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Title: Presidential Scholars: Bush Is The Worst President Of The Modern Era, Bottom Five Of All Time
Source: THINKPROGRESS
URL Source: http://thinkprogress.org/
Published: Jul 1, 2010
Author: Alex Seitz-Wald
Post Date: 2010-07-01 12:49:51 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 145169
Comments: 152

Since 1982, the Siena Research Institute has polled presidential scholars on whom they view to be best and worst presidents in American history, based on a variety of issues from “integrity” to economic stewardship. This year’s poll of 238 scholars found that President Franklin Roosevelt was once again ranked on top, joined by Presidents Lincoln, Jefferson, Washington, and Teddy Roosevelt to complete the top five. However, President George W. Bush did not fare well since the last poll was conducted in 2002. He dropped 16 places to 39th, making him the worst president since Warren Harding died in office in 1923, and one of the bottom five of all time, according to the experts:

Today, just one year after leaving office, the former president has
found himself in the bottom five at 39th rated especially poorly in handling the economy, communication, ability to compromise, foreign policy accomplishments and intelligence. Rounding out the bottom five are four presidents that have held that dubious distinction each time the survey has been conducted: Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin Pierce.

Bush was rated second from the bottom on “intelligence,” “foreign policy
accomplishments,” and “handling of U.S. economy.” This despite promises from Bush supporters that “history will be very kind” to the former president, as his Attorney General John Ashcroft put it. Bush’s father’s legacy “held constant” in this year’s poll, with George H.W. Bush coming in at 22nd. President Reagan “dropped two places from 16th overall in 2002 to 18th today.” President Obama was ranked 15th. (HT: Taegan Goddard)

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Bush was rated second from the bottom on “intelligence,” “foreign policy accomplishments,” and “handling of U.S. economy.”

This alone demonstrates a lack of credibilyt from this organization nobody's heard of before.

Does that guy bitchin about Ann Coulter in the other absurd thread you posted own it?

(laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   13:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

Rounding out the bottom five are four presidents that have held that dubious distinction each time the survey has been conducted: Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin Pierce.

Ok,any bottom five that doesn't have Jim-Mah Cawtur as tied for first place in the worse category with Boy Jorge is pure BullBarrack. They are obviously partisan and biased.

Of course,ANY list that has Lincoln and King Franklin in the top 5 is a fascist list to start with.

Not to mention LBJ. Hell,LBJ should probably hold the top (bottom?) spot with Jim- Mah and Boy Jorge in a dead heat for second place.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-01   14:44:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: sneakypete (#2)

Ok,any bottom five that doesn't have Jim-Mah Cawtur as tied for first place in the worse category with Boy Jorge is pure BullBarrack. They are obviously partisan and biased.

Gee, no bias AND no factual basis here....(chuckle)

You're caught up in the moment, sneaky. Bush is a middling POTUS, no denying that. But five worst?

Thats ridiculous.

100% agreement about Carter, but on that one we actually have measurable facts with which to place him there.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   14:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye (#3)

Bush is a middling POTUS, no denying that. But five worst?

Absolutely. Carter was and is merely incompetent. Boy Jorge is both incompetent AND a traitor.

Thats ridiculous.

What is ridiculous is that you and some of the others are still too blind to see it. You criticize Barry Soetoro,and he is nothing more than Bush 4.0.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-01   18:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete, Badeye (#4)

LOL!

Pointing at you and laughing my a$$ off petey!

"It's ALL de ebil BOOOOOSH'S fault!" (tm. pending)

Eh petey?

EH?

LOL!

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-02   3:46:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Mad Dog (#5)

It's ALL de ebil BOOOOOSH'S fault!" (tm. pending)

Eh petey?

No,he was merely a tool,a fool,and a traitor. He just happened to be the head fool and traitor for 8 years. His whole damn family is treasonous,dating back to his grandfather,and including his treasonous One World Order father and his fascist uncle.

LOL!

Laugh,Nero,laugh!

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-02   8:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#4)

Carter was and is merely incompetent. Boy Jorge is both incompetent AND a traitor.

Yeah right, as if its Bush who is the one not wasting any opportunity to trash America on foreign soil.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-07-02   9:01:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: no gnu taxes (#7)

Carter never bitched about what he was doing was "hard work"...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-07-02   9:05:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: sneakypete (#4)

Boy Jorge is both incompetent AND a traitor.

Oh bullshit. but its not worth arguing about.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-02   9:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: no gnu taxes (#7)

Bush who is the one not wasting any opportunity to trash America on foreign soil.

You never trash what you are selling because it lowers the price.

Even Boy Jorge understood that.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-02   21:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete (#6)

LOL!

I wasn't laughing at the situation that we are ALL now in, I was, and AM, laughing at the legions of little pissy chickenshit gurls such as you who think that pointing fingers at anybody except the current usurper messiah "king" obammy, and this current CONgress, and their true masters, at THIS point means a damned thing re; FIXING it.

