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The Water Cooler Title: Poll: Jerry Brown Has Double-Digit Lead Over Meg Whitman Democrat Jerry Brown has opened a double-digit lead over Republican Meg Whitman in the governor's race, according to a new Los Angeles Times/USC poll. Brown was leading Whitman 52 percent to 39 percent among likely voters, expanding his lead particularly among women and Latino voters, according to the poll. Brown, campaigning this morning at several churches in south Los Angeles, said after one stop that he is "cautiously optimistic" about his chances in November. He was campaigning with the Democratic candidate for lieutenant governor, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom. Brown struck a populist tone, saying California is a wealthy state but that officials must "spread it out," not "suck it all up to the top." He criticized Whitman for her scant voting record and called on congregants to cast ballots Nov. 2. Whitman was campaigning yesterday in the Los Angeles area. She had no scheduled public events today. Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade* Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-21) not displayed.
Proposition 187 also known as the Save Our State (SOS). That’s one reason. The other is unfunded State employee pensions. Brown signed the ability for State workers to bargain collectively through The Dill act. He legalized collective bargaining for the public-employee unions. My kids have yet to even have their first jobs, yet they each owe $10,000 to unions that make sure Brown gets reelected. Like the Mayor and managers of Bell city , Brown and the DNC raped the state for personal gain. -----------------------------------------------------------
#23. To: hondo68 (#19) LOL! Yeah, that's what we need more taxes, NOT. If it weren't for the taxes collected from the oil industry, nice conservative states like Alaska would be in deep dodo. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson #24. To: WhiteSands (#20) Please tell us when the Republicans held the majority in the California State legislature. With the two thirds majority rule and the initiative process, California Republicans don't need a majority in the state legislature. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson #25. To: lucysmom (#24) With the two thirds majority rule and the initiative process, California Republicans don't need a majority in the state legislature. Prop 187 SOS was an initiate to save money. -----------------------------------------------------------
#26. To: A K A Stone (#21) The problem with California is that your assinine faggot courts struck down prop whatever... It was prop 187, it was struck down in a federal court, and sexual orientation had nothing to do with it - otherwise the above is accurate. But you can't do that because your state is PC state and you don't want to hurt the poor little illegals feelings.
Well that, and the court found the law to be unconstitutional on the basis that it infringed the federal government's exclusive jurisdiction over matters relating to immigration, similar to the Supreme Court ruling in Plyler v. Doe.
Well until you say screw them and deport their asses your state will decline.
Yeah, who cares about that pesky Constitution anyway. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson #27. To: WhiteSands (#22) The other is unfunded State employee pensions. Have you heard of CalPERS? Do you know what it is or how it functions? Free Market baby! Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson #28. To: lucysmom (#26) (Edited) Yeah, who cares about that pesky Constitution anyway. Dem Gray Davis halted its appeals. Who cares about the desires of the people to see if a laws Constitutional and save their state? -----------------------------------------------------------
#29. To: WhiteSands (#25) Prop 187 SOS was an initiate to save money. Yep. Too bad a federal court ruled it was unconstitutional. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson #30. To: lucysmom (#27) Have you heard of CalPERS? Do you know what it is or how it functions? Yes I have heard of them. Have you? You feel it's private enterprise. Telling. -----------------------------------------------------------
#31. To: WhiteSands (#28) Who cares about the desires of the people to see if a laws Constitutional and save tier state? A federal court ruled prop 187 unconstitutional. As for the desires of the people - the founding fathers gave us a republican form of government to protect from the whims of the masses and to protect the rights of minorities. America, love it or leave it. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson #32. To: lucysmom (#29) Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson Are you an anarchist? -----------------------------------------------------------
#33. To: WhiteSands (#30) You feel it's private enterprise. It is state employee plus the state as employer contributions invested in the market. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson #34. To: lucysmom (#31) As for the desires of the people - the founding fathers gave us a republican form of government to protect from the whims of the masses and to protect the rights of minorities. Hence the current changes next week. So you have shown you are OK with what the DNC has done to the state of California. Baby! -----------------------------------------------------------
#35. To: lucysmom (#33) It is state employee plus the state as employer contributions invested in the market. Calpers is a government organization.Using pension monies to invest in the markets. Back to : you have no issue with how the DNC runs California- Baby Doll! -----------------------------------------------------------
#36. To: WhiteSands (#32) Are you an anarchist? No, I am a patriot, and an admirer of Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson #37. To: lucysmom (#33) Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson How does your tag line match your desire to see pension monies taken for investment with global merchants? -----------------------------------------------------------
#38. To: WhiteSands (#35) Calpers is a government organization.Using pension monies to invest in the markets. Perhaps you'd have preferred the retirement money was invested with Bernie Madoff? Back to : you have no issue with how the DNC runs California- Baby Doll!
