking govt from oversight of business as somehow killing business you are the one responsible for the collapse of the economy because you gave ideological support to the Wall Street financiers and the corporations who offshored America to death.
Clinton and the Republicans passed NAFTA. Not Reagan. And before you say Reagan proposed NAFTA. Not the version we got.
Reagan never met a law that helped corporations rake in bucks at the expense of their workers or society he did not like. In any case I am arguing that Reagan created the lake we all swam in these last 30 years - and that lake is now toxic. He is the genesis of this failed system. Just like the system Lenin created was not the same as the system Stalin made - but Lenin started Stalin down that path.
Yep and thanks to Reagan, the 80s and 90s where a great period in American history. Unfortunately Bush / Obama have centralized government more than anyone since LBJ. That's the problem.
You mean when America lost her manufacturing to China? I am sure it was a great period for Chinese manufacturing and American credit card businesses.
The U.S. is still the largest manufacturer in the world. China has been catching up quickly after Reagan left office because they support their businesses while U.S. leftists have saddled American businesses with the highest corporate tax rates in the world and one of the most onerous regulatory systems. Again, you propagandize. I state facts.
LOL!!!!
Look at the graph bozo. You propagandize. I state facts.
You propagandize. I state facts. That includes mining - China is resource poor - and utilities as in power generation - they count that as manufacturing also. I am pretty sure they count tree growing as manufacturing as well and coal mine output is included in the USA numbers. In any case, that skews the figures to make it seem like America produces more goods than China - but it does not do so. Clearly utilities is the major factor in the chart variance between manufacture and export because the USA exports very little energy abroad.
Wrong again bozo China produces almost three times the amount of coal than we do. You need to stop embarrassing yourself. You propagandize. I state facts.
We are talking about dollar amount not volume.
You can't weasel your way out of this bozo. You said "China is resource poor" and that the manufacturing data I produced was skewed because it included America's vast coal production. I demonstrated that China produces almost 3 times as much coal as we do. You propagandize. I state facts. You are just another know-nothing leftist dipshit of the kind that destroyed our schools, shut down our nuclear industry, given us the highest corporate tax rates in the world, and are now trying to scare us back to the stone age with "global warming". Americans have awakened. No one is listening to you clowns any more.
#42. To: jwpegler (#41)
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You said "China is resource poor" China has to import its coal... http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90778/7274971.html China imported 164.83 million tons of coal in 2010, up 30.99 percent on the previous year and coal exports declined 15.03 percent for the same period to 19.03 million tons, the Beijing News reported Thursday, citing data from the nation's top economic planner. Citibank issued a report earlier, predicting China's net coal imports will surge to 63 percent this year to over 200 million tons, due to the nation's strong demand and high dependence on coal as energy. Coal industry insiders also believe China will see more coal imports this year, the report said. --- With that said, it is recognized that China is not self sufficient in goods for lots of things and needs to import raw goods like timber. Also, your attempt to say America still is a manufacturing powerhouse is skewed because included in that is energy manufacturing and mine operations. That is like the Bush admin trying to include burger making as part of manufacturing statistics. What we have is scumbags like you that spin data like you do to make it seem America is OK as is - when you are not saying America is not OK as is in your previous posts extolling Germany. You are a base villian who has helped the oligarchs destroy America by allowing them to play you like a fiddle.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestThe product of the merger would be the world's largest stock exchange, and would diminish New York's role in world financial markets.
#6. To: Godwinson (#4)
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the Germans believe that a manufacturing economy with strong stakeholder rights is the best hope for getting away from a type of capitalism that is over reliant on financial speculation
#10. To: jwpegler, Abu el Banat (#6)
Insofar as the "financialization" of the economy is concerned, no one did more to turn the economy over to Wall Street than Clinton, whose administration was completely run by Goldman Sacs, under the direction of Bob Rubin.
#14. To: Godwinson (#10)
I have stated repeatedly I am a Conservative of the "Social Market"
#16. To: jwpegler (#14)
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European conservatives do not talk like you do.
#17. To: Godwinson (#16)
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#21. To: A K A Stone (#17)
It can be summed up easily. We have been run by baby boomers for the last 20 years.
#22. To: Godwinson (#21)
financiers and the corporations who offshored America to death.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#22)
Clinton and the Republicans passed NAFTA. Not Reagan. And before you say Reagan proposed NAFTA. Not the version we got.
#30. To: Godwinson (#25)
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Reagan created the lake we all swam in these last 30 years
#32. To: jwpegler (#30)
Yep and thanks to Reagan, the 80s and 90s where a great period in American history.
#33. To: Godwinson (#32)
(Edited)
You mean when America lost her manufacturing to China?
#34. To: jwpegler (#33)
The U.S. is still the largest manufacturer in the world.
#35. To: Godwinson (#34)
LOL!!!!
#36. To: jwpegler (#35)
Look at the graph bozo.
#37. To: Godwinson (#36)
(Edited)
China is resource poor - and utilities as in power generation... coal mine output is included in the USA numbers.
#40. To: jwpegler (#37)
China produces almost three times the amount of coal than we do.
#41. To: Godwinson, capitalist eric, go65 (#40)
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We are talking about dollar amount not volume.
Replies to Comment # 41. You can't weasel your way out of this bozo.
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