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-03   17:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Mad Dog (#11)

Hey dipshit. It was gratifying and hilarious to see leadpenny expose your phony service.

Hurts to have the light shone on your bullshit after all this time eh? lol. Don't worry though, all the guys down at the bar still believe you.

LOL

To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-07-03   18:05:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Mad Dog (#11)

laughing at the legions of little pissy chickenshit gurls such as you

YOU are the one who lives up any warm RINO ass you can find and feel at home there because you lack the courage to think for yourself and break the chains,and *I* am a "chickenshit gurl"?????

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-03   19:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Abu el Banat (#12)

LOL!

Thanks for the giggles yabba dabba do! when did YOU ever serve in the US armed forces in ANY way again?

LOL! A little simpering cunt such as you who has never served anywhere calling the US NAVY a "phony" service is pretty F ing HILARIOUS yabba dabba do.

What "bullshit" would that be yabba dabba do?

Pointing at ALL of you lifelong civilian wannabe lubbers LMAO!!!!!!!!!

FTW

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-05   21:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#13) (Edited)

"LOL!

I understand that you are nowhere near the sharpest knife in the drawer petey, so try reading it again.

"I wasn't laughing at the situation that we are ALL now in, I was, and AM, laughing at the legions of little pissy chickenshit gurls such as you who think that pointing fingers at anybody except the current usurper messiah "king" obammy, and this current CONgress, and their true masters, at THIS point means a damned thing re; FIXING it."

"It's ALL ebil BOOOHS'S fault!" (tm. pending)

THAT'S a real useful and productive tack to take eh petey?

You F ing retard.

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-05   21:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#2)

Of course,ANY list that has Lincoln and King Franklin in the top 5 is a fascist list to start with.

If that were true, then American Fascists never would have plotted a coup to against FDR.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-07-05   21:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Mad Dog (#15)

little pissy chickenshit gurls such as you who think that pointing fingers at anybody except the current usurper messiah "king" obammy, and this current CONgress, and their true masters, at THIS point means a damned thing re; FIXING it."

The good news is that when the fools hold their convention this year,you are sure to be crowned as their King.

Tell me this,Buckwheat. If Barry Soetoro and the Dim congress that weren't even in power when Boy Jorge and his RINO pals were in office were able to create all these problems,why are you even fighting against them? If they can do all that while somebody else is in power,they are too much for YOU and your RINO pals to deal with.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-05   22:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#16)

If that were true, then American Fascists never would have plotted a coup to against FDR.

Get thee into rehab. Nobody plotted or enacted a coup against King Franklin. The SOB had to die in office to get rid of him.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-05   22:12:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#18)

Nobody plotted or enacted a coup against King Franklin.

The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hist...t/document_20070723.shtml

lucysmom  posted on  2010-07-05   22:28:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lucysmom (#19)

The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

Are you freaking kidding me??????

That's what King Franklin did! The SOB was the biggest fascist of all time.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-05   22:30:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#4) (Edited)

Absolutely. Carter was and is merely incompetent.

I used to think cahtah was just a bumbling over his head clown.....watching him these past few years either shows him to have gotten alot more snarling and destructive or perhaps he always was hiding behind his Alfred E Newman guise.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. Below is positively the most hilariously BS overflowing comment from the resident obamunist spent-condom EVER:) "This is WHY I left the GOP in the mid 90's. ." Dwarf

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-07-05   22:34:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#20)

That's what King Franklin did! The SOB was the biggest fascist of all time.

You obviously don't know what a Fascist is.

Despite Butler's open contempt for big business, a group of wealthy industrialists in 1934 actually tried to recruit him to lead an army of 500,000 disgruntled veterans in a bizarre but half-baked coup d'etat plot against newly elected President Franklin Roosevelt, whose New Deal social programs were anathema to many of America's elite. Butler instead exposed the scheme and testified against the plotters during a closed session of the U.S. Senate's Special Committee on Un-American Activities Authorized to Investigate Nazi Propaganda and Certain Other Propaganda Activities—also known as the McCormack-Dickstein Committee. The committee essentially believed Butler's testimony but in the end took no action against the alleged plotters. The affair remains exceptionally controversial.

www.historynet.com/paths-...butler-and-dan-daly.htm/5

lucysmom  posted on  2010-07-05   23:03:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#18)

From midway through his third term, til the end, his illness took a serious toll on his mental capabilities. That last 18 months in particular cost millions of lives, and consigned millions more to enslavement. I'm still not sure which was more disasterous long term, the end results in Europe, or in China.

I don't ever want a President to served more than two terms, under any circumstances.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-05   23:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: e_type_jag (#21)

perhaps he always was hiding behind his Alfred E Newman guise.

That has ALWAYS been my opinion of him.

It seems like it is always the people with the most hatred in them that rant and rave about love so much,just like it is the people who rant and rave about hell fire so much have the most reason to fear it.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-06   7:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#22)

That's what King Franklin did! The SOB was the biggest fascist of all time. You obviously don't know what a Fascist is.

