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Title: Christine O'Donnell Asks Where Constitution Calls For Separation Of Church, State
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://www.bnd.com/2010/10/19/14432 ... nell-questions-separation.html
Published: Oct 19, 2010
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2010-10-19 11:29:00 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 198544
Comments: 236

WASHINGTON -- Republican Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell of Delaware is questioning whether the U.S. Constitution prohibits the government from establishing religion.

In a debate at Widener University Law School, O'Donnell criticized Democratic nominee Chris Coons' position that teaching creationism in public school would violate the First Amendment by promoting religious doctrine.

O'Donnell asked where the Constitution calls for the separation of church and state. When Coons responded that the First Amendment bars Congress from making laws respecting the establishment of religion, O'Donnell asked: "You're telling me that's in the First Amendment?" Delaware Senate

The exchange Tuesday aired on radio station WDEL generated a buzz among law professors and students in the audience. Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade*

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Pssst. She's right. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say a thing about 'seperation of church and state'.

The history, and the revisionist history, related to this...theory, is facinating and revealing.

It was from a USSC minority ruling, designed to keep a specific religion from attaining elective office, in short.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   11:31:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

Somebody PLEASE tell me this was taken out of context!

Although I suppose the fundie bible thumpers will be shouting with joy over this because they think THEIR cult will be "the one,true state religion".

Meanwhile,the fundie Muslims will be wetting their pants with joy and smiling behind their hands.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-19   11:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

WASHINGTON -- Republican Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell of Delaware is questioning whether the U.S. Constitution prohibits the government from establishing religion.

That's just insane.

Lack of sex has rotted her brain.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-19   11:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#0)

Christine O'Donnell Asks Where Constitution Calls For Separation Of Church, State

Because it doesn't.

Things That Are Not In the U.S. Constitution

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2010-10-19   11:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#3) (Edited)

# # Jefferson's Wall of Separation Letter - The U.S. Constitution ... Jun 1, 2010 ... The letter contains the phrase "wall of separation between church and state," which led to the short-hand for the Establishment Clause that ...

www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall.html - Cached - Similar

And here's where we get to it. For the Sexless One's perusal:

Give me the reason why the Church is NOT taxed.

Then give me the reason why the Church will NOT be taxed IMMEDIATELY @ 10% for ALL infrastructure/monies.

Let's play. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-19   11:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mcgowanjm (#5)

Jefferson's Wall of Separation Letter

is a letter, it's not in the Constitution. BTW, neither is the right for Obama & His Statists to force us to buy anything from a private business, such as insurance. And I don't think Jefferson ever even wrote a letter about that one.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2010-10-19   11:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mcgowanjm (#3)

Republican Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell of Delaware is questioning whether the U.S. Constitution prohibits the government from establishing religion.

Dumbass author.

She never questioned that.

That's not the same thing as claiming there is no separation of church and State in the constitution.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-19   11:44:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Happy Quanzaa (#6)

"...I don't think..."

Cool, you got something right.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   11:45:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mcgowanjm (#3)

"Lack of sex has rotted her brain."

Or lack of brain has rotted her sexual equipment.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   11:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ferret Mike (#8)

that was pretty limp wristed comment, sweetheart.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2010-10-19   11:49:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Happy Quanzaa (#10)

"that was pretty limp wristed comment, sweetheart."

Flattery will get you no where. You are not just the wrong gender for a sexual bender; you aren't even my type.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   11:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete (#2)

Somebody PLEASE tell me this was taken out of context!

Afraid not. It was her big "Gotcha!" question.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-19   12:01:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike (#9)

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-19   12:18:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: no gnu taxes (#7)

Republican Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell of Delaware is questioning whether the U.S. Constitution prohibits the government from establishing religion.

Dumbass author.

She never questioned that.

That's not the same thing as claiming there is no separation of church and State in the constitution.

Close enough. ;}

Like the 60 minutes piece on Israel. They just don't stop. And are looking for ANY way to get in.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-19   12:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

Both the left and right are completely out to lunch on this.

The framers in general were deeply religious men who believed that divine providence guided their efforts and that American was destined to be a beacon of light to the world.

The framers were also deeply suspicious of government sanctioned regions like the Church of England.

The framers were right. America is one of the most religious countries on earth precisely because we don't have a state sanctioned religion. Look what has happened in Europe, where many countries have official churches. Religious belief and active participation is well below ours in almost every country (Ireland and Italy may be exceptions).

I've never been a regular church goer, but I have attended Baptist (in elementary school), Lutheran (in junior high school), Pentecostal (in the Air Force), Greek Orthodox (first wife), and Catholic (second wife) churches. I have relatives who go to non-denominational protestant churches and other relatives who are Jehovah's Witnesses. I have friends who are Mormon, Atheist, Agnostic, Hindu, and Jewish.

