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Published: Nov 2, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-11-02 09:21:50 by go65
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All the talking is done, today is the voting, tomorrow is the spinning.
Discuss!
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FWIW, I voted about 8 AM this morning, there was absolutely no line and I was in and out in 5 minutes. In 2008 I waited a good 20 minutes to vote.
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Vote only for the Local Props/sheriffs.
The system itself is structurally antagonistic toward citizen well-being and public interest policy. Congressional legislation will address these only under duress, only where circumstances force this upon it. And legislation will move to rescind any such concession on the parts of the elites the moment circumstances allow.
The Fact that the Dems were given an OVer All Mandate to TOTALLY diss the GOP and did Less Than 0 with that Mandate, tells you everything you need to know. 8D
#2. To: go65 (#0)
Lets add our predictions here.
70 plus House Seats, 10 or more Senate seats go GOP.
voted at 7:30AM this morning, #17 in my tiny rural community, which is the 'norm' here, given its farm country, and the county's entire population is only 45,000 or so. Made sure to thank the poll workers for asking for a photo ID, and for doing what they do.
I LOVE this day.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
#3. To: All (#1)
Discuss!
Afghan Police Unit Defects en Masse to Taliban Side By DEXTER FILKINS and SHARIFULLAH SAHAK
November 1, 2010
KABUL, Afghanistan — For months, American and Afghan officials have been promoting a plan to persuade masses of rank-and-file Taliban fighters to change sides and join the government. The tactic, known as "reintegration," is one of the big hopes for turning the tide in the war.
But the Taliban, it appears, have reintegration plans of their own. On Monday morning, they claimed to have put them into effect."
The only thing the Imperial City respects.
#4. To: mcgowanjm (#1)
in virginia we have 3 constitutional amendments on the ballot. the first allows localities rather than the state to set guidelines for property tax exemptions for seniors/disabled, the second allows for property tax exemptions for veterans disabled in the line of duty, the third allows the state to increase the size of its reserve fund.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#5. To: go65 (#4)
the first allows localities rather than the state to set guidelines for property tax exemptions for seniors/disabled, the second allows for property tax exemptions for veterans disabled in the line of duty, the third allows the state to increase the size of its reserve fund.
Exactly wrong.
The 1st creates even more loopholes for the wealthy. The 2nd does the same. The only ones left to pay, especially in VA, would be the disappearing Middle Class.
The 3rd is exactly the wrong thing for VA to do. Pay down it's debt to Zero.
#6. To: Badeye (#2) (Edited)
70 plus House Seats, 10 or more Senate seats go GOP.
538's final prediction is pretty close to Cook - 50-60 seats in the House swing to the GOP along with 6-8 Senate seats, with potential for either far less or far more. Cook adjusted their Senate forecast toward one more Democratic seat.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#7. To: All (#5)
If we look at the circumstance of how much government elites must respond to the will of the people, as Rudolf Rocker says this is always a function of how assertive the people are, from the bottom up. Only direct action ever spurred legislative change. All worthwhile legislation was just a formal validation of existing facts on the ground. And the system will always rescind this validation the moment it believes this citizen-imposed fact on the ground no longer exists.
Note that Obama had simply to sit on his hands and DADT becomes law. That O couldn't even bring himself to veto the BankForeclureNotarization Bill. A Pocket Veto instead.
That the US is fighting CA tooth and nail over the Marijuana Vote.
#8. To: Badeye (#2)
I LOVE this day.
Good morninng! It's a beautiful day, the three of us are taking the day to vote, and treat ourselves to dinner out ...
Reading some of the posts today should prove to be intesting too...&;-)
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
#9. To: All (#7)
Peak Oil, Climate Heat, USbp Ecocide, Genocide Iraq as a Theocracy forms.
Every time you hear about a TERRORBOMB plot, think this is as close as your state will come to addressing ANY of the above.
TELL me one thing the GOP plans to do when it 'gets in charge' of the state.
Release Pollard? LMFAO The US Empire crashes. Our Markets are on life support.
Our ALLies desert us as our jobs get sent overseas and those that stay pay Chinese wages.
#10. To: All (#9)
Where the rotten system empowers only two gangs espousing the same ideology, anyone outside this ideology, and all of its victims, is disenfranchised. When the non-rich submit to ”the vote”, they really just let a phony vote be palmed off on them. It’s like buying a raffle ticket where the prize doesn’t exist, because the organizers already stole it.
I'm voting only for the Sheriff. Cause he's the guy who's in charge of Foreclosures.
8D
#11. To: All (#10)
Oil.
I challenge ANYONE here to name ONE candidate who's talked about it.
Barton apologizing to bp and OMFGPalin 'Drill, baby, drill.'
