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Title: Reliable forecast under the weather [Ode to Global Warming Idiots]
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URL Source: http://news.bostonherald.com/news/o ... 036&srvc=home&position=emailed
Published: Feb 3, 2011
Author: Michael Graham
Post Date: 2011-02-03 14:50:25 by Capitalist Eric
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Views: 33788
Comments: 39
Meet the global weirdos. They’re the ones telling you that all the snow outside is proof that it’s getting warmer. Only, they don’t call it “warming” anymore.
No, that was back in the “Earth has a fever” days. Back when Al Gore was predicting that the ice caps were melting, the polar bears were drowning and Manhattan would sink beneath 20 feet of water “in the near future.”
But then something happened. Since 1998, temperatures have been relatively flat. We’ve got more polar bears than ever, and Manhattan is buried under snow. For a planet-roasting crisis that threatened the human race with extinction, there doesn’t seem to be much actual warming.
So then the mantra became “climate change.” The liberals formerly known as “warmists” began predicting that we would experience fundamental changes in our weather. Scientists at the University of East Anglia — the Harvard of climate change — said snow would be “a very rare and exciting event.” Children wouldn’t know what it was.
As for summers, in the wake of Katrina “change-ist” groups like realclimate.org predicted “global warming will make hurricanes even worse in the future.”
What happened? Nothing. Europe has had three winters in a row of snow and cold temperatures. In the Atlantic, “there has been a dramatic decrease in the number of hurricanes in the last five years,” according to meteorologist Art Horn. “The total energy in all hurricanes around the world has plunged since 1993. The opposite of what was predicted.”
So the new fall back is “global weirding.” The site thedailygreen.com has a “Weird Weather Watch” page. The uber-liberal Huffington Post ran a story in August headlined “Global Weirding”: Extreme Climate Events Dominate The Summer.”
“The extreme climate events all across the globe must say something about whether climate change is already upon us,” the HuffPo insisted. “Extreme is the new normal.”
They quote a professor of “environmental studies and politics” from Oberlin College who says, “More hottest hots, driest dries, wettest wets, windiest wind conditions. So it’s all part of a pattern.”
Gore is on board, too. He’s now merely claiming rising temperatures will “create all sorts of havoc, ranging from hotter dry spells to colder winters.”
Not “warming,” but “weirding.” Not “heating,” but “havoc.” Which is how global warming can cause more snow, less snow, no snow, avalanches, heat waves, cold snaps, wetter wets, drier dries, gingivitis, delirium tremens and irritable bowel syndrome . . . all at the same time!
Global warming — is there anything it can’t do?
Well, the one thing it apparently doesn’t do is help predict the weather. The UK’s Met Office stopped giving seasonal forecasts last year after mis-predicting warmer winters three years in a row. Meteorologists without a warmist agenda like Piers Corbyn and AccuWeather’s Joe Bastardi, on the other hand, continue to pay the bills by making predictions directly contrary to the “weirdos.” Oddly, they don’t have degrees in politics.
For a theory to be scientific, it must be fallible — capable of being proven false. If every weather condition can be used to “prove” global warming simply by being declared “weird,” then it’s not science. It’s a joke.
Which is exactly what the environmental movement has become.
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Since 1998, temperatures have been relatively flat.
maybe according to Fox News? the data says something different.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
#2. To: Capitalist Eric (#0)
Once a year for the past 5-6 years, we get an article that states this:
"Only, they don’t call it “warming” anymore...the mantra became “climate change.”
This is the fallback position for the deniers when predicted climate anamolies occur.
Thier belief that they can state the above and then invokje the name "Al Gore" for the expected laugh underscores how out of touch with reality they are.
Earth In THe Balance from near start to finish discusses the AFFECT of warming on CLIMATE in almost every region of the earth. How the increases would affect polar ice, growing seasons, rain and snowfall amounts, severity of storms and on and on.
