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Title: Put up or Shut Up (Predict outcome next Tuesday)
Source: Badeye
URL Source: http://n/a
Published: Oct 27, 2010
Author: Badeye
Post Date: 2010-10-27 11:50:41 by Badeye
Keywords: None
Views: 11015
Comments: 29

Okay folks, its time to put up or shut up. We have an election in six days that will decide if we want another two years of liberalism, or restoration of divided government as the Founders intended.

I'm clearly on record as predicting 70 plus seats gained by the Republican Party in the House, and with it a clear majority there.

I'm clearly on record as saying they will pick up the 10 seats required to attain a nominal majority in the Senate.

Put up, or shut up.

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#1. To: Badeye (#0)

55 seat gain for the GOP in the house

7 seat gain for the GOP in the Senate


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-27   11:57:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#1)

Thanks!

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-27   12:04:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Badeye (#0)

48 seat gain in the House.

5 to 7 in the Senate (GOP will lose in California, Washington, Connecticut, Delaware, and probably Illinois and Pennsylvania)

9 Governorships + Tancredo, who will win in Colorado. The GOP candidate will get under 5% in Colorado.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-27   12:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: jwpegler (#3)

Thanks!

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-27   12:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#3) (Edited)

Here's how I see the Senate:

The GOP will not lose any seats they hold now.

The GOP will certainly pick up 4 seats: Arkansas, Indiana, North Dakota, and Wisconsin.

The GOP will not pick up California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, or Washington

The GOP could pick up an addition 4 seats in: Illinois, Nevada, Pennsylvania, West Virginia.

I will bet on Nevada, which makes my base 5.

If Illinois is close, it will be stolen from the GOP. Pennsylvania is like fools gold to the GOP (it always look good at first, but then turns out to be nothing). When was the last time West Virgina voted for a Republican Senator? 1958!


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-27   12:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: jwpegler (#5)

I understand where your coming from here. My view would be the same except for one thing.

GOP turnout nationally is going to dwarf Dem turnout. Also, I think the 'undecideds' will break dramatically for the Republicans in almost every single race across the board.

We'll see.

I have decided on thing, however. Anyone in the forum that doesn't have the guts to put themselves 'on the record' here BEFORE the election, isn't worth debating AFTER the election. Figure I'll just filter em.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-27   12:36:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jwpegler (#5)

The GOP will not pick up California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, or Washington

The GOP has at least as good a chance of winning CO as losing.

DE and CN are lost causes. The GOP gave away a sure seat in DE.

CA is beginning to look that way, too.

Slim shot in WA.

The GOP could pick up an addition 4 seats in: Illinois, Nevada, Pennsylvania, West Virginia.

They could easily pick up all 4.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-27   12:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: no gnu taxes (#7)

DE and CN are lost causes. The GOP gave away a sure seat in DE.

I"m not so sure about the 'prevailing wisdom' related to Delaware, either the 'sure thing' - Castle lost the primary by a large margin - or if its a 'lost cause'.

Delaware's polling data is notoriously inaccurate. Election cycle after election cycle, including this one.

O'Donnell was allegedly DOWN 25% just before the primary for example. She won by 6%.

We'll see what happens.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-27   14:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Badeye (#8)

Larry Sabato just released his final prediction:

55 seat gain in the House, 8 seat gain in the Senate.

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/ljs2010102801/


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-28   9:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Badeye (#8)

25? 2-5=3. Thats what she was really down for most of the last month.

I needed to explain my alleged math.

Boofer T. Bagger  posted on  2010-10-28   9:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: go65 (#9)

Larry Sabato just released his final prediction:

55 seat gain in the House, 8 seat gain in the Senate.

Yep, saw him saying it last night on O'Reilly.

We'll see.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-28   11:32:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: go65 (#9)

8 seat gain in the Senate.

My view is that possible range is 4 to 8. There aren't going to get all 8.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-28   11:35:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: jwpegler (#12)

My view is that possible range is 4 to 8. There aren't going to get all 8.

I see it as 8 sure things, with five opportunities to pick up the other 2.

We'll know by 11PM EST Tuesday night.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-28   11:37:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Badeye (#13)

I see it as 8 sure things

Which ones?


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-28   12:17:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Badeye (#0)

Predict outcome next Tuesday

OK. Here's my prediction.

The pubbies get the house, and maybe the senate.

Then, the pubbies will put on a grand old show! (cue the dogs and ponies).

