[Home] [Headlines] [Latest Articles] [Latest Comments] [Post] [Mail] [Sign-in] [Setup] [Help] [Register]
|
Status: Not Logged In; Sign In
Opinions/Editorials Title: Right Wing, Tea Party Trying To Mitigate Damage From AZ Shooting When Jared Lee Loughner opened fire on a group of Representative Gabrielle Giffords’ constituents, it was not on the orders of anyone specific, but it was after more than two years of demonization coming from within the Right that had been largely ignored and rarely denounced from within the Conservatives of the United States. Right now, there is a push to mitigate the damage done to the Conservatives by Loughner’s actions, but it is not likely to succeed. The extreme and violent rhetoric has been seen to have come from the Right, and the American public are not going to be dissuaded from saying that enough is enough. That it took the deaths of six- including a nine year old girl- to bring this nation to this point is horrific. Now the question is, was this act by Loughner a Kent State or a Fort Sumpter? There are those on the Right who are trying to push back. They are trying to link Jared Lee Loughner to the Left using often flimsy evidence and Glenn Beck talking points. Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center feels that it may be difficult to directly link Loughner to the Right, but his rhetoric is that of the Right.
Yesterday, LGR looked at how Loughner’s beliefs matched up with those of Ron Paul on the Gold Standard, and various people on the Right with regards to the PC Thought Police. I forgot one detail- the destruction of the Contitution. For as much as the Tea Party and the Right wants to wrap themselves up in the Constitution, they do a good job of advocating the repeal of much of it. For instance, this from Talking Points Memo regarding the repeal of the 17th Amendment:
How about the attempt to repeal all or part of the 14th Amendment? Here is an interview between TPM and John McCain:
While many who advocate for these ideas know that it is impossible to really repeal those, and it would be a major mess to do so, there is always that one mind who thinks that if it does not happen, then they government is not listening, and violence is called for. Potok of the SPLC was quoted by TPM as having said:
The rhetoric has been to the extreme, and it has caused so many problems. While there has been some of this on the Left, often that has been condemned and squashed within hours or a day of it having been said. LGR played its part in putting a lid on the extreme rhetoric and calls for violence within the LGBT Community. Those on the Right did not give the order, but they played a part in creating a situation where this happened. The reason why it was hard- impossible in fact- for the Right to blame Al Gore for the shooting at the Discovery Channel’s headquarters is because he never used militaristic rhetoric to defend the need for global climate change legislation the way that the Right have used it to defend their beliefs in the destruction of the Constitution, the return of the gold standard, and the abolition of the ‘PC Thought Police’. There is a perception now that those who are violent on the Right have the tacit blessing of their side while those who are violent on the Left do not. If the Right wants to make amends now, the best thing is to change the rhetoric, tone it down, and discuss these issues like a rational person.Lez Get Real Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade* Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 100. Right Wing, Tea Party Trying To Mitigate Damage From AZ Shooting How come? The shooter was a liberal Democrat Like you, you know.
#3. To: Rudgear (#1) How come? The shooter was a liberal Democrat Like you, you know. Wrong again, pinhead. Are you trying to set a new record for being totally wrong the most times in 24 hours? If so, you can quit because you've already done it. "Jared Lee Loughner was a registered independent, didn't vote in 2010 election By Chris Cillizza Suspected Tucson gunman Jared Lee Loughner registered as an independent voter in Arizona in the fall of 2006, according to the Pima County Registrar of Voters. Loughner registered to vote on Sept. 29, 2006, identifying himself as an independent. Records show he voted in the 2006 and 2008 elections but is current listed as "inactive" on the state's voter roles -- meaning that he did not vote in November. The political affiliations of Loughner, who is being charged by state and federal authorities with the shooting of Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D) as well as 19 other victims outside a Tucson grocery store on Saturday, have become the subject of a white-hot partisan debate in recent days. In the immediate aftermath of the shooting, liberals sought to paint Loughner as an anti-government, tea party conservative. Conservatives retorted that Loughner lacked anything close to a coherent political philosophy -- a case strengthened by subsequent glimpses into his personal life that suggests someone struggling with mental illness. Loughner's decision to affiliate as an independent rather than a Republican or Democrat would seem to affirm the sense that while he targeted Giffords in the attack, it was not a decision born of a set of deeply held political beliefs that fit neatly into either party." http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/house/jared-lee-loughner-was-a-regis.html
#36. To: Skip Intro (#3) "Jared Lee Loughner was a registered independent, didn't vote in 2010 election By Chris Cillizza Nice try. Who did he vote for in 2008,and why was he mad at the Congresswoman?
#38. To: sneakypete (#36) Nice try. Who did he vote for in 2008,and why was he mad at the Congresswoman? Unless he tells us, we're unlikely to know - secret ballot and all. He was mad at the government, the Congresswoman represented government to him.
