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Title: SC hyphenated American Dem Senator: we need the illegal Mexicans "because 'brothers' don't work as hard"
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The Un News
URL Source: http://www.thesunnews.com/2011/02/0 ... ords-racial-remarks-cause.html
Published: Feb 9, 2011
Author: Yvonne Wenger - The (Charleston) Post
Post Date: 2011-02-09 07:45:39 by Happy Quanzaa
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Comments: 36
S.C. Sen. Ford's racial remarks cause stir
COLUMBIA -- Charleston's black Democratic senator has created a racial storm once again with his notorious mouth.
In a debate over hardening the South Carolina's anti-illegal immigration law, Sen. Robert Ford argued against a new law because "brothers" don't work as hard as "Mexicans."
Ford said during a Senate committee meeting Tuesday that the state needs immigrants to fill hard labor jobs, such as construction jobs at the new Boeing Co. plant in North Charleston, because black Americans won't do the work.
"I know brothers - and I'm talking about black guys - they are not going to do the dirty work at Boeing, to do that hauling and all that building, that dirty work," Ford said.
He went on to say that "brothers" do not want to perform hard work. "A brother is going to find ways to take a break," he said.
He later made a comment about "blue-eyed brothers" also not wanting to work hard.
Ford opposes the immigration bill, which he said would harm the state.
He was immediately scorned by black leaders as well as state Republicans and Democrats, and called on to apologize. But the five-term senator stuck by his comments. He said his remarks taken in full context were not intended to single out blacks for having a poor work ethic.
Americans, of any ethnic group, whose families have been in the country for generations work as doctors or lawyers or school teachers, he said.
"I was talking about the building of America and how every generation of Americans did the hard work," Ford said. "Americans are not going to do real hard work. Everybody in America knows that."
Dot Scott, president of the Charleston branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said the fact that the comments were made by a black man in a position of prominence is especially upsetting to the black community.
"It's unfortunate that he would say something that negative about African-American males," Scott said. "I don't think they really are his brothers. If they were he wouldn't be saying that."
Scott did not ask Ford to apologize. She said to do so wouldn't be fruitful.
"I am not high on apologies," Scott said. "People usually say what they mean. I don't think it would do any good to even ask him for an apology."
Both Carol Fowler, the state Democratic Party chairwoman, and Joel Sawyer, executive director of the state Republican Party, said Ford should apologize.
"It's disgusting and abhorrent that any elected official would say something that offensive," Sawyer said. "He needs to apologize immediately and hopefully the condemnation of his comments will be equally as loud from both sides of the political aisle."
Fowler said Ford's comments are offensive to all.
"I think he should apologize, but I think he shouldn't have said it in the first place," she said.
Ford said he does not mind apologizing, but in this case he said he does not know why anyone would be offended by his comments.
"What am I apologizing for? I made a lot of jokes in my presentation like I always do," Ford said.
Ford said people who don't have a sense of humor "need to get a life. I am not going to stop bringing a sense of humor."
This is not the first time Ford's comments have caused a stir. Ford was blasted for his 2007 prediction that then-candidate Barack Obama would drag down the whole Democratic ticket - a prediction he said has since come true.
Despite Ford's comments, the Senate Judiciary Committee agreed to send the illegal immigration reform bill to the full Senate for consideration.
The bill would require police officers to check the immigration status of people they arrest, stop for a traffic violation or question on suspicion of breaking the law. The legislation also would give residents the ability to sue their police and sheriff's departments if they believe the local law enforcement officials are ignoring the state mandate.
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the wetbacks only appear to be hard working because they take 8 hours to do something that an american can do in 1.
#2. To: calcon (#1) (Edited)
My experience is the opposite. I hired a "Hispanic" plumber who did in 2 days for $1200.00 what "American" plumbers told me would take 5 for $6500.00.
I hired an American to install a patio door. After telling me he'd be there between 7:30 and 8, He showed up at 10:15, took lunch at 12, came back at two and wanted to leave me with a gaping hole in my wall at 4. I told him to keep working or be fired. He said "fire me". I did. I hired the Hispanic guy - who I also had doing some stuff for me as I was redoing the kitchen and who had done my plumbing. He was there at 8 the next day and done by 11.
BTW, you live in CA. I know a lot of people out there around LA and SFO who hire HIspanic labor over white for the reason I listed above. The Hispanics do it quickly, competently and cheaply.
#3. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)
He later made a comment about "blue-eyed brothers" also not wanting to work hard.
Why should he apologize? He was telling the absolute truth. Most of the under 40 whites I know wouldn't work in a pie factory if they could avoid it,and most of the blacks wouldn't work in a crack lab if they could avoid it.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
#4. To: calcon (#1)
the wetbacks only appear to be hard working because they take 8 hours to do something that an american can do in 1.
That's the biggest steaming pile of horseBarack I have seen in a while.