That's it.
#12. To: go65 (#6)
538's final prediction is pretty close to Cook - 50-60 seats in the House swing to the GOP along with 6-8 Senate seats, with potential for either far less or far more. Cook adjusted their Senate forecast toward one more Democratic seat.
I know. He's wrong....(Laughing)
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
#13. To: Murron (#8)
Goodmorning Murron! Won't be able to see the posts after 5PM today. Planning on picking up a snack tray for tonight, always have a party at my house on election day.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
#14. To: All (#11)
Note the Voter Turnout today.
It’s typical that the turnout = legitimacy argument only goes one way. If enough voters turn out, the hacks and flacks will claim that legitimates the system. But if not enough turn out, they’ll implicitly (or in some cases explicitly) say in effect the voters aren’t worthy of the system.
That’s a basic distinction between a liberal and a true democrat. There’s no level of voter turnout which could be so low that the liberal would admit that prima facie the government is illegitimate. Where it comes to such things, a liberal will always side with the government.
#15. To: Badeye (#13)
If I were a little closer I would be there myself...have a great day!
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
#16. To: go65 (#4)
And of course any and ALL can now tell me about that FAMOUS Grassroots Campaign that placed E Voting Machines across the nation, NO Expense spared.
LMFAO
"But if you must vote on a Direct Recording Electronic (DRE, usually touch-screen) system, and have problems in the process, here is...
What to do if it happens to you:
* Call poll supervisors to observe the problem. * Fill out a problem report. * Refuse to vote on that machine. * Request that the machine be taken out of service. * Get a serial number of the machine if possible (may be difficult in many cases). * Tell other voters in line which machine it was and that they should NOT vote on that machine! * Report it to county/town election office. * Report it to the Secretary of State. * Call local reporters and tell them the story. * Call voter problem hotlines (eg. 866-OUR-VOTE) and report it. * Contact bloggers and Election Integrity websites. * Raise holy hell.
REMINDER: Please bring a video camera/cell phone camera when you go to vote so you can document these problems on video tape.
By Brad Friedman on 11/2/2010 4:05am PT
#17. To: mcgowanjm (#11) (Edited)
Oil.I challenge ANYONE here to name ONE candidate who's talked about it.
A third party candidate (American Constitution Party) Tom Tancredo. Clean coal, oil and gas, and cut government subsidies for "green" tech that doesn't work. If it worked, they wouldn't need subsidies.
When Tancredo/Palin are elected Prez/VP on the Constitution Party ticket in 2012, they may just drill an oil well in your neighborhood, then you can keep your eye on it. 8)
09/17/2010 Revisit and revise harmful Ritter-era regulations, including the restrictive new oil and gas regulations.
Colorado's oil and gas industry had been hit hard by the onerous regulations inflicted on them by the environmental special interest groups supported by John Hickenlooper and Bill Ritter. The cost has hit most Colorado residents through higher prices for basic utilities and has cost thousands of jobs in the last few years.
The insistences on the taxpayer funded "green jobs" initiative has created very few new jobs relative to those lost in the important energy sectors of Colorado. There are hard working people on the Western Slope who have families to feed working for clean coal and natural gas companies who have had that opportunity ripped out from under them. [snip]
tancredoforgovernor2010.o...s/issues_display.php?id=6
#18. To: Murron (#15)
Having a ball already.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
#19. To: hondo68 (#17)
Energy cannot be subsidized.
You only lower the EROEI trying.
Colorado Oil/Gas gets everything it wants. The problem is a negative EROEI.
When extrapolating the aftermath of local oil production declines to global Peak Oil, the unstated assumption is that the global economy will continue to function with uncanny smoothness at the level of demand that can be met, while unmet demand will be cleanly washed off into the gutter by a strong, steady stream of economic and political nonsense. This will all sort itself out spontaneously with rational market participants responding to price signals and deciding at each instant whether they should:
A. continue consuming oil in the manner to which they have become accustomed, or
B. quietly wander off and die without calling attention to themselves or making a fuss.
#20. To: All (#19)
And the above is more info than you're ever gonna get from your pol &/or MSM.
#21. To: go65 (#0)
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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
#22. To: All (#20)
Report: Israel PM offers to trade freeze for US spy Ma'an news
November 1, 2010
Ma’an - JERUSALEM – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has suggested to US President Barack Obama to free Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard in exchange for extending settlement freeze in the West Bank for 60 days, an Israeli news site reported Saturday.
And this Pollard must really be a Big Swingin' Mossad dick.
The Navy will not let him out w/o a....I can't imagine. ;}
#23. To: mcgowanjm (#11)
Oil.I challenge ANYONE here to name ONE candidate who's talked about it.
