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The Water Cooler Title: Gingrich To Test 2012 Waters In S.C. The 2012 presidential race is under way in South Carolina. Former U.S. Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich visits Columbia and Charleston today for a pair of fundraisers — his second visit to the state since the spring. Other potential Republican presidential contenders have also made S.C. visits recently including Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, former Alaska governor and 2008 vice president pick Sarah Palin, former Massachusetts governor and 2008 presidential contender Mitt Romney and former Pennsylvania U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum. South Carolina represents some of the most fertile GOP ground in the nation because of its Republican-leaning voters and its early presidential primary, critical to selecting the Republican candidate who will take on Democratic President Barack Obama in 2012. "Every potential Republican presidential candidate knows the importance of South Carolina," said Larry Sabato, a University of Virginia political scientist. "It's one of the earliest states to vote. And, for Republicans, South Carolina is the gateway to the South. The South has to remain solid for a Republican candidate to have a chance of winning the White House. Expect to see all of (the Republican presidential hopefuls) appear in South Carolina." A May poll conducted by Public Policy Polling of likely S.C. voters showed Gingrich as the early presidential favorite, garnering 25 percent of the vote, followed closely by Romney and Palin. Former Arkansas governor and 2008 presidential candidate Mike Huckabee held 19 percent while U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, also a 2008 presidential contender, came in last with 7 percent. Huckabee also has stopped in South Carolina this year, stumping for Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer in his gubernatorial bid days before the June primary. Short stops have also been made in 2010 by U.S. Rep. Mike Pence of Indiana and former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson, a long shot presidential hopeful. Joel Sawyer, executive director of the S.C. GOP, said the state's national influence is expanding as it morphs into a political bellwether for a new, conservative movement. "The country is moving to the right," Sawyer said. "There's an ideological rebellion on what people see going on in Washington. So many of the people who have been leading that charge are from South Carolina — Jim DeMint, Joe Wilson. And Nikki Haley is now getting attention for those same ideas." Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Nothing contained in the article supports the title. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #2. To: Brian S (#0) Are we to believe the blackmail information the DNC had on him or a close family member has expired,and he is now free to act as he wishes? If not,why bother? "I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114) #3. To: Badeye (#1) Nothing contained in the article supports the title. You evidently didn't read it then. Or maybe connecting the dots is not in your job description. "See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005) #4. To: Brian S (#0) Newt's going to have a hard time living THIS down. If I could, I would. #5. To: mininggold (#3) Funny how BE never complains about the made up titles by no gnu taxes but whines about the real ones. "The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh #6. To: Skip Intro (#5) Funny how BE never complains about the made up titles by no gnu taxes but whines about the real ones. His agenda and bias are pretty clear.
The article discusses political fund rising, campaign strategies and early presidential candidate polls numbers. Nope, it must be about zebra mating habits in Africa. "See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005) #7. To: Brian S (#0) Please Snewt run...
#8. To: mininggold (#3)
Please cut and paste where Gingrich says he's entering the SC Primary. The whole forum wants to see it, I'm sure. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #9. To: Skip Intro (#5) Funny how BE never complains about the made up titles by no gnu taxes but whines about the real ones. Wrong again, skippy. Funny how you miss so much...and then brag about it. I've expressed my concerns about ngt's titles to both Stone and ngt. Ask them. Or, continue to look ridiculous and uninformed..I do enjoy it. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #10. To: mininggold (#6) The article discusses political fund rising, campaign strategies and early presidential candidate polls numbers. Nope, it must be about zebra mating habits in Africa. And not one comment from Gingrich saying he's entering the SC primary. Anywhere. The fact SC has a very important election cycle this fall escaped you. Thats the reason he's there NOW. If this was written 12 months from now...then the title MIGHT be warranted. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #11. To: Badeye (#10) And not one comment from Gingrich saying he's entering the SC primary. Testing the waters would be a good term, but I guess he's got you fooled. Words mean more than actions. That must be how Obama got elected..... by stealth. "See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005) #12. To: Badeye (#9)
The database doesn't lie. But now you'll say because he's your favorite you do it by email, to prevent the embarrassment of being publicly chastised by Badeye. LOLOL "See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005) #13. To: mininggold (#11) Testing the waters? Definitely. First line of the article: "Former U.S. Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich visits Columbia and Charleston today for a pair of fundraisers..." Why is he meeting with donors?
