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Source: [None] URL Source: http://libertysflame.org Published: Nov 12, 2010 Author: Me Post Date: 2010-11-12 19:40:56 by Skip Intro Keywords: None Views: 73880 Comments: 74 There has been talk on other sites (hint: Goldi-Lox and LP) about the desirability of Marco Rubio running for president. Since these sites are also by and large "birther" sites, I want to know if Rubio is considered a "natural born citizen" and if so, why. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 8. #1. To: Skip Intro (#0) (Edited) If he was born in the US, and his parents had become US citizens and renounced allegiance to Cuba by the time of his birth, he's natural born. He needs to show his parents citizenship papers, and his long form birth certificate. All that's needed to prove hObama ineligible is a long form birth certificate from ANYWHERE showing that his father is Barack Obama. We already know that he was a British subject, that never became a US citizen. Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-12   19:59:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: hondo68 (#1) If he was born in the US, and his parents had become US citizens and renounced allegiance to Cuba by the time of his birth, he's natural born. He needs to show his parents citizenship papers, and his long form birth certificate. You need to evaluate this according to the "birther" theory of law. In "real" law, being born on US soil is enough. "Birther" law is another thing entirely, and should be consistent with how it has been applied to Obama. Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-12   20:05:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Skip Intro (#2) In "real" law, being born on US soil is enough Dead wrong. Check out the 14th amendment.... subject to the jurisdiction thereof (US). Not British jurisdiction, or Kenyan. Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-12   20:09:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: hondo68 (#3) I repeat, in "real" law being born on US soil is enough. Unless you have real proof otherwise - a Supreme Court decision, for example - let's stick to the original question. Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-12   20:13:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Skip Intro (#4) a Supreme Court decision let's stick to the original question. US vs Kim Wong Ark. SCOTUS deemed that he was a US citizen, but did NOT say that he was "a natural born US citizen". He was born is the US, but his parents were Chinese citizens. He never became president, or even a candidate. Mitt Romney is probably ineligible since his father George was Mexican born. It's unknown if or when he became a US citizen. He was governor of Michigan. Bill Richardson is ineligible since his mother was a Mexican citizen at the time of his birth. You can't leave law out of this, so it's relevant to the original question. Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-12   20:33:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: hondo68 (#5) Getting back to the original question, this is from the US Dept of State Website: The Government of Cuba does not recognize the U.S. nationality of U.S. citizens who are Cuban-born or are the children of Cuban parents. These individuals will be treated solely as Cuban citizens and may be subject to a range of restrictions and obligations, including military service. So, is Rubio legally allowed to run for president, again using birther law as the guide? Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-12   20:37:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Skip Intro (#6) (Edited) The Government of Cuba does not recognize the U.S. nationality of U.S. citizens who are Cuban-born or are the children of Cuban parents. These individuals will be treated solely as Cuban citizens and may be subject to a range of restrictions and obligations, including military service. So, is Rubio legally allowed to run for president, again using birther law as the guide? No, under Cuban law he's ineligible to be THEIR president, it seems. What has this to do with Rubio's eligibility to be US president? I cite a US Supreme court decision, and you cite Cuban law. What's up with that? Are you under the jurisdiction of Fidel, Raul? Sandra Day0 is retired from SCOTUS, so we need not consider Scottish law, or Cuban I dare say. Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-12   20:55:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: hondo68 (#7) I cite a US Supreme court decision, and you cite Cuban law. What's up with that? Because the birthers always cite Kenyan Law or British Law to try and make their case. I agree with you that only US law applies. Interestingly, the FReepers are having this same discussion about Jindal. You can read it here. Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-12   21:04:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 8.         There are no replies to Comment # 8. End Trace Mode for Comment # 8. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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