I think you can add the jolly little wars to your list.
“You know, the two wars that we’re in right now is exactly what we’re in.” - Sharron Angle, Tea Party Loon and future US Senator
#24. To: Skip Intro (#23)
I think you can add the jolly little wars to your list.
And thank you, SI. ;}
As I peer through the fog and attempt to see visions of things to be, I see nothing but pain ahead. Anyone who can look at the following chart and not conclude that there is much pain ahead for this country is either a Goldman Sachs banker, a Federal Reserve Governor, or a bought off politician in Washington DC. It is no coincidence that after Richard Nixon closed the gold window in 1971 and allowed the Federal Reserve to “manage” our economy that total debt outstanding in the US surged from $2 trillion to over $50 trillion.
©©The Chinese dragon has its glittering eye on Ireland: Ireland May Have Just One Month to Stave Off Bailout Danger: Euro Credit. China is even helping Iceland get bailed out. All of this at a cost: they must become part of the new Chinese empire. But then, the US can’t bail out anyone since our own economic ship is sinking. And we have no ‘money’ to spare since most of it is focused on making Israel impregnable rather than the US impregnable."
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-suicide-painless
The U.S. military knows we are on the verge of an oil crisis. There are no new supplies ready to come on line before 2015. The President and his advisors know that an oil crisis is in our immediate future. We have military bases in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Kuwait. We have active fighting forces in Afghanistan and Pakistan. We have a naval armada of aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. Our forces completely encircle Iran. Is this a coincidence when the countries with the largest oil reserves in the world are noted?
1. Saudi Arabia – 262 billion barrels 2. Iran – 133 billion barrels 3. Iraq – 112 billion barrels 4. Kuwait – 97 billion barrels
The war on terror is a cover for access to the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Middle East."
#25. To: All (#24)
The war on terror is a cover for access to the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Middle East."
And a btw:
The Fellow's Quote above assumes that the OPEC Reserve numbers are accurate. They are not.
Cut them in 1/2 at least.
#26. To: All (#25)
The war on terror is a cover for access to the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Middle East."
Ex-the Saudis have been pumping 9 mbpd for the last 40 years and yet their reserves magically stay the same.
#27. To: mcgowanjm, All (#11)
Oil.I challenge ANYONE here to name ONE candidate who's talked about it.
I challenge you to update us on the evacuation of the Gulf Coast and the death toll as a result of Obama's oil disaster, mcclown! Can anybody or does anybody want to assist mcclown? He seems to be in dire need of help. Maybe psychiatric treatment would be beneficial.
#28. To: go65 (#0)
Here are excerpts from a few predictions by the major election analysts that were published in Campaigns & Elections two weeks before the 1994 midterms:
Charles Cook, editor and publisher of the Cook Political Report:
"The Democrats will lose 20-25 in the House; four to five in the Senate. I'm seeing softening for Democrats in key Senate races, such as Virginia. Anti -incumbency, despondency among Democratic voters and a galvanization of GOP voters are the overarching trends. Democrats are disillusioned with Clinton; Republicans hate him and will turn out in droves. The GOP vote is coming home and it's hardening earlier than usual."
Stuart Rothenberg, editor and publisher of the Rothenberg Report, a political newsletter:
"The Democrats will lose 24-26 seats in the House; three to five in the Senate. They're vulnerable in the South and in traditionally Republican districts in the North that they've been able to hold in the past by splitting the Republicans. However, President Clinton's unpopularity is uniting the GOP. This isn't a particularly ideological election, though. It's just insiders versus outsiders, and Democrats are the insiders right now. Voters remain skeptical about the role of government, another negative for Democrats. Clinton has tried to alter this widespread mistrust of governmental activism, but he hasn't succeeded."
Larry Sabato, professor of government at the University of Virginia:
"My slogan has always been: 'He who lives by the Crystal Ball ends up eating ground glass.' Nevertheless, it looks like Democrats will be lucky to lose only 24-25 seats in the House and four in the Senate. Much of it hinges on President Clinton's popularity. Many of these elections are turning into a referendum on Bill Clinton, as is usually the case with mid-term elections and the President in power. About a half dozen Senate races will be decided with less than two percent of the vote. So last-minute trends will matter.
Clinton could bounce back, as he's done in the past, and that could reduce Democratic losses. I don't think his approval rating will sink any lower than about 35 percent; that's his floor and he's close to it now. If anything, I think his popularity might rise a little bit between now and election day. When all is said and done, there's only one thing we know for sure: the Democrats will lose a lot of seats in both Houses."