The only group that really seems to be a threat to the American way are the militant atheists who feel they need to force their beliefs on others by coercing government to bash religion, and especially Christianity, at every opportunity.

Unfortunately, some evangelical Christians respond to the militants in the wrong way. Like everything else, the fight becomes who can control government to force their beliefs on the rest of us -- militant atheists versus bible thumpers. The real fight has to be between anyone who wants the government involved in promoting or bashing versus those of us who want the government to keep their nose out of our business.


If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-19   12:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: jwpegler (#15)

The only group that really seems to be a threat to the American way are the militant atheists who feel they need to force their beliefs on others by coercing government to bash religion, and especially Christianity, at every opportunity.

I disagree. Partly because the militant atheists are such a small minority they will never get anybody to pay much attention to them.

Mostly I disagree because the Muslims OWN that territory. They are a bigger threat than we have ever faced.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-19   13:06:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Badeye, All (#1)

Pssst. She's right. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say a thing about 'seperation of church and state'.

Relax, Christine O'Donnell! Nobody knows the First Amendment.

By Alexandra Petri | October 19, 2010

"Where in the Constitution is the separation of church and state?" -- Delaware Republican Senate candidate Christine O'Donnell's question during a debate with Democratic challenger Chris Coons.

Christine O'Donnell doesn't know that the Constitution guarantees the separation of church and state.

Who does? Christine explicitly said she didn't bring her Constitution with her! That ought to be enough.

Why taunt her? Instead of pretending we know what the Constitution says and are indignant that she doesn't, let's fess up.

I studied history for years, so I know that our nation was founded by Sacagawea. Also, Columbus Day is a holiday where we celebrate that city that isn't Dayton, because it doesn't get enough love!

When it comes to the Constitution, I know that if someone ever approaches me and suggests that I'm a "loose constructionist," I'm supposed to throw my drink in his face and say "Maybe your mother was, but I'm not that kind of girl!" Sometimes, it makes sense!

And when it comes to knowing my amendments? On Law and Order, people always say "I'm pleading the fifth," so I bet the Fifth Amendment is the amendment where Mariska Hargitay looks steely and thinks about alcoholism.

There's some amendment that has to do with cruel and unusual punishment, probably saying something along the lines of "absolutely fine, as long as you feel somewhat convinced he's a terrorist." I bet that's the one they used to open Guantanamo!

I don't know what the Nineteenth Amendment is, but I have a bad feeling about it.

If I ever become a lawyer, I plan to tell my clients to "use the Fourth" a lot, then laugh mysteriously.

I went to a bar once called the Twenty First amendment, so I am fairly convinced that the Twenty First Amendment had something to do with bars. Or maybe that was the Eleventh Amendment. I don't remember that evening very well. Maybe Christine O'Donnell's been there.

And maybe it's not just me. A survey on the First Amendment conducted throughout high schools found that students don't know the rights the First Amendment guarantees -- and when it was explained to them, more than one in three felt it went too far.

So instead of jumping on Christine, maybe we should take a look at ourselves.

Like she says, "I'm you."

voices.washingtonpost.com...stine_odonnell_nobod.html

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-19   13:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mcgowanjm (#3)

That's just insane.

Weren't you the poster who claimed millions would be evacuated from the states bordering the Gulf of Mexico?

That was truly insane, mcclown!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   13:41:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom (#17)

Pssst. She's right. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say a thing about 'seperation of church and state'.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   13:48:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ibluafartsky (#18)

Weren't you the poster who claimed millions would be evacuated from the states bordering the Gulf of Mexico?

He's off his meds again...

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   13:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Badeye (#19)

She is you!

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-19   13:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lucysmom (#21)

She is you!

Maybe...but you still remain goofy either way.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   14:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#16) (Edited)

Mostly I disagree because the Muslims OWN that territory. They are a bigger threat than we have ever faced.

Two points:

A.) Sure, extremist Muslims are a threat to the entire world from the Middle East to Southern Russia to Western China to the Philippines, but not so much domestically. Right now, our domestic threats come from Muslims outside the country, not Muslims who are U.S. citizens.

B.) Yes, if Muslims in general ever become a significant portion of our population, their basic belief system would indeed be a threat to the classical liberal beliefs enshrined in the Constitution. Is that likely to occur? Probably not.

In my view, the U.S. Congress and the Obama Administration are the biggest the biggest threats to the country, with their Marxist professors and "structural feminist" bullshit. All of who comprise the radical atheists that I spoke of.