When they do. I'll let you know. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson #39. To: hondo68, lucysmom (#19) LOL! Yeah, that's what we need more taxes, NOT. Palin imposed windfall profits tax on Alaska's oil companies, so therefore such taxes are conservative.
#40. To: lucysmom (#36) Re your: The Federal Judges Ruled Prop 187 Unconsitutional: Federal Judiciary "The germ of dissolution of our federal government is in...the federal judiciary; an irresponsible body, (for impeachment is scarcely a scare-crow,) working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little to-day and a little to-morrow, and advancing its noiseless step like a thief, over the field of jurisdiction, until all shall be usurped from the States." Thomas Jefferson, 1821 -----------------------------------------------------------
#41. To: WhiteSands (#37) How does your tag line match your desire to see pension monies taken for investment with global merchants? I thought we were discussing what is, not my desires. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson #42. To: lucysmom (#38) Taxes To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson Source: Virginia Statutes of Religious Freedom, 1779 -----------------------------------------------------------
#43. To: lucysmom (#41) As for the desires of the people - the founding fathers gave us a republican form of government to protect from the whims of the masses and to protect the rights of minorities. You brought up the founders to discuss- what is. Your tag line mentions a founder and explains what your feelings are about - what is. Taxes To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson Source: Virginia Statutes of Religious Freedom, 1779 -----------------------------------------------------------
#44. To: go65 (#39) Palin imposed windfall profits tax on Alaska's oil companies, so therefore such taxes are conservative. Palin is NOT a conservative. Have you been listening to FAUX sNews, Carl Rove, and MSLSD Kief Overdose?
#45. To: go65 (#39) Palin imposed windfall profits tax on Alaska's oil companies, so therefore such taxes are conservative. If a republican does it, its conservative; if a democrat did it it would be Communist especially if the money was paid to residents of the state as it in in Alaska. Redistribution doncha know. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson #46. To: WhiteSands (#42) To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Time for the DoD to have bake sales. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson #47. To: lucysmom (#46) Time for the DoD to have bake sales. We can avoid the bake sale by cutting all DOD expenditures in the Blue States. Cut all anti terror funds and move DOD bases and factories out of Blue States. Consolidation of the factories will create savings. Those bases and former manufacturing sites should be used for better Blue state purposes. We don't want them to be police states or contribute to the war machine. -----------------------------------------------------------
#48. To: WhiteSands (#47) We can avoid the bake sale by cutting all DOD expenditures in the Blue States. Been there, done that years ago. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson #49. To: lucysmom (#48) Sadly as we hold true to our values of disarmamnet we loose jobs.
Factors that Contribute to the State’s Shortfall- A variety of factors likely contribute to the widening of the state’s taxes-versus-spending disparity; three stand out as key drivers: age, income, and reduced defense spending. First, as discussed previously, California is a relatively young state and thus has fewer residents receiving payments under Social Security and Medicare, which constitute an increasingly large slice of the federal budget pie. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 10.6 percent of Californians were age 65 or older in 2003, compared to 12.4 percent of all U.S. residents – as such, California had the 6th lowest percentage of its population over the age of 65.
Second, California remains a relatively prosperous state. Despite economic downturns in the early 1990s and this decade, incomes of California’s residents remain above the national average. Thus, the state’s residents pay proportionally more in federal income taxes under a progressive tax system.
Third, a key non-demographic factor in California’s ongoing funding disparity is the state’s slippage over the past 20 years in federal defense spending, including both contract procurement and military and civilian wages and salaries. The nation’s total defense contract spending had fallen from $123 billion in 1991 to $108 billion in 1998 (a drastic drop-off even before accounting for inflation) but expenditures then began a rebound that reached $183 billion in 2003. California’s defense procurement funding, on the other hand, experienced a faster fall and a slower recovery – dropping from $23.6 billion in 1991 to $17.3 billion in 1998, and climbing back only as far as $17.9 billion in 2000 before three growth years brought the 2003 total to $26 billion. Whereas the early 1980s saw nearly one-fourth of defense contract dollars spent in California, the state’s share fell to a record low 14.2 percent in 2003. http://www.calinst.org/pubs/balance2003.htm -----------------------------------------------------------