The other analysts' predictions cited in the piece were 25 House seats (Jack Germond), 20-25 seats (Gloria Borger), 25 seats (Cokie Roberts), and 25 seats (William Schneider). Notice a pattern? Of course that's not what happened—instead Republicans ended up shocking the world with a 54-seat gain and their first House majority in 40 years.
The reason I bring this up is that the current pundit predictions, although a rough estimate, are almost as uniform as they were then in predicting GOP gains of 50-60 seats. New York Times election guru Nate Silver has a detailed piece today explaining the unusual amount of uncertainty in this election and it truly is a must-read. As many of the analysts themselves acknowledge, just because the consensus number is about 55 seats, doesn't mean that much larger or smaller gains aren't possible for Republicans. There could still be some major factor in the races that the pollsters have so far failed to detect.
www.thedailybeast.com/bel...east/a-midterm-flashback/
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
#29. To: Badeye (#28) (Edited)
The reason I bring this up is that the current pundit predictions, although a rough estimate, are almost as uniform as they were then in predicting GOP gains of 50-60 seats. New York Times election guru Nate Silver has a detailed piece today explaining the unusual amount of uncertainty in this election and it truly is a must-read. As many of the analysts themselves acknowledge, just because the consensus number is about 55 seats, doesn't mean that much larger or smaller gains aren't possible for Republicans. There could still be some major factor in the races that the pollsters have so far failed to detect.
Agreed. SIlver published two separate pieces showing why Republican gains could be much larger or much smaller than predicted.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#30. To: go65 (#29)
Silver hedge his bet. Not impressed at all by THAT.
Coons is panicking in Delaware, says the two biggest Dem strongholds are having anemic turnout.
If the historical record of the pollsters holds up...it exceeds what I predicted.
We'll see.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
#31. To: Badeye (#30)
Silver hedge his bet. Not impressed at all by THAT.
So is Cook, Sabato, etc.
Coons is panicking in Delaware, says the two biggest Dem strongholds are having anemic turnout.
We'll see in a few hours.
If the historical record of the pollsters holds up...it exceeds what I predicted.
We'll see in a few hours.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#32. To: mcgowanjm (#10)
I'm voting only for the Sheriff. Cause he's the guy who's in charge of Foreclosures.8D
I voted for Sheriff and most (not all) of the other local offices when I knew about the candidates.
I expect Rand Paul to win by 10 points tonight here in Kentucky.
#33. To: mcgowanjm (#16)
REMINDER: Please bring a video camera/cell phone camera when you go to vote so you can document these problems on video tape.
Today I noticed something I hadn't noticed in the past at the polling stations. They had yellow signs up that said no cell phones were authorized in the room, except for those working the polls.
They didn't have these signs up at the entrance to the building so I suspect there was lax enforcement - I'll guess most voters were in and out in 15 minutes or less.
I'm still asking myself why no cell phones in 2010 in the polls????
#34. To: mcgowanjm (#24)
1. Saudi Arabia – 262 billion barrels 2. Iran – 133 billion barrels 3. Iraq – 112 billion barrels 4. Kuwait – 97 billion barrelsThe war on terror is a cover for access to the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Middle East."
That makes the most obvious sense.
#35. To: Fred Mertz (#33)
i noticed two things
- a campaigner for our Republican challenger for the house offering candy at 8:15 AM to a little girl walking with her mom to the entrance. The mom looked at him with an "are you freaking crazy" look.
- no "I voted" stickers this year due to county budget cuts.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#36. To: Badeye (#30)
Pollster's final prediction - 48 house seat gain for the GOP and an 86% chance that the Democrats retain the Senate (they have it at 48-46 with 4 undecided).
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#37. To: go65 (#36)
Pollster's final prediction - 48 house seat gain for the GOP and an 86% chance that the Democrats retain the Senate (they have it at 48-46 with 4 undecided).
My Prediction:
70 plus House Seats go GOP.
10 Senate Seats go GOP.
See you after its over. Enjoy watching our country find its voice at last.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
#38. To: Badeye (#37) (Edited)
i've now gotten 4 calls and one knock on my door from our Dem. Rep's campaign today. They visited our home 3 other times in the last week.
Meanwhile, we got one door hanging in the same time from the Republican challenger, and this is a district that flipped to the Democrats in 2008 after 14 years of GOP control.
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EDIT - just got call #5 from the Democrats campaign.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#39. To: All (#38) (Edited)
Election night spin bingo card:
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#40. To: All (#39)
first round of calls based on exit polling:
Arkansas: Boozman (R) defeats Lincoln (D)
Ohio: Portman (R) defeats Fisher (D)
North Dakota: Hoeven (R) defeats Potter (D)
Wisconsin: Johnson (R) defeats Feingold (D)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#41. To: go65 (#39)
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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
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