Or as I told one local subcontractor I had been waiting on for two years to come build a enclosed porch for me that was bitching about "the goddamn Mexicans taking jobs away from me!" in a local store one day,"Yep,you're right about that. They show up on time,they are sober when they show up,and they do what you tell them to do. How the hell are people like you supposed to compete with people like that?".
He didn't seem to be all that amused,but everybody else in the store got a good laugh out of it.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
#5. To: sneakypete (#4)
That's the biggest steaming pile of horseBarack I have seen in a while.
thanks are moving my post back to number two on the horseshit meter, you wetback lovers make up any goddamn excuse you can to justify your using ILLEGAL labor, admit you're just a cheapo who wants to save a few bucks.
I got bids on sodding my backyards and all the estimates (including the pricks who employ illegals) the lowest bid I got was 1200, I hired two white AMERICAN college kids and they did the job in 3 hours for $300. I gave them an extra hundred cause they did such a good job.
So keep hiring the wetbacks and then convince yourself that they do a good job.
#6. To: war (#2)
BTW, you live in CA. I know a lot of people out there around LA and SFO who hire HIspanic labor over white for the reason I listed above. The Hispanics do it quickly, competently and cheaply.
Sorry but I don't condone illegal activity and won't pay some wetback to do a job an american can do better. Those cheap pricks think they're saving a buck is all it is.
I love the assclowns who hire mexicans for yard work, they've got such beautiful yards in mexico.
#7. To: calcon (#6)
Sorry but I don't condone illegal activity...
I have no idea of the immigrationi status of the Hispanic I hired. My hiring him has broken no laws.
As for saving a buck, only if the value in return makes it worth that savings. Hiring someone for specialized at 600 bucks a day versus a grand only makes sense if there is no step down in quality.
#8. To: calcon (#6)
I love the assclowns who hire mexicans for yard work, they've got such beautiful yards in mexico.
Yes they do...
#9. To: calcon (#5)
, you wetback lovers make up any goddamn excuse you can to justify your using ILLEGAL labor, admit you're just a cheapo who wants to save a few bucks.
Fuck you,shithead. I don't hire illegals,period. That's why it took me over 2 years to get my workshop wired. I insisted on hiring Americans,and it took me that long to find a electrician that is a citizen who was hungry enough to take on a job too small to sub it out to illegal aliens so they would do the work under his license and he get to keep half the pay.
I'm just not so blind or pigheaded that I refuse to accept the reality that most times they ARE better workers than most of the lazy ass 'murikans out there that refuse to work.
I hired two white AMERICAN college kids and they did the job in 3 hours for $300. I gave them an extra hundred cause they did such a good job.
Yeah,I can see why you hired white college kids to work such a high tech complicated job like sodding your yard. It's also refreshing to see you brag about how you managed to even pay them less than illegal aliens.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
#10. To: war (#8)
Where is your picture taken. Who is the Mexican crew that worked on that yard? What did you google to find that picture?
Just because there is a picture of someplace allegedly in Mexico doesn't mean that the work was done by Mexicans.
#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)
You haven't ever been to Mexico, have you?
I've been there a dozen + times.
#12. To: Fred Mertz (#11)
I've been to Mexico. Not sure how many times. I used to live 10 miles from Mexico in El Paso.
What is your point?
My point isn't that Mexicans can do good yard work because they can.
My point is that wars picture doesn't prove anything.
#13. To: A K A Stone (#10)
Where is your picture taken.
Mexico.
#14. To: war (#13)
That is only one answer. How did you find the picture, meaning what did you type in google to find it?
Who was the lawn crew that worked on the yard?
#15. To: A K A Stone (#12)
You're as dumb as a stump post.
I've seen Mexicans raking the seashore sands at resort hotels. They can cut tobacco too in this country.
#16. To: Fred Mertz (#15)
That picture doesn't prove who did the yard work. Maybe they were from Honduras or El Salvador.
The point is that the picture proves nothing.
#17. To: war (#2)
I hired a "Hispanic" plumber
Congratulations asshole.
#18. To: A K A Stone (#16)
The point is that the picture proves nothing.
Are you saying that the old adage a picture is worth a thousand words is a false premise?
What would you do if you saw some local latinas dancing in bikini bathing suits pruning the bushes, would that convince you?
#19. To: John Hancock (#18)
no buckeroo it wouldn't
#20. To: A K A Stone (#14) (Edited)
#21. To: A K A Stone (#14) (Edited)
That is only one answer.
How many did you believe were necessary?
Calcon has zipola idea if the Hispanic workers he sees doing lawns are Mexican. He did, however, make an observation about Mexican lawns.
How did you find the picture, meaning what did you type in google to find it?
Ocum's Razor:
"Mexican lawns" in images.
Who was the lawn crew that worked on the yard?
Did you vacation there recently?
Why would it matter to Calcon's observation about Mexican lawns?