It's obvious one of us doesn't.

You are no doubt one of those airheads who think "fascists are evil and communists are good",and are too blind and stupid to realize they are the same people.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-06   7:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#20)

That's what King Franklin did! The SOB was the biggest fascist of all time.

Uh...no...

FDR was on the wrong side of the political spectrum to be a Fascist and American Fascists considered him an enemy.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-07-06   8:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#25)

You are no doubt one of those airheads who think "fascists are evil and communists are good",and are too blind and stupid to realize they are the same people.

Nope, I'm one of those airheads that thinks it is important to get the meaning of the words we define each other with straight. Its a reality thing with me.

Fascism was supported by Capitalists because it was anti union, did not threaten to nationalize business or property.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-07-06   11:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: war (#26)

FDR was on the wrong side of the political spectrum to be a Fascist

BullBarrack! One of the biggest lies ever told is that fascists are right- wingers. They are lefties to their evil core.

and American Fascists considered him an enemy.

Once again,BullBarrack. American LEFTISTS that supported the Nazi version of fascism (you know,National Socialists) considered communists an enemy because the commies were competing for power with them. It was all about who sits on the throne,not which political system. Both were police states that gave the states all the power and the serfs no freedoms.

BTW,nobody heard a whisper of criticism from the American Nazis about the communists or from the American communists about the Nazi's back when they were allies. The brotherhood mould only broke after the Nazi's invaded Russia.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-06   18:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lucysmom (#27)

Nope, I'm one of those airheads that thinks it is important to get the meaning of the words we define each other with straight. Its a reality thing with me.

You sure had ME fooled!

Fascism was supported by Capitalists because it was anti union, did not threaten to nationalize business or property.

Oh,BullBarrack! The Nazi's had unions,and so did the Soviets. The thing is the unions were controlled by the states.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-06   18:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Brian S (#0)

My modern (post WWII) presidential ranking:

HORRIBLE PRESIDENTS

Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, George W Bush

INCONSEQUENTIAL PRESIDENTS

Gerald Ford, George H W Bush

REASONABLY GOOD PRESIDENTS

Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, Bill Clinton

VERY GOOD PRESIDENTS

Ronald Reagan, Harry Truman

jwpegler  posted on  2010-07-06   20:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#28) (Edited)

One of the biggest lies ever told is that fascists are right- wingers.

You're just plain wrong.

Communism - or most leftist/liberal philosophy - is inherently multi-cultural. The myth that you are promoting gets slayed right there.

war  posted on  2010-07-07   8:03:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: jwpegler (#30)

Gerald Ford

Ford will never be appreciated for what he did which was something Nixon couldn't do...stop a spendthrift Congress dead in its tracks.

He was in office for a little over two years yet had nearly 70 vetoes.

war  posted on  2010-07-07   8:08:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: jwpegler (#30)

HORRIBLE PRESIDENTS

Lyndon Johnson

It is amazing to me that so many people overlook how truly evil LBJ was.The man was totally lacking in any sort of moral character at all.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-07   9:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: war (#31)

You're just plain wrong. It is inherently a police state with a ruling elite and serfs to serve them.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-07   9:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete (#34)

It is inherently a police state with a ruling elite and serfs to serve them.

You've just described functional fascism, sneaky.

war  posted on  2010-07-07   9:36:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: war (#35)

It is inherently a police state with a ruling elite and serfs to serve them.

You've just described functional fascism, sneaky.

Yes,I know. That was my intention.

I also described communism.

A fascist is nothing more than a communist that has evolved.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-07   22:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#36)

I also described communism.

Nothing that Marx ever wrote about regarding functional Marxism.

You have described authoratarianism in broad terms but have failed to distinguish it in any specific sense.

war  posted on  2010-07-08   8:02:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#37)

I also described communism.

Nothing that Marx ever wrote about regarding functional Marxism.

Oh,BullBarrack! You are just defending your leftism. You are smart enough to know that Marx wasn't the only communist. Hell,he didn't even invent any of the concepts. He just formalized them in a book and became a figurehead.

You have described authoratarianism in broad terms but have failed to distinguish it in any specific sense.

In other words,you want to know how many commies can dance on the head of a pin,and then you want their individual names?

Play dodge ball much?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-08   9:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#38) (Edited)

Oh,BullBarrack!

Book and chapter please.

In other words,you want to know how many commies can dance on the head of a pin,and then you want their individual names?

No one is arguing that authoratarianism does not or can not exist on both sides of the political spectrum.

war  posted on  2010-07-08   9:40:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: war (#39)

Book and chapter please.

Why waste my time writing and giving references that you already know and refuse to accept. Communism BY DEFINITION is against human nature,and the only way it can exist as a political and ruling system is by force of the police state.

Pulling the mask off communism is the same to you as stripping