#58. To: lucysmom (#38) Unless he tells us, we're unlikely to know - secret ballot and all. LOL! It's easy to see why you are a Dim. He was mad at the government, the Congresswoman represented government to him. He was mad at her for not being Dim enough.
#60. To: sneakypete (#58) He was mad at her for not being Dim enough. Specifically, what do you base that on?
#64. To: lucysmom (#60) He was mad at her for not being Dim enough. His own words.
#65. To: sneakypete (#64) His own words. Which words? Grammar? Dreaming? Do those words speak to you in some kind of code?
#66. To: lucysmom (#65) Which words? Grammar? Dreaming? Do those words speak to you in some kind of code? How freaking stupid ARE you,anyway? YOU are the one using code,and you use some sort of special Dim Code to turn plain words into something impossible to understand. Try "She didn't support Pelosi for Speaker,and she is dead to me." The typical 3rd grader can understand those words.
#67. To: sneakypete (#66) Try "She didn't support Pelosi for Speaker,and she is dead to me." No results found for "She didn't support Pelosi for Speaker,and she is dead to me."
Why don't you just provide a link to whatever it is your talking about.
#69. To: lucysmom (#67) Why don't you just provide a link to whatever it is your talking about. Here is a link to the deleted Daily Kos page. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/6/933828/-My-CongressWOMAN-voted-against-Nancy-Pelosi!-And-is-now-DEAD-to-me! Here is a link to his face book page. Note the people he admires. I suspect they are the same people you admire. http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8946/fb001.jpg
#70. To: sneakypete (#69) Here is a link to the deleted Daily Kos page. Are you claiming Jerad is Blue Boy? It was Blue Boy who wrote "My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!", not Jerad. by BoyBlue EDIT NOTE: I initially deleted this diary out of sensitivity to the victims of Saturday's Tucson shooting, including my Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords, who is now courageously fighting for her life at UMC. I undeleted because this has been twisted and distorted by not only the right wing blogs, but also the mainstream media as an example of a vitriolic statement from the progressives that is somehow the equal of what Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle, Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, Boortz, and other far-right stokers of vitriol, anger, and hatred have said and written. Which I believe can and does influence people, especially the already unstable to carry out acts of violence...perhaps even the exact shooting in Tucson on Saturday. And didn't we already talk about the phrase "dead to me" meaning "disowned", not literal death? http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8946/fb001.jpg I think that's one of them fake facebook pages this guy writes about http://habledash.com/index.php?o...=47:latest-news&Itemid=65
#73. To: lucysmom (#70) And didn't we already talk about the phrase "dead to me" meaning "disowned", not literal death? Yet "targeted for defeat" means murder them?
#74. To: sneakypete (#73) Yet "targeted for defeat" means murder them? When paired with an image of a gun sight (is that what Sarah is calling it today?) yes.
#78. To: lucysmom (#74) When paired with an image of a gun sight Oh, good grief. They are map markers that even Bob Beckel says he uses. Yet you have no problem with a Daily Kos poster calling her "dead" 2 days before she is shot.
#91. To: no gnu taxes (#78) Oh, good grief. They are map markers that even Bob Beckel says he uses. Is Bob Beckel a cartographer? If the symbols are map markers you should be able to tell me exactly what they symbolize. Yet you have no problem with a Daily Kos poster calling her "dead" 2 days before she is shot.
Do you mean the "dead to me" quote? We've been through that several times.
#98. To: lucysmom (#91) If the symbols are map markers you should be able to tell me exactly what they symbolize. How about locations of Congressional districts? Only the terminally stupid would think they were representing assasinations. Do you mean the "dead to me" quote? We've been through that several times. We? You got a rat in your pocket? That's pretty violent sounding language when there are so many nutjobs out there. Shouldn't you moonbats be toning down your rhetoric?
#100. To: no gnu taxes (#98) How about locations of Congressional districts? Only the terminally stupid would think they were representing assasinations. So you're telling me that they are standard symbols for congressional districts? That's pretty violent sounding language when there are so many nutjobs out there. Shouldn't you moonbats be toning down your rhetoric?
I have come around to believing you are right. Using the phrase "dead to me" assumes a certain level of cultural literacy. It is a mistake to overestimate the intelligence of one's audience.
Replies to Comment # 100. So you're telling me that they are standard symbols for congressional districts? Why Should they be? Using the phrase "dead to me" assumes a certain level of cultural literacy. Totally undermined by the same people who think that every single "crossmark" symbol is a call for assasination. If you think that there are people out there who think a crossmark symbol is a code for violence, surely you must think there are people out there who would think a phrase like dead to me is a call for violence. But you libtards ARE NEVER honest.
End Trace Mode for Comment # 100. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest |
|
[Home] [Headlines] [Latest Articles] [Latest Comments] [Post] [Mail] [Sign-in] [Setup] [Help] [Register]
|