They will pass bills to undo health-care, stimulus, bail-outs yadda yadda yadda, since they know there is not a chance in hell of Obama signing the bills, and the numbers aren't there for a veto override. (They would NEVER pass such bills if they knew there was a chance of them passing).

All of those programs WILL continue. The pubbies will claim they really really really want those programs ended, but Obama stands in the way. And if the pubbies EVER get a real chance to do something real about them after a few more election cycles, they will state that these programs are now too ingrained into "The American Way of Life" to do anything about them, and that they have to stay in place. (Social Security ring a bell????)

Nothing, other than the widow dressing, will change.

The "one party" will have bamboozled the American public yet again, gaining more time to do EXACTLY what it wants, while giving Americans hope that the exact opposite is "true".

How's that for a prediction?

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-10-28   22:33:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Wood_Chopper (#15)

All of those programs WILL continue. The pubbies will claim they really really really want those programs ended, but Obama stands in the way. And if the pubbies EVER get a real chance to do something real about them after a few more election cycles, they will state that these programs are now too ingrained into "The American Way of Life" to do anything about them, and that they have to stay in place. (Social Security ring a bell????)

Nothing, other than the widow dressing, will change.

Do you think the GOP will vote to raise the debt ceiling?


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-28   22:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: go65 (#16)

Do you think the GOP will vote to raise the debt ceiling?

The pubs AND the dims will pass it. By the slimmest of margins, of course. By one vote probably.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-10-28   22:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Badeye (#15) (Edited)

(W-C)They will pass bills to undo health-care, stimulus, bail-outs yadda yadda yadda, since they know there is not a chance in hell of Obama signing the bills, and the numbers aren't there for a veto override. (They would NEVER pass such bills if they knew there was a chance of them passing).

All of those programs WILL continue. The pubbies will claim they really really really want those programs ended, but Obama stands in the way. And if the pubbies EVER get a real chance to do something real about them after a few more election cycles, they will state that these programs are now too ingrained into "The American Way of Life" to do anything about them, and that they have to stay in place. (Social Security ring a bell????)

Well gee golly fuck. Look what I found.

Here it is from one of the neo-con mouthpieces setting it up, Chuckie Krauthammer:

Over the next two years, Republicans will not be able to pass anything of importance to them - such as repealing Obamacare - because of the presidential veto. The direction of the country will be determined in November 2012 when either Obama gets a mandate to finish building his "New Foundation" or the Republicans elect one of their own to repeal it, or what (by then) remains repealable.

NOTHING WILL CHANGE ON NOV 2.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-10-29   2:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Wood_Chopper (#15)

How's that for a prediction?

Given the specific question?

Poor. This is about whats going to happen next Tuesday night, election outcomes.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-29   8:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Wood_Chopper (#18)

NOTHING WILL CHANGE ON NOV 2.

Actually, thats simply not fact based.

If for no other reason than the House of Representatives will NOT be a rubber stamp for this insane Whitehouse.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-29   8:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Wood_Chopper (#17)

The pubs AND the dims will pass it. By the slimmest of margins, of course. By one vote probably.

We'll see.

That will be the real test as to whether or not the GOP is serious about cutting spending. If they vote to raise the debt ceiling the current GOP civil war will seem like a skirmish.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-29   10:18:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Badeye (#20)

If for no other reason than the House of Representatives will NOT be a rubber stamp for this insane Whitehouse.

And we've both agreed that things will get worse next year.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-29   10:18:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: go65 (#22)

Channelling Grayson again.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-29   11:42:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Badeye (#23)

Channelling Grayson again.

Grayson didn't say things would get worse next year, you did.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-29   12:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: go65 (#24)

Sure, Mr Grayson, sure.

Gee...if Christine O'Donnell is 'sure to lose'...why is Owe-bama suddenly heading back to Delaware tomorrow? Why has Coons cancelled the last two debates?

(laughing)

four more days.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-29   12:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Badeye (#25)

Grayson didn't say things would get worse next year, you did.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-29   12:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: go65 (#26)

Sure, Mr Grayson, sure.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-29   12:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: badeye (#1)

55 seat gain for the GOP in the house

7 seat gain for the GOP in the Senate

as of now, GOP takes 6 Senate seats and 65 House seats, with several more TBD.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-03   9:59:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: go65 (#28)

I"m fine with how it turned out.

Democrats control 2/3rds of the Federal Government. So much for 'running against the Congress' in 2012. and so much for 'its the GOP's defict now' btw.

Tactically, a nice position for Republicans moving forward.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-03   10:07:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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