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Title: Afghanistan's dirty little secret
Source: sfgate.com
URL Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic ... /c/a/2010/08/28/INF21F2Q9H.DTL
Published: Sep 6, 2010
Author: Joel Brinkley
Post Date: 2010-09-06 19:47:19 by Mad Dog
Keywords: None
Views: 64500
Comments: 73

Western forces fighting in southern Afghanistan had a problem. Too often, soldiers on patrol passed an older man walking hand-in-hand with a pretty young boy. Their behavior suggested he was not the boy's father. Then, British soldiers found that young Afghan men were actually trying to "touch and fondle them," military investigator AnnaMaria Cardinalli told me. "The soldiers didn't understand."

All of this was so disconcerting that the Defense Department hired Cardinalli, a social scientist, to examine this mystery. Her report, "Pashtun Sexuality," startled not even one Afghan. But Western forces were shocked - and repulsed.

For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers. Some research suggests that half the Pashtun tribal members in Kandahar and other southern towns are bacha baz, the term for an older man with a boy lover. Literally it means "boy player." The men like to boast about it.

"Having a boy has become a custom for us," Enayatullah, a 42-year-old in Baghlan province, told a Reuters reporter. "Whoever wants to show off should have a boy."

Baghlan province is in the northeast, but Afghans say pedophilia is most prevalent among Pashtun men in the south. The Pashtun are Afghanistan's most important tribe. For centuries, the nation's leaders have been Pashtun.

President Hamid Karzai is Pashtun, from a village near Kandahar, and he has six brothers. So the natural question arises: Has anyone in the Karzai family been bacha baz? Two Afghans with close connections to the Karzai family told me they know that at least one family member and perhaps two were bacha baz. Afraid of retribution, both declined to be identified and would not be more specific for publication.

As for Karzai, an American who worked in and around his palace in an official capacity for many months told me that homosexual behavior "was rampant" among "soldiers and guys on the security detail. They talked about boys all the time."

He added, "I didn't see Karzai with anyone. He was in his palace most of the time." He, too, declined to be identified.

In Kandahar, population about 500,000, and other towns, dance parties are a popular, often weekly, pastime. Young boys dress up as girls, wearing makeup and bells on their feet, and dance for a dozen or more leering middle-aged men who throw money at them and then take them home. A recent State Department report called "dancing boys" a "widespread, culturally sanctioned form of male rape."

So, why are American and NATO forces fighting and dying to defend tens of thousands of proud pedophiles, certainly more per capita than any other place on Earth? And how did Afghanistan become the pedophilia capital of Asia?

Sociologists and anthropologists say the problem results from perverse interpretation of Islamic law. Women are simply unapproachable. Afghan men cannot talk to an unrelated woman until after proposing marriage. Before then, they can't even look at a woman, except perhaps her feet. Otherwise she is covered, head to ankle.

"How can you fall in love if you can't see her face," 29-year-old Mohammed Daud told reporters. "We can see the boys, so we can tell which are beautiful."

Even after marriage, many men keep their boys, suggesting a loveless life at home. A favored Afghan expression goes: "Women are for children, boys are for pleasure." Fundamentalist imams, exaggerating a biblical passage on menstruation, teach that women are "unclean" and therefore distasteful. One married man even asked Cardinalli's team "how his wife could become pregnant," her report said. When that was explained, he "reacted with disgust" and asked, "How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean?"

That helps explain why women are hidden away - and stoned to death if they are perceived to have misbehaved. Islamic law also forbids homosexuality. But the pedophiles explain that away. It's not homosexuality, they aver, because they aren't in love with their boys.

Addressing the loathsome mistreatment of Afghan women remains a primary goal for coalition governments, as it should be.

But what about the boys, thousands upon thousands of little boys who are victims of serial rape over many years, destroying their lives - and Afghan society.

"There's no issue more horrifying and more deserving of our attention than this," Cardinalli said. "I'm continually haunted by what I saw."

As one boy, in tow of a man he called "my lord," told the Reuters reporter: "Once I grow up, I will be an owner, and I will have my own boys."

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#1. To: All (#0)

So.....

NOW we know why so many of you libTURD filth so LUV islam eh "boys"?

So NOW TRY to tell me that this isn't islamist SOP and REAL.

So NOW TRY to change the subject you disgusting libTURD filth.

islam is filth.

F islam.

We're fixing to have a bonfire 11 September!

Bring your korans.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-09-06   19:51:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Mad Dog (#1)

Your Mama lets the likes of you play with matches?

I'm betting there will be a backlash from this childishness that will result in the deaths of U.S. servicemen.

I guess endangering troops is OK as long as Conserva Nutzies like you do it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-06   19:55:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

YAWN ... ..

I see your lips flapping LIAR but I don't hear a single word that you are saying LIAR.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-09-06   19:57:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Mad Dog (#3)

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Burn the bible !

Complete with heavy metal music.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-06   20:03:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-06   20:18:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#11)

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So NOW TRY to change the subject you disgusting libTURD filth.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-09-06   20:20:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Mad Dog (#14)

Who wans to change the subject? My point is not that flag or Bible burning is good; it's not.

My point is that one group doing something like that only doing it to Korans looks just as dumb as people burning American Flags or Bibles.

You are just too thick to make the connection.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-06   20:23:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Ferret Mike (#17)

LOL!

So NOW libTURD weasel " girl"/"boy" TRY to change the subject you disgusting libTURD filth.

I guess that YOU are way to dim to see how I bitch slapped you in EVERY post on this thread eh libTURD "girl"/"boy"?

You F ing libTURDS aren't really all that bright are you?

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not to mention predictable.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-09-06   20:31:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Mad Dog (#22)

Nobody is changing the topic, and it is predictable you don't have the brain power to see that.

My point exactly is that you , Stone and others will react with outrage and anger when it's your icons being violated.

My point is giving you some empathy as to how the emotions of Muslims is exactly the same as yours' over a Bible or American Flag burning.

The only thing I worry about is the men and women of the U.S. Armed forces in harm's way in Afghanistan.

If any of them suffer or die because of the emotional backlash over this - which is similar to the feeling of a revengeful Stone giving me a posting of a video on burning witches - blood will be on your hands as well as on the hands of those directly doing the violence.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-06   20:41:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Ferret Mike, Mad Dog (#25)

My point is giving you some empathy as to how the emotions of Muslims is exactly the same as yours' over a Bible or American Flag burning.

Sorry Mike. You've stepped in it already. Man-Boy Advocate.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-06   21:11:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#59. To: Liberator (#43)

Actually Libe, I had several windows open including other forums. I actually did not see the topic of this header until I got home and unhibernated the lappie and reviewed the thread.

That was my error. IT would of helped instead of screeching at me as M. Doggie Dogg did, if someone had, "err, Ferret, have you read the header man? You're confusing me."

I was puzzled what the heck M. Doggie Dogg was screeching about with the boys comment, but oh well. C'est la guerre.

When MD posted, I was gathering my stuff, talking to a friend at the coffee shop who's wifi I was using, and got the topic of the thread completely wrong.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-06 23:09:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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