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The Water Cooler Title: Is Marco Rubio a "Natural Born Citizen"? There has been talk on other sites (hint: Goldi-Lox and LP) about the desirability of Marco Rubio running for president. Since these sites are also by and large "birther" sites, I want to know if Rubio is considered a "natural born citizen" and if so, why. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 33. #1. To: Skip Intro (#0) (Edited) If he was born in the US, and his parents had become US citizens and renounced allegiance to Cuba by the time of his birth, he's natural born. He needs to show his parents citizenship papers, and his long form birth certificate.
All that's needed to prove hObama ineligible is a long form birth certificate from ANYWHERE showing that his father is Barack Obama. We already know that he was a British subject, that never became a US citizen.
#29. To: hondo68 (#1) If he was born in the US, and his parents had become US citizens and renounced allegiance to Cuba by the time of his birth, he's natural born. If he was born in the U.S., he is a citizen. PERIOD. It has nothing to do with his parents.
#30. To: jwpegler (#29) (Edited) If he was born in the U.S., he is a citizen. Ah, but the question is NOT if he's a US citizen. To be president you've got to be "a natural born US citizen". Thus the parents enter the picture.
#31. To: hondo68 (#30) To be president you've got to be "a natural born US citizen". Thus the parents enter the picture. No. If you born in the U.S. you are a natural born citizen. PERIOD. This is one reason people so outraged about illegal immigration. Mexican women cross the border illegally, have a baby in the U.S., and that baby is a U.S. citizen. Rubio was born in Miami, Florida so he is a natural born citizen. He is eligible to run for President.
#32. To: jwpegler (#31) (Edited) The Constitution reads "natural born citizen" for a reason. If they wanted to include all citizens they would have left out "natural born". They did not want the president to have any foreign allegiances, so no dual citizens like Obama and Rubio. (If in fact his parents had not renounced their Cuban citizenship by the time of his birth) If immigrants want their kids to be president they need to swear allegiance to the USA, before they have a child.
#33. To: hondo68 (#32) Huh??? What gives you the idea that Rubio is a dual citizen? Natural born means a person was born inside the United States, except those not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. government (such as children of ambassadors or other foreign diplomats). PERIOD. The other type of citizen is a naturalized citizen -- someone who wasn't born here, but became a citizen by choice. They cannot become President.
Replies to Comment # 33. #40. To: jwpegler, hondo68 (#33) Natural born means a person was born inside the United States, except those not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. government (such as children of ambassadors or other foreign diplomats). PERIOD. Incorrect jwpegler. The 14th amendment (which today has been bastardized) was nowhere in sight when the Constitution was written by the Founders. Using modern day terminology as you have, I could claim someone born via c-section was not "natural born". You have to look at what the meaning of words were when the Constitution was written. "Gay" today means something totally different than when the Constitution was penned.
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