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Obama Wars Title: Report: Journalists Debated Whether Government Should Shut Down Fox News Report: Journalists Debated Whether Government Should Shut Down Fox News Published July 21, 2010
A group of liberal journalists used a now-defunct listserv to debate the merits of whether the federal government should forcibly shut down Fox News, according to a report in The Daily Caller. The online publication earlier reported that the journalists in the private group discussed ways to shield Barack Obama from the Rev. Jeremiah Wright scandal when Obama was a presidential candidate. The latest article showed that several members of Journolist aired complaints about Fox News on the listserv in March of this year and debated how best to rein it in. Guardian columnist Daniel Davies, who said he was "genuinely scared" of the network, reportedly said "peer pressure" and "self-regulation" were not working. "In order to have even a semblance of control, you need a tough legal framework," he said. According to the report, UCLA law professor Jonathan Zasloff urged the federal government to stop the network. "I hate to open this can of worms, but is there any reason why the FCC couldn't simply pull their broadcasting permit once it expires?" he wrote. Time's Michael Scherer said Fox News used criticism only to build "tribal identity," but questioned whether the White House should be distinguishing between media organizations like that. But Zasloff went further, suggesting it was acceptable for the White House to pick and choose which reporters get press passes -- a concept Scherer again questioned. According to the report, the New Republic's John Judis said Scherer's skepticism would make sense "pre-fox." "Now it is only tactical," he wrote. Tucker Carlson, a Fox News contributor who started the online Daily Caller, said Wednesday that the listserv commentary as a whole proves the press took sides in the presidential election. "It's an appalling story. It's something that a lot of us suspected was going on. This verifies, in fact, it was going on," he told Fox News. In 2008, journalists working for Time, Politico, the Huffington Post, the Baltimore Sun, the Guardian, Salon and the New Republic expressed outrage on the listserv over the tough questioning Obama received from ABC anchors Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos at a debate. Some of them plotted to protect Obama from the swirling Wright controversy, according to the Daily Caller. Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent pressed his fellow journalists to deflect attention from Obama's relationship with Wright by shifting topics to one of Obama's conservative critics, the Daily Caller reported. "Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares - and call them racists," Ackerman wrote. Michael Tomasky, a writer for the Guardian, urged his fellow members of Journolist to do "what we can to kill ABC and this idiocy in whatever venues we have." "This isn't about defending Obama," he wrote. "This is about how the (mainstream media) kills any chance of discourse that actually serves the people." Journolist was shut down last month after leaks exposing member Dave Weigel's scornful remarks of conservatives led to his resignation at the Washington Post as a blogger covering the conservative movement. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Also found is a NPR producer wishing Limbaugh would die, and if he was having a heart attack in front of her she not only wouldn't do anything to help, she wouldn't call 911. The Bush Era and so far the Owe-bama Era have shown one thing conclusively. The Mainstream Media is highly biased in favor of leftwing politics. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #2. To: Badeye (#1) The Mainstream Media is highly biased in favor of leftwing politics. I've known that for at least 50 years. I don't know if Joe and Jane Sixpack know, or - if they do - if they care. ----------------------------------------------------------- Meet the new boss (Lindsey Graham) - same as the old boss (Zerobama) #3. To: Ignore Amos (#2) I'm not sure whats more facinating about this. The mainstream media's silence, or our resident Leftwingnuts silence. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #4. To: Badeye (#0) The Internet and Fox News are the greatest threats to liberals. Liberals can't compete in any arena. They need public assistance in all areas of their lives. Logic wins over emo every time. -----------------------------------------------------------
#5. To: WhiteSands (#4) The Internet and Fox News are the greatest threats to liberals. Yep, which is why this administration and this congress have proposed taking control of both. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #6. To: WhiteSands (#4) Fox News is not a credible source.
#7. To: Skip Intro (#6) Fox News is not a credible source. Says who? You?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #8. To: Ignore Amos (#7) Yeah, I said that. Congratulations for getting it the first time.
#9. To: Skip Intro (#8) Yeah, I said that. Well, if there was ever any doubt that you're a shill . . . you've just erased it. Congrats on that. BTW - what IS a credible news source. CBS? NY Times? The Nation? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #10. To: Ignore Amos (#9) (Edited) Well, if there was ever any doubt that you're a shill I'm not a shill. I have opinions, just like you. Fox ran with the faked Shirley Sherrod video. They have no credibility. The next time another source fakes a story, I'll say the same about them.