#22. To: calcon (#21)
PING to above.
#23. To: sneakypete (#9)
Yeah,I can see why you hired white college kids to work such a high tech complicated job like sodding your yard. It's also refreshing to see you brag about how you managed to even pay them less than illegal aliens.
shove it where the sun doesn't shine pedro
#24. To: war (#21)
war, you call that a beautiful yard? You'd get a notice from my home owner's association if you let your yard run down like that.
You can buy those cheap ass palm trees for 50 bucks at home depot.
#25. To: calcon (#24) (Edited)
war, you call that a beautiful yard?
yes.
You'd get a notice from my home owner's association if you let your yard run down like that.
I don't believe that they are in to Pink Flamingos and Rainbow twirlies in Mexico.
You can buy those cheap ass palm trees for 50 bucks at home depot.
Not at mine.
#26. To: calcon (#24)
You can buy those cheap ass palm trees for 50 bucks at home depot.
Not that size.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
#27. To: calcon (#23)
shove it where the sun doesn't shine pedro
Just can't deal with reality,can you,Buckwheat?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
#28. To: sneakypete (#27)
Just can't deal with reality,can you,Buckwheat?
for your reality, I'd have to over douse on kissing wetback ass like you do, pepe
#29. To: war (#25)
I don't believe that they are in to Pink Flamingos and Rainbow twirlies in Mexico.
well, they go pretty good with my gnomes and lawn jockeys
#30. To: lucysmom (#26)
You can buy those cheap ass palm trees for 50 bucks at home depot.
weeds go high too
#31. To: calcon (#29)
Touche'....
#32. To: calcon (#28)
for your reality, I'd have to over douse on kissing wetback ass like you do, pepe
What color is the sky on your home planet,white?
It must be,because it seems like can't even recognize the FACT that some people with names like Pepe are as American as you are legally,and more American morally.
Here is an example of somebody you would look down on and call a "wetback" because his last name was Benavidez. Read it and tell me how YOU compare to him.
www.psywarrior.com/benavidez.html
I wonder how you would compare to the SFC Leroy Wright, team leader and friend he went in to rescue? He was black,and I'm guessing you would also consider him less of an American than you even though he gave his life by jumping on a grenade to save his white teammates who were already wounded and had dangled outside a helicopter by a rope in Cambodia just a few days before to save Roy and another American while under fire from the North Vietnamese Army.
www.valorremembered.org/RPB_WrightIntro.htm
I knew both of these men personally,and I have serious doubts you are even one percent of the man either was.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
#33. To: sneakypete (#32)
I wonder how you would compare to the SFC Leroy Wright, team leader and friend he went in to rescue? He was black,and I'm guessing you would also consider him less of an American than you even though he gave his life by jumping on a grenade to save his white teammates who were already wounded and had dangled outside a helicopter by a rope in Cambodia just a few days before to save Roy and another American while under fire from the North Vietnamese Army.
you are without a doubt the most full of shit person on the internet, you bad mouth american workers and spout off about how wonderful the illegal mexicans are. I call you on it and all you got left is calling me racist.
Feel free to call me gay, that's all you've got left.
this is my last response to you pepe, so bad mouth me all you want, you opinion carries means less to me then that taco bell fart i just cut.
BTW i did two tours in nam, so your horseshit does not impress me
#34. To: calcon (#33)
you are without a doubt the most full of shit person on the internet, you bad mouth american workers and spout off about how wonderful the illegal mexicans are. I call you on it and all you got left is calling me racist.
I only wish you were close enough I could slap all the shit out of your head. You are a fucking oxygen thief.
BTW i did two tours in nam, so your horseshit does not impress me
"nam"???? The only people I have even heard call it "nam" or "the nam" were posers and/or actors in films. You are obviously a poser to even try to compare "two tours in VN" to the actions of Roy Benavidez or Leroy Wright and what they did on just two occasions.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
#35. To: sneakypete (#34)
you are without a doubt the most full of shit person on the internet, you bad mouth american workers and spout off about how wonderful the illegal mexicans are. I call you on it and all you got left is calling me racist.I only wish you were close enough I could slap all the shit out of your head. You are a fucking oxygen thief.
BTW i did two tours in nam, so your horseshit does not impress me
"nam"???? The only people I have even heard call it "nam" or "the nam" were posers and/or actors in films. You are obviously a poser to even try to compare "two tours in VN" to the actions of Roy Benavidez or Leroy Wright and what they did on just two occasions.
oh please pepe, i love the way you use other's heroics to try make yourself seem important.
i'm sure all your amigos at home depot think you're a real tough guy
#36. To: calcon (#35)
oh please pepe, i love the way you use other's heroics to try make yourself seem important.
Wrong. I use other people's heroics to prove what a piece of shit you are in comparison to some of the people you seem to think are not as worthy as you of the title "American".
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
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