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Title: LTC Lakin’s Court-Martial Nears
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Published: Dec 6, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-12-06 13:45:24 by Skip Intro
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LTC Terrence Lakin’s court-martial opens next week on December 14 at Fort Meade, Maryland. I saw a photo online recently of Lakin with his beautiful family, which I won’t post here for the sake of their privacy. But I felt very sad looking at it. Lakin’s irresponsible actions gambled with their future security and family reputation. I wonder if the GOP ops behind this miserable fiasco, like Margaret Hemenway and Paul Rolf Jensen, or World Net Daily, for that matter, ever give a thought to what they have done to these kids. All the Birthers out there, every single one, who pushed this man farther and farther to self-immolation should be ashamed, including, more recently, his own brother. It would be one thing if LTC Lakin had continued with the Birther defense. Lakin must have realized the damage he was doing to his family and to the service and himself, or he wouldn’t have fired the American Patriot Foundation and hired a non-Birther lawyer, one of the best in the military law business, to represent his interests over the Birther movement’s interests. It’s a shame the Birther movement continues to exploit Lakin in defiance of his legal strategy. No sympathy here for LTC Lakin–he deserves what he gets–but for his children. And for the armed forces, who have better things to worry about than half-assed, unpatriotic conspiracy movements. Col. Dwight Sullivan of CAAFlog described on The Fogbow how the military sentencing process works in a plea bargain: In the military, the convening authority (the commanding general or other high ranking official who decided to prosecute the case) actually enters into a contract with the defendant (called an accused in military justice parlance). The convening authority agrees that if the accused pleads guilty and does whatever else he or she agrees to do, then the convening authority will reduce the accused’s sentence to an agree-upon limit. The case then goes to court-martial, where the accused pleads guilty and goes through a “Care inquiry,” during which the accused is required to convince the military judge that he or she is actually guilty. This is a lengthy process during which the accused basically has to explain in his or her own words why his or her conduct satisfied every element of the offenses to which he or she has pled guilty. Once the military judge finds the accused guilty in accordance with the pleas, the case then moves immediately into a sentencing hearing. There are no presentence reports — sentencing is an adversarial evidentiary process, much like a contested trial. At the end of the sentencing case, the sentencer (it could be the military judge alone or a panel of service members) deliberates and then announces a sentence. (For members, it generally takes a 2/3 vote for the sentence, though there are some exceptions to that rule.) Then the accused gets the lighter of the sentence adjudged or the sentence as agreed to with the convening authority. So the defense can, as we say, “beat the deal” by getting the sentencer to adjudge a more lenient sentence than that in the contract (called a PTA for pre-trial agreement) between the convening authority and the accused. During the defense’s sentencing case, the accused can elect to either testify under oath or make an unsworn statement to the court-martial. If the accused testifies under oath, he can be (and almost invariably will be) cross-examined by the prosecutor. If the accused makes an unsworn statement, he isn’t subject to cross-examination, though the prosecution in its rebuttal case is allowed to rebut any statements of fact made during the unsworn statement, but not opinions. Military case law construing the right to make an unsworn statement holds that the accused can say just about anything he wants. In practice, because the case law is so expansive, a military judge almost never precludes the accused from saying something because she knows that if she does, there’s a pretty good chance she’ll get reversed on appeal. So, if LTC Lakin so chooses, there could indeed be an “open mike afternoon” at his court-martial during which he would have the option of delivering a birther manifesto. He would almost certainly be allowed to do so if he wants. (Of course, the sentencing authority — be it Judge Lind or a panel of Army colonels — will then be free to consider that as a matter in aggravation when determining the appropriate sentence.) Col. Sullivan intends to attend the trial, so we can look forward to his reports on CAAFlog. A very interesting interview he had recently on Reality Check is well worth listening to. If he does attend the court-martial, Reality Check will be lucky again to have him as a guest to discuss it. Don’t miss the show next week.
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#1. To: Skip Intro, *Hypocrisy and Hypocrites* (#0)
OR......,Barry Soetoro could have saved this man's children by releasing his birth certificate.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
He did that. Birthers are too stupid to have figured that out.
Hussein Soetoro holds himself in higher regard than anyone or anything. Everyone and everything else can go to hell for all he cares. Liberals are too stupid to have figured that out.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Ok,Buckwheat,so show it to us? Not a certificate of birth,a actual birth certificate. Assuming of course that you aren't so stupid and blinded by your masters magnificence you think they are the same thing.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Please, play this game with someone who gives a shit. It doesn't matter what OBama's status is. Lakin disobeyed a lawful order from his direct superior. End of case. He's going down hard because he allowed himself to be made a fool of by the birthers.
LOL!! Spare us your disgustingly misdirected false concern for the innocent. The really sad thing here is that a man of integrity is falsely labeled irresponsible for challenging the criminal behavior of a revolting scum bag political puppet and the human slime that owns that puppet.
LOL!! No POS criminal political puppet is Lakin's superior. That is what he is telling you.