#11. To: Skip Intro (#10) Fox ran with the faked Shirley Sherrod video. They have no credibility. By your standards, then, neither does the Washington Post. (Reporter who faked a story for a Pulitzer prize.) Nor NBC (Dateline rigging pickup trucks to blow up) Nor CBS (Dan Rather) Pretty tough task-master, you . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #12. To: Ignore Amos (#11) With the exception of the WP, who fired the reporter after finding out she faked the story, you're right. They've had to try to earn their way back. CBS got rid of Rather, and I don't recall what, if anything, happened at NBC. Fox News shows no inclination to do that, and the scummiest one of all, Andrew Breitbart is now claiming, with no evidence whatsoever, that the farmer's wife in this story really isn't the farmer's wife. How low can can a person go?
#13. To: Skip Intro (#12) Fox News shows no inclination to do that Not to defend Fox (they are perfectly capable to defend themselves), but perhaps you should wait and see how things play out. Perhaps that is what they are doing. After all, much of the confusion about the Sherrod case came about because of a rush to judgment. The WH rushed to judgment ("You're about to be all over Glenn Beck") - when Beck had not even commented on the story) The NAACP rushed to judgment. The Dept. of Ag. rushed to judgment. Now they've had to back-peddle. Don't you think it might be a good idea for everyone to chill? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #14. To: Ignore Amos (#7) Fox News merely aired the story. The Odinga administration and the NAACP "ran" with it. -----------------------------------------------------------
#15. To: Ignore Amos (#9) (Edited) http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/07/usda_worker_quits_over_racism.html
Washington Post ran the story too As did CNN http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/19/agriculture.employee.naacp/ -----------------------------------------------------------
#16. To: WhiteSands (#15) Washington Post ran the story too Evidently Fox News is running with the appropriate crowd. "See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005) #17. To: Badeye (#0) Journalists No, these are NOT journalists. Journalists don't advocate restricting free speech. They are totalitarian sympathizers and operatives.
#18. To: Badeye, Ignore Amos (#3) I'm not sure whats more facinating about this. The mainstream media's silence, or our resident Leftwingnuts silence. Liberals are supporters and enforcers of censorship. Post an opposing view on almost any liberal forum and see how long you last. I can provide names of some of those from which I have been banned.
#19. To: Badeye (#0) Report: There, fixed it.
#20. To: Coral Snake (#19) I haven't seen Tubby lately, have you?
#21. To: Ibluafartsky, Badeye (#18) Liberals are supporters and enforcers of censorship. Ironic, isn't it? That's why I prefer the term "statist" instead. Today's "liberals" have more in common with V.I. Lenin than with T. Jefferson. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #22. To: Ignore Amos (#21) Yep. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #23. To: Ignore Amos (#13) Don't you think it might be a good idea for everyone to chill? I'm positively frosty. Let me know who Fox News cans over this, and also when Andrew Breitbart fires himself.
#24. To: Skip Intro (#23) Andrew Breitbart Breitbart's credibilty took a major hit, no doubt. We'll never know for sure whether he was set up (the tape in question was OWNED by the NAACP, they should have known what was on it); or if he was deliberately malicious in his intent. The first is sloppy; the second is almost criminal. Either way, it's bad. Fox News? They're guilty of "rushing to judgment". You wanna fire someone there - okay. Then for the crime of "rushing to judgment", you'll also need to fire someone at the WH and the NAACP. For the life of me, I don't know why you statists have such a hardon for Fox. If they're as bad as you say, your stellar arguments SHOULD show them for what they are. The truth is your friend, right? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #25. To: Ignore Amos (#24) They're guilty of "rushing to judgment". No, they're guilty of character assassination. Shep Smith said he didn't run it because it couldn't be verified. That's the way a news organization is supposed to work. That Obama went along with it without checking is to his disgrace.
#26. To: Skip Intro (#25) No, they're guilty of character assassination. Shep Smith said he didn't run it because it couldn't be verified. That's the way a news organization is supposed to work. Well there you go. Shep Smith hosts Fox's newscast. Hannity and O'Reilly are opinion shows. You have every right to call it character assassination if you want. But if you're going to be consistent, then criticize NBC owned stooges Rachel Maddow and Keith Olberman for the character assassinations THEY engage in. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #27. To: Ignore Amos (#26) But if you're going to be consistent, then criticize NBC owned stooges Rachel Maddow and Keith Olberman for the character If I watched their shows, and they ran bogus stories that got a person fired, I would.
#28. To: Skip Intro (#27) bogus stories that got a person fired You need to get your timeline straight. She was fired (ah, asked to resign) BEFORE anyone at Fox aired it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #29. To: Ignore Amos (#26) (Edited) Well there you go. Shep Smith hosts Fox's newscast. And here I thought the name of the channel was Fox News. CBS, ABC, and NBC all run news shows but they don't call their channels XXX News.
#30. To: Ignore Amos (#28) bogus stories that got a person fired You need to get your timeline straight. There you go again, inserting facts where none are desired....(chuckle) Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest |
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