#14. To: war (#13) To: mininggold Testing the waters? Definitely. For a potential shake down. "See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005) #15. To: mininggold (#14) (Edited) I said back in 2006 that Newt doesn't do well when he has nothing to oppose or run against and that if a dem got in in 2008 that he would take a shot @ 2012 to not risk losing in 2008. I also said that the 2012 candidate would be someone unknown in 2006. It will be an interesting primary season to see if the Nasty Newt turns up against Huckster, Hairdo and Little Miss Big Tits.
#16. To: mininggold (#12) No dumbass, its actually in the database HERE. Ask either one of them. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #17. To: mininggold (#11) Whatever kookie. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #18. To: Brian S (#0) Gingrich To Test 2012 Waters In S.C. Kill it, before it multiplies!
#19. To: war (#15) It will be an interesting primary season to see if the Nasty Newt turns up against Huckster, Hairdo and Little Miss Big Tits. With so many of them pandering to the "values" voters in the primaries, they will be hard pressed to win the center in a general election.
#20. To: Bartcoprules (#19) Exactly...they'll all be going after the 20% of the 32%.
#21. To: Badeye (#1) Nothing contained in the article supports the title. Not to your tin ear. No surprise there. (laughing)
#22. To: Fred Mertz (#21) Nothing contained in the article supports the title. Why do you continue to post on this racist site, Fred? Are you a racist? If I could, I would. #23. To: Fred Mertz (#21) Freddie, you never actually contribute anything in any forum you belong to. Except one line personal attacks. Whats wrong, goverment check blown on your gambling addiction for the month? Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #24. To: Badeye (#23) Change your screen name to BadTinEar.
#25. To: Fred Mertz (#24) Freddie, you never actually contribute anything in any forum you belong to. Except one line personal attacks. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #26. To: Ignore Amos (#22) He's not a racist, he's just vapid. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #27. To: Ignore Amos (#22) (Edited) What was your screen name there? Ziggens?
#28. To: w.a.r. (#27) What was your screen name there? Nope. It was Barack H W Bush. Why do you ask? And I thought you had me on bozo? If I could, I would. #29. To: Ignore Amos (#28) (Edited) And I thought you had me on bozo? I took you and Whiney off this week or over the weekend - who the fuck can remember - but I had yet to respond to you. Why'd you get banned? Barack H W Bush Interesting. we actually had an interesting exchange or two prior to you turning "punk".
#30. To: war (#29) prior to you turning "punk". Uh oh. I've been outed If I could, I would. #31. To: Ignore Amos (#30) Actually, my Into All Music Musician Son pointed that out to me Monday or Tuesday night - who in the hell can ever remember?
#32. To: Ignore Amos (#30) lmao. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #33. To: Brian S (#0) I know that most of you don't like Gingrich, but here is one fact: Gingrich is the only Washington political leader in my lifetime who actually reduced federal government spending. When Gingrich became speaker, federal spending was 22.4% of GDP. When he left, it was 18.4% of GDP. It was a magnificent accomplishment. Yes, Clinton deserves some credit too. After two failed years in office, he decided to go along with Gingrich in removing welfare from entitlement status, cutting capital gains, and much more. What happened after Gingrich left office? George Bush and his big government GOP Congress escalated spending faster than any President since LBJ. Obama has made it worse. If Gingrich runs I will support him because he the only political leader in my life time that has actually managed to rein in government spending.
#34. To: jwpegler (#33) When Gingrich became speaker, federal spending was 22.4% of GDP. When he left, it was 18.4% of GDP. It was a magnificent accomplishment. A) Peace Dividend B) Clinton beat Gingrich at every turn after the 1994 election. Clinton was even able to portray Gingrich as a profligate spender.
#35. To: war (#34) Also, when Clinton won the shutdown battle of 1995, it all but ensured his victory in 1996.
#36. To: Bartcoprules (#35) Yep...the infamous "AF1" snub gaffe...
#37. To: jwpegler (#33) While what you say is true...I don't know if I can support him for President. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. #38. To: jwpegler (#33) I know that most of you don't like Gingrich, but here is one fact: Gingrich is the only Washington political leader in my lifetime who actually reduced federal government spending. When Gingrich became speaker, federal spending was 22.4% of GDP. When he left, it was 18.4% of GDP. It was a magnificent accomplishment. Reduction in percentages especially in a vastly expanding economy don't always correlate to actual reduction in dollar amounts. Dollar amounts are the only criteria that count. "See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005) #39. To: mininggold (#38) No, what really counts is spending as a percentage of GDP A person earning $500,000 a year can have a much larger house payment than someone earning $50,000 and still spend a much smaller percentage of their income on their mortgage
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