If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-19   17:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Badeye (#1)

Pssst. She's right.

Huh?

here's what she said:

When Coons responded that the First Amendment bars Congress from making laws respecting the establishment of religion, O'Donnell asked: "You're telling me that's in the First Amendment?"

I think this one is pretty clear;

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-19   17:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#17)

There's some amendment that has to do with cruel and unusual punishment, probably saying something along the lines of "absolutely fine, as long as you feel somewhat convinced he's a terrorist." I bet that's the one they used to open Guantanamo!

Not true. The Bill of Rights ONLY applies to people who are on American soil.

Actually,it doesn't even apply to active duty members of the US military. They are governed by the Universal Code of Military Justice,and the Bill of Rights does NOT apply to them.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-19   18:49:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: jwpegler (#23)

Right now, our domestic threats come from Muslims outside the country, not Muslims who are U.S. citizens.

True so far,but we keep allowing fundie Muslims to immigrate to the US as political refugees,and that spells nothing but trouble for us in the future.

As for acting president Soetoro,he is no bigger threat than Clinton or either Bush was. Probably even less of a threat because he is so totally arrogant and incompetent.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-19   18:53:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete, jwpegler (#26)

Right now, our domestic threats come from Muslims outside the country, not Muslims who are U.S. citizens.

True so far

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, U.S. Army.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   19:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ferret Mike (#9)

"Lack of sex has rotted her brain." Or lack of brain has rotted her sexual equipment.

Looks like you've taken the low path ala jerx, whiningskank or skid mark rather than discussing the factoid you probably didn't know.

Is it the loss of quidance from dwarf's statist directives or the pending Nov bitch slapping that's changing your path Mike?

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. No more need for famous Dwarfisms due to his journey to the land of irrelevance:):)....until his banning I'll leave the Jerxism up... To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall .....:):)

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-10-20   0:20:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: e_type_jag, Corn Flake Girl (#28)

Corn Flake Girl likes being a bitch.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-20   0:22:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: e_type_jag, Corn Flake Girl (#28)

Go find your own Code Pink-where's-my-check-fag to kick around .

This one's mine!

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-20   0:26:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#25) (Edited)

The Bill of Rights ONLY applies to people who are on American soil.

A US military base isn't considered US soil? Well then, whose soil is it... Fidel's? Well then, that's mighty convenient. Randomly capture people on foreign soil, send them to Cuba, and then proudly declare that due process doesn't apply to them. You betcha!

meguro  posted on  2010-10-20   1:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: e_type_jag (#28)

And that in English means...?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-20   1:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: WhiteSands (#30)

You need to find a boy friend Sand. I am not gay, and most certainly not your type.

Dumbshit.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-20   1:34:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ferret Mike, NikeBitchGirl (#32)

it means your Ativan is wearing off.

Your seeing the aliens again.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-20   1:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: WhiteSands (#34)

I have no idea what your drug is, but you are talking in loops, and I am tired of it. To the bozo you go.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-20   1:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Ferret Mike (#33)

You need to find a boy friend Sand.

Homophobic hypocrite.

Nike Guard really kicked your weak ass out of the tree.

It's indicative of how weak all your stances are.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-20   1:36:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: meguro (#31)

A US military base isn't considered US soil? Well then, whose soil is it... Fidel's? Well then, that's mighty convenient. Randomly capture people on foreign soil, send them to Cuba, and then proudly declare that due process doesn't apply to them. You betcha!

Clearly, you never served in the military.

If you did, you'd KNOW better.

Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2010-10-20   2:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Capitalist Eric (#37) (Edited)

Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested

So why did you reply in the first place, jackass? I didn't ping you on my post. I couldn't give a shit about you.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-20   2:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: meguro (#31)

A US military base isn't considered US soil?

I know this is a complex matter for you to work your way through,but it's only on US soil if it is IN the US.

Well then, whose soil is it... Fidel's?

Yes. I hate to disappoint you,but the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base is NOT a US state. It is leased land belonging to Cuba.

Well then, that's mighty convenient.

Duhhhhh! Think of that all by yourself,Captain Obvious?

Randomly capture people on foreign soil,

Yeah,the poor downtrodden fundie Muslim masses,caught setting bombs or carrying arms against US troops. Duh poor bayb-bees!

send them to Cuba, and then proudly declare that due process doesn't apply to them.

It doesn't,numbnuts.

You betcha!

We already knew you are a Dim. Now you provide proof of your qualifications.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   7:48:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: meguro, Capitalist Eric (#38)

Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested

So why did you reply in the first place, jackass? I didn't ping you on my post. I couldn't give a shit about you.

You also post as calcon?

Is that the name of one of the voices in your head?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   7:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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