#50. To: lucysmom, ALL (#45) If a republican does it, its conservative; if a democrat did it it would be Communist especially if the money was paid to residents of the state as it in in Alaska. Redistribution doncha know. You stupid libTURD b!tch. Part of the Alaska STATEHOOD compact between the STATE of Alaska and the feral gooberment, which was ratified by the people of Alaska and the CONgress in 1959, gave ALASKA a 90% "severance" on ALL natural resources ever developed in the STATE. But once commercial oil fields were discovered, and real money was involved the CONgress unilaterally changed that to 10%. You ignorant b!tch. In other words you stupid b!tch, the feral gooberment just betrayed a written STATEHOOD compact. So by all rights the feral gooberment owes Alaska 80% severance from the first commercial sales until today. But of course a libTURD skank tool such as you is just fine with THAT aren't you? And you slack jawed drooler, OBVIOUSLY repukelican't does NOT = CONSERVATIVE. But demonRAT does = big gooberment hate America first TYRANNY. The political division is NOT repukelican't or demonRAT it's CONSERVATIVE vs. big gooberment statist you ignorant gibbering cow. And you slack jawed MORON, nobody including those of us who support Governor Palin like or support her stupid "ACES" bill. You see you gibbering cow, in the REAL world nobody agreees 100% with anything that anybody does, especially in politics. Further you gibbering cow how can someone who CLAIMS to be a supporter of the founding fathers and a "patriot" and a believer in the US Constitution, defend the feral gooberment's overturning of a STATE'S rights LAW such as prop 187 with a straight face? Oh THAT's right! you are just a lying libTURD gibbering cow FRAUD. I forgot. My bad. Poor Lucy Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free! #51. To: Mad Dog (#50) You guys are sure sensitive about the transfer of wealth from the oil companies via the state to the residents of Alaska. Just the mention Alaska's redistribution of private wealth causes heads to explode. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson #52. To: lucysmom (#51) You sure are eager to steal from people better off financially than yourself, goofy. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #53. To: Badeye (#52) You sure are eager to steal from people better off financially than yourself Bzzzzz Wrong again. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson #54. To: lucysmom (#53) Your posts, dozens of them actually, here, show I'm 100% correct. But its ago, goofy, we all know how you like to pretend. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #55. To: lucysmom, ALL (#51) (Edited) LOL! It's not "redistribution" you gibbering cow. Alaska by our STATEHOOD compact AND Constitution, (both ratified by the US CONgress) holds ALL of the state's resources in common. I guess a "patriot" who believes in the US Constitution such as you, is just fine with the feral gooberment changing the deal twenty years after the fact eh cow? You don't have ANY problem with the feral gooberment overturning prop 187 in California either, your belief in the Constitution and STATES RIGHTS is just Sooooooooooooo strong eh cow? /S Not to mention that a "patriot" such as you who Sooooooooooo believes in the US Constitution doesn't even know what federalism is, let alone support it. You see you LYING libTURD FRAUD, OUR founding fathers believed in the several states running themselves as THEY saw fit, not being mere sub units of the feral gooberment. In other words you gibbering cow California runs it's state as it's people see fit and Alaska and every other state does the same thing in THEIR state. No you gibbering COW, I'm not "sensitive", what I am is fed up with you and your ilk's invincible IGNORANCE and LIES about the American Constitution, and federalism. What I am is fed up with is a stupid, LYING, libTURD whore/tool such as you talking out of your big fat ass, with absolutely zero idea of what you are talking about. What I am is fed up with your gibbering by rote repetition of the monster's and whore's talking points, the monsters and whores who are busy killing this nation while TRYING to hide behind the Constitution and Founding Fathers. You are without any doubt one of the most brain dead, slack jawed, gibbering libTURD whore/tool LIARS that currently infests the American body politic. Poor Lucy Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free! #56. To: hondo68 (#44) Palin is NOT a conservative. Hondope is an ignoramus.
#57. To: lucysmom, All (#55) Nothing to say "patriot"? Aren't you going to tell us all now about how sharia law and the US Constitution are "compatible" "patriot"? You are nothing but a foul, gibbering, LYING, slack jawed, drooling libTURD whore/tool shill FRAUD. POOR Lucy Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free! #58. To: Mad Dog (#57) I like women as much as you do. Were going to get a long together. Would you like to get a long together? I have a Hummer.
#59. To: the banned DwarF today aka Boofer T. Bagger, A K A Stone, All (#58) What's the matter dWarF? Miss posting here so much you put a new "handle" on every day? Did you get banned from your new swamp already LOSER? You pitiful LOSER. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free! #60. To: Mad Dog (#59) You and Whitesands should get together. She thinks so too. She also thinks Fred. She's walking home tonight. No Hummer for her. Tomorrow you get another guess. Did the piggy go wee wee wee all the way home after he shot down three big bad wolfs? Laughing.
#61. To: the banned DwarF today aka Boofer T. Bagger, A K A Stone, All (#60) Yawn ... "What's the matter dWarF? Miss posting here so much you put a new "handle" on every day? Did you get banned from your new swamp already LOSER? You pitiful LOSER. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free! #62. To: Boofer T. Bagger (#60) "You and Whitesands should get together. She thinks so too. She also thinks Fred. She's walking home tonight". Jealous? Needn't be, you're more her type, WS is right up your alley...literally... "I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee . . . Comments (63 - 71) not displayed. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest |
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