The deniers want us to believe that Gore's book and documentary have only two words in them: GLOBAL WARMING. That is an outright lie.
#3. To: go65 (#1) (Edited)
Your graph doesn't refute the idea that temperatures haven't increased since 1998
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#4. To: Capitalist Eric (#0)
Since 1998, temperatures have been relatively flat
yep
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#5. To: war (#2)
"Only, they don’t call it “warming” anymore...the mantra became “climate change.”
The mantra now is "climate disruption"
"Climate change" is soooo 2009.
Get with the program.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#6. To: no gnu taxes (#3)
Your graph doesn't the idea that temperatures haven't increased since 1998
Huh?
Is that a sentence in search of verb?
#7. To: no gnu taxes (#5)
I didn't write the article. Take it up with Erica.
#8. To: war (#6)
That final big spike is 1998 -- on the right side of the graph. There have been some fluctuations since then, but you can't show there has been any genral increase in temperatures since then. If anything, the trend has been slightly down.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#9. To: no gnu taxes (#8)
That final big spike is 1998 -- on the right side of the graph.
You had a one year deviation from the standard. BFD. The right side of the graph is still going up.
#10. To: war (#9)
You had a one year deviation from the standard. BFD
Actually there were 3. The spike was followed by an almost equally as large decrease, and then another large increase, followed by about a decade of virtually stable temperatures with a very slight trend downwards.
Overall, the trend is most definitely lower, unless you want to look at it like a climate scientist and find some arbitrary low and extend to an arbitrary high point and say, "see, the trend is up."
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#11. To: no gnu taxes (#10)
Do you want to lose the same argument twice? First to go and now to me?
Very well...
Where is the temp when the chart begins and where it ends? Higher or lower? what is the overall trend in the chart? Higher or lower?
#12. To: war (#11)
Easier to see with this graph, but it's essentially the same information.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#13. To: no gnu taxes (#12)
Source of that graph please? And please answer my questions.
Thanks.
#14. To: war (#7)
I didn't write the article. Take it up with Erica.
"There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." -- go65, LF's answer to Ben Bernanke --
We always like cool X-rays, right?
Here's one of our own American Socialist,
"godwinson," resident socialist goober.
#15. To: Capitalist Eric (#14)
Your Cluepon has obviously expired.
#16. To: war (#2) (Edited)
The deniers want us to believe that Gore's book and documentary have only two words in them: GLOBAL WARMING. That is an outright lie.
Damn.... I thought you left, and I would have more room on the bozo list.
It would seem not.
Bye, you friggin' RETARD.
"There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." -- go65, LF's answer to Ben Bernanke --
We always like cool X-rays, right?
Here's one of our own American Socialist,
"godwinson," resident socialist goober.
#17. To: go65 (#1)
the data says something different.
You mean the data from your heros in the climate-gate scandal?
Give it UP, dummy.
"There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." -- go65, LF's answer to Ben Bernanke --
We always like cool X-rays, right?
Here's one of our own American Socialist,
"godwinson," resident socialist goober.
#18. To: war (#13)
Where is the temp when the chart begins and where it ends? Higher or lower?
1998 is at the top of the peak, so it's definitely lower. And the chart ends in the summer of 2010, so it's even lower now.
What is the overall trend in the chart? Higher or lower?
lower. To be fair, look the high in about 2001 after the decrease and second increase, and the high in 2010 and there is a very slight trend downwards.
I absolutely don't know what you are looking to suggest there is any kind of trend upward since 1998.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#19. To: Capitalist Eric (#16)
#20. To: no gnu taxes (#18)
The question Paddy was:
Where is the temp when the chart begins and where it ends? Higher or lower?
lower.
Get your Braille-o-meter re-calibrated.
#21. To: no gnu taxes (#18)
I absolutely don't know what you are looking to suggest there is any kind of trend upward since 1998.
A picture of war, and why he thinks it's getting "warmer."
"There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." -- go65, LF's answer to Ben Bernanke --
We always like cool X-rays, right?
