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Title: Fall In Support For Afghan War Worrisome: Jones
Source: Agence France-Presse
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/stories/Fal ... worrisome:-Jones_20100813.html
Published: Aug 13, 2010
Author: Agence France-Presse
Post Date: 2010-08-13 10:59:44 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 15040
Comments: 11

President Barack Obama's national security advisor has voiced concern about Americans growing weary of the war in Afghanistan, despite what he called apparent "elements of success."

Asked in an interview whether US engagement in Afghanistan risked the same loss of support that undermined the war in Vietnam, James Jones replied that such a prospect was "very worrisome."

"The biggest fear would be that we might get to a point where we decide that we can't turn this violence around," the retired US Marine Corps general told CNN on Thursday, adding that he doubted that would happen.

A USA Today/Gallup opinion poll released earlier this month indicated that 60 percent of Americans thought the situation for the United States in Afghanistan was "very or moderately bad."

Public support for Obama's management of the conflict meanwhile fell to 36 percent, from 48 percent in February.

On the progress of the war in Afghanistan, Jones said: "The elements of success are all present, and they are visible. We know what they are. We are working very hard with both sides, on both sides of the (Afghan-Pakistan) border."

"Specifically in Pakistan, we need to see more activity on the part of the Pakistani army to go after the insurgents in the safe havens that allow the transit between Afghanistan and Pakistan to go on," he added.

"This is fundamentally important."

Jones acknowledged that parts of the Pakistan military "have played both sides in years past, because of their uncertainty with regard to our long-term stay and long-term commitment."

"Hopefully," he said, those elements will become "increasingly part of the solution."

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#1. To: Fred Mertz, Brian S (#0)

Title: Fall In Support For Afghan War Worrisome: Jones Source: Agence France-Presse URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/stories/Fal ... worrisome:-Jones_20100813.html Published: Aug 13, 2010 Author: Agence France-Presse Post Date: 2010-08-13 10:59:44 by Brian S Keywords: None Views: 2

President Barack Obama's national security advisor has voiced concern about Americans growing weary of the war in Afghanistan, despite what he called apparent "elements of success."

We ARE the problem:

Anand Gopal, Afghanistan correspondent for the Wall Street Journal, says "The situation for women in the Pashtun area is actually worse than it was during the Taliban time. ...(U)nder the Taliban, women were kept in burqas and in their homes, away from education. Today, the same situation persists. They’re kept in burqas, in homes, away from education, but on top of that they are also living in a war zone."

Shaffer then points us to a remarkable article by Mohammad Qayoumi in Foreign Policy earlier this year: a photo essay on what Afghanistan looked like 50 years ago:

The photos were taken from an old book published by Afghanistan’s planning ministry in the 1950s and 60s, and were accompanied by Qayoumi’s commentary recalling the Afghanistan he had known as a young man. The images depict men and women in western dress going about their daily lives in what appears to be a fairly well-developed, functioning society. Qayoumi recounts:

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-08-13   11:14:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

Shaffer then points us to a remarkable article by Mohammad Qayoumi in Foreign Policy earlier this year: a photo essay on what Afghanistan looked like 50 years ago:

I might stop by the library to find it and take a look at it.

"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Jethro Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-13   11:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

maybe Biden was right?


Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality

go65  posted on  2010-08-13   11:21:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

I might stop by the library to find it and take a look at it.

;}

Remembering that 50 years ago was the Apex of US power.

Viet Nam was on the Drawing Board, but JFK was still alive.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-08-13   11:22:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mcgowanjm (#4)

Probably closer to 60...but given that war after WWII were totally unlike WWII or WWI, it's not surprising.

war  posted on  2010-08-13   11:28:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

I might stop by the library to find it and take a look at it.

Showed lots of women in short dresses in public drinking cocktails IIRC.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-13   11:38:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mininggold, mcgowanjm (#6)

I found an online link:

www.foreignpolicy.com/art..._in_afghanistan?page=full

Dang dial-up is still loading it.

"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Jethro Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-13   11:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#5)

I base it on 1960 being the PO of US domestic discovery.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-08-13   12:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#8)

One-fifth of Pakistan is under water Obama admin triples number of helicopters sent for flood relief August 13, 2010

Think Progress updates the Pakistan/climate/security story.

Denizens of Washington DC are reeling from a catastrophic storm that knocked out power for 100,000, toppled trees, and flooded streets. Much of the Gulf Coast is under flood warnings, and the central United States is sweltering under 110-degree heat, following an early summer of record heat and rainfall across much of the United States. Severe weather fueled by global warming pollution is having an even more devastating impact around the world:

I wonder if we're putting hellfire missiles aboard so we can shoot some Taliban afterwards. a twofer. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-08-13   12:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9) (Edited)

I don't know if we have 7 chinooks in afghanistan.

And Karachi's oh about 1200 miles from The NW Territories.

This is further compounded by the fact that the U.S. had been unable to spare many Chinook transport helicopters to assist the effort due to their use for the war in Afghanistan. Late Wednesday, the Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced that he will be tripling the number of Chinooks it will be sending to Pakistan, citing the dangers in allowing extremists the “opportunity” to take over the disaster response:

The United States announced on Wednesday more helicopters and aid to beef up relief efforts in Pakistan, which is grappling with its worst floods in 80 years. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the U.S. military was tripling the number of helicopters in Pakistan from six to 19 and was sending in a landing platform to be used off the coast of Karachi, Pakistan’s biggest city.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-08-13   12:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

Oh and one more btw-

This is what Global Climate Change looks like.

Get ready for more.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-08-13   13:00:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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