Damn, Skivvy. You're getting your ass kicked tonight. But then, all it takes is the truth and you're nothing but a rubber chicken.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
That's something you'll never have to deal with..eh cupcake? What ever his fate is, you'll never have to worry it will happen to you, because you don't have the guts it takes to stand up to your superiors, even if you knew they were wrong, you'd kiss their boots and pray they didn't kick you in the face and make you cry. SPIT! Filthy damn spineless worm.....
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Jo Dee Messina
Please spare those of us who are sane your HorseHillary about lawful orders. Acting President Soetoro can not give lawful orders because he is not a lawful president. Larkin offered him the chance to prove he is legally qualified to hold that office,and he failed the challenge.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
He didn't give the orders. Try this defense the next time a cop pulls you over for a speeding ticket. Explain to him that the law isn't valid because the president is a fraud. Better yet, don't pay your taxes for the same reason. Enjoy your fine.
Mad Dog, is that you? You birthers are lunatics you understand, don't you? Let's have the entire military refuse to follow orders until each and every single one of them is shown whatever evidence they require that the current president is legit. We may as well disband it now. At least we'll save a shitload of money.
It kills me to say this...but LtC Latkin is painfully wrong here, and is going to pay a dreadful price, as will his family. He disobeyed a lawful order, folks. Period. And you all know I have no use for our POTUS politically. I think he's a disaster that only Jimmy Carter can match. If he felt this way, he should have resigned his commission. That he didn't was a huge error in judgement on his part. He will lose. And he will be made an example of. The 'birthers' and the 'truthers' are two sides of the same fucked up coin in short. JMHO.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I'm no Birther. and this man is a fool, but he's a brave fool who will hopefully start a trend. the U.S. government is in violation of all its own laws, not to mention the Constitution and therefore, no military officer can accept orders from it, legally.
Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!
It's obvious you know as little about the military as you do everything else. A President is also the commander in chief,and he is the man that gives the orders to the military. Try this defense the next time a cop pulls you over for a speeding ticket. Explain to him that the law isn't valid because the president is a fraud. Better yet, don't pay your taxes for the same reason. You are so bleeping ignorant you don't even understand the difference between the local police and the Defense Department. Which I guess isn't really surprising coming from someone that wants government in charge of the people. BTW,are you by any chance related to Yukon? Maybe his slow little brother?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
He didn't directly give the orders. You might try reading the UCMJ on this. It's quite clear. I'm done with this. Lakin's going down, even his lawyer says so. He was an idiot to allow the birthers to frame his defense. Now he's toast. Deal with it. No one in the military gets to pick and choose what orders they'll choose to follow without facing the consequences. I'm amazed how many birthers would choose for it to be otherwise.
He disobeyed a lawful order, folks. Period. And you all know I have no use for our POTUS politically. I think he's a disaster that only Jimmy Carter can match. If he felt this way, he should have resigned his commission. That he didn't was a huge error in judgement on his part. He will lose. And he will be made an example of. I believe everything you say will come to pass, but my question is, why would a person like him, with everything going for him throw it all away just to suffer, and his family suffer as well?
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Jo Dee Messina
I have no insight on this one, murron. I don't get it either. He should have resigned if he felt that strongly about it, at least then he could have found work in the private sector, maybe with a defense contractor.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
You're right. He gave the orders to the people that gave the orders.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
I don't get it either. He did it because it was the right thing to do,and he took a oath to protect and defend the Constitution. The Constitution sets certain standards that any president MUST meet in order to be the CiC and give orders to the military. It is the DUTY of career officers to insure those standards are met in order to avoid following illegal orders. Military people are always putting not only their careers but their actual lives at risk in order to do the right thing. The only thing surprising to me is that more haven't done it.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
sneaky, For that to be 'valid' both as a debate point, or a defense in his coming court martial, he would have to have proof positive POTUS is not an American Citizen. He simply doesn't.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
It is? The U.S. army is the biggest collection of cowards in the history of armed forces.
Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!
And he can't do that because the man that is ultimately responsible for his court-martial refuses to provide proof that the Colonel is wrong. ALL it would take to settle this whole matter is for the acting president to release his actual birth certificate.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Really? Have you explained that to any of them face to face,Ahab?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Indeed. And they agreed with me.
Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!
C'mon tell us again how you he-roically kicked some panamainian ass. how one dingbat nearly got you with a sharpened mango.
Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!
LOL... still chasing your tail on this one, David Duke. So not only are you a Storm Front trooper, but you're a proud member of the Birther Brigade! You must be so proud!
didn't you vote for john kerry?
Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!
lol. our retired imperial welfare-vets are annoyed that someone doesn't fall to the ground and worship them for their 'service' oppressing sovereign peoples overseas.
Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!
Nope, I voted third party in 2004. How about you? Furthermore, how is that relevant?
checking your credibility levels. so far so good. I don't vote.
Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!
I didn't kick anyone's ass down there, and I saw no mango trees. I've seen them in Thailand and the Islands of Guam and Saipan, but not in Central America. The 'Dignity Battalions' didn't put up much of a fightas they were intimidated by the large size and scopeof the invasion force. And it was that big to do precisely that. I did see large groups of howler monkeys though that were all smart enough to tutor the neutered as mud dumb as ewe though.
Yeah,I'll bet.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Still smarting over me proving the first slave holder in the English-speaking New World was a black man,ain't ya? Your whole belief system must have been shaken by that one,Buckwheat.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Burden of proof is with the Colonel, sneaky.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Burden of proof is with the Colonel, sneaky. Lakin is responsible for his court-martial. He is the person who failed to comply with a lawful order. Obama's place of birth is irrelevant.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
He did not chose his battles wisely. Bottome line. Good post my dear. Let's hope he grows to realize this and can heal from the cancer of his hatred that is costing him so dearly.
Really? He now has to prove he is innocent? This is America. I thought the burden of proof was on the prosecution,and they were charged with proving guilt. If THEY were to produce the actual birth certificate,they would prove their case beyond all doubt. If they won't/can't do this,they have no case.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Lakin is responsible for his court-martial. BullBarack! He is the person who failed to comply with a lawful order. PROVE it was a lawful order,dummy. You can't,because the only way to prove this is to produce Barry Soetoro's actual birth certificate,and he is unwilling to do this. Since he IS the prosecution (they work for him) his refusal to produce any proof that the Colonel is guilty as charged SHOULD lead to the case being dismissed. It is within his power to produce the proof IF he can,and he won't. Now,I know you lefties get wood at the thought of a all-powerful government that makes our decisions for us,but do you REALLY want to get a government court the ability to find someone guilty without having to produce any evidence of his guilt? Obama's place of birth is irrelevant. Proving once again why you are a Dim. You could no more be anything else than a fish could learn how to fly or a mule could learn how to tap dance.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
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#2. To: sneakypete (#1)
OR......,Barry Soetoro could have saved this man's children by releasing his birth certificate.
#3. To: Skip Intro (#2)
#4. To: Skip Intro (#2)
He did that. Birthers are too stupid to have figured that out.
#5. To: sneakypete (#4)
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#6. To: Skip Intro (#0)
But I felt very sad looking at it. Lakin’s irresponsible actions gambled with their future security and family reputation.
#7. To: Skip Intro (#5)
Lakin disobeyed a lawful order from his direct superior.
#8. To: Skip Intro (#5)
#9. To: Skip Intro (#5)
"Lakin disobeyed a lawful order from his direct superior".
#10. To: Skip Intro (#5)
Please, play this game with someone who gives a shit. It doesn't matter what OBama's status is. Lakin disobeyed a lawful order from his direct superior. End of case.
#11. To: sneakypete (#10)
Acting President Soetoro can not give lawful orders because he is not a lawful president.
#12. To: Murron (#9)
SPIT!
#13. To: all (#0)
#14. To: Skip Intro (#0)
#15. To: Skip Intro (#11)
He didn't give the orders.
#16. To: sneakypete (#15)
A President is also the commander in chief,and he is the man that gives the orders to the military.
#17. To: Badeye (#13)
It kills me to say this...but LtC Latkin is painfully wrong here, and is going to pay a dreadful price, as will his family.
#18. To: Murron (#17)
I believe everything you say will come to pass, but my question is, why would a person like him, with everything going for him throw it all away just to suffer, and his family suffer as well?
#19. To: Skip Intro (#16)
He didn't directly give the orders.
#20. To: Badeye, Murron (#18)
I have no insight on this one, murron.
#21. To: sneakypete (#20)
#22. To: sneakypete (#20)
The only thing surprising to me is that more haven't done it.
#23. To: continental op (#22)
#24. To: Badeye (#21)
For that to be 'valid' both as a debate point, or a defense in his coming court martial, he would have to have proof positive POTUS is not an American Citizen.
#25. To: continental op (#22)
The U.S. army is the biggest collection of cowards in the history of armed forces.
#26. To: sneakypete (#25)
#27. To: Ferret Mike (#23)
#28. To: sneakypete (#24)
And he can't do that because the man that is ultimately responsible for his court-martial refuses to provide proof that the Colonel is wrong. ALL it would take to settle this whole matter is for the acting president to release his actual birth certificate.
#29. To: meguro (#28)
#30. To: All (#27)
#31. To: continental op (#29)
didn't you vote for john kerry?
#32. To: meguro (#31)
(Edited)
#33. To: continental op (#27)
#34. To: continental op (#26)
Indeed. And they agreed with me.
#35. To: meguro (#28)
LOL... still chasing your tail on this one, David Duke. So not only are you a Storm Front trooper, but you're a proud member of the Birther Brigade!
#36. To: sneakypete (#24)
And he can't do that because the man that is ultimately responsible for his court-martial refuses to provide proof that the Colonel is wrong
#37. To: Badeye, sneakypete (#36)
And he can't do that because the man that is ultimately responsible for his court-martial refuses to provide proof that the Colonel is wrong
#38. To: lucysmom (#37)
"Lakin is responsible for his court-martial."
#39. To: Badeye (#36)
Burden of proof is with the Colonel, sneaky.
#40. To: lucysmom (#37)
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