Here's one of our own American Socialist,
"godwinson," resident socialist goober.
#22. To: war (#20)
Answered
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#23. To: no gnu taxes (#22)
Answered
In which reply?
#24. To: war (#23)
18
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#25. To: no gnu taxes (#3)
Your graph doesn't refute the idea that temperatures haven't increased since 1998
The graph shows rising global average temperatures after 1998.
If you are making the stupid argument that "since 1998 was the hottest year ever, temperatures haven't risen since then" then it's a bit like saying that human beings aren't getting taller since the tallest person who ever lived was born in 1918. Meanwhile, few would dispute the data showing average height is increasing.
What you are demonstrating here is again a fundamental lack of knowledge.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
#26. To: war (#13)
Source of that graph please? And please answer my questions.
No Gnu still hasn't explained how satellite, ocean and land sensors are still in alignment, and he cherry picks select years to make his point while ignoring the larger trends.
Amateurishness on display.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
#27. To: no gnu taxes, war (#18)
1998 is at the top of the peak, so it's definitely lower. And the chart ends in the summer of 2010, so it's even lower now.
Humans aren't getting taller since the tallest person who ever lived was born in 1918, therefore human height hasn't increased since then.
Right?
And thus this study showing that average human height has gone up 10CM in the last 100 years is obviously BS and part of the massive conspiracy to promote the false template of taller humans in an effort to destroy our economy.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1071721/
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
#28. To: go65 (#26)
Amateurishness on display.
"There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." -- go65, LF's answer to Ben Bernanke --
We always like cool X-rays, right?
Here's one of our own American Socialist,
"godwinson," resident socialist goober.
#29. To: no gnu taxes (#24)
18
The question Paddy was:
Where is the temp when the chart begins which is ~1900 not 1998 and where it ends? Higher or lower?
#30. To: war (#29)
Where is the temp when the chart begins which is ~1900 not 1998 and where it ends? Higher or lower?
Who cares? the question was what has been happening since 1998?
As for the rest of the century:
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#31. To: go65 (#25)
The graph shows rising global average temperatures after 1998.
No it doesn't.
There were some swings between 1998 and 2001, but compare 2001 to 2010.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#32. To: no gnu taxes (#31) (Edited)
There were some swings between 1998 and 2001, but compare 2001 to 2010.
a drop-off from 98 to 99, then a gradual rise. I don't see your point. Draw a line from 2000-2010.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
#33. To: go65 (#32)
From the peak there was a drop, then a rise. Draw a line from that rise to the 2010 peak. A slight decrease. And all below the 1998 peak.
And this winters drop will be much more pronounced.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#34. To: no gnu taxes (#33) (Edited)
From the peak there was a drop, then a rise. Draw a line from that rise to the 2010 peak. A slight decrease. And all below the 1998 peak.
Yes, if you cherry pick the data you can ignore the overall warming trend over the last 30 years or so. But, if you look at something like a 5 year running mean, you get this:
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/
Which means you have to resort to "it's all a conspiracy" to make your point.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
#35. To: go65 (#34)
The same discredited chart again?
You are the only person claiming conspiracy.
To me, it's obvious it's a group of people preserving their own self interests.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
#36. To: Capitalist Eric (#0)
Don't worry. Nothing will be done.
We have to drop now to 350.
A few more Egypts should do it. ;}
#37. To: no gnu taxes (#35)
The same discredited chart again?
"It's all a conspiracy" (never mind that the trends are consistent among satellite, surface, and sea temperature sensors, you'll just keep ignoring that part).
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
#38. To: mcgowanjm (#36)
A few more Egypts should do it. ;}
They're going on now...Yemen, Lebanon, etc.
#39. To: Fred Mertz (#38)
A few more Egypts should do it. ;}They're going on now...Yemen, Lebanon, etc.
I'm talking about Pakistan, Jordan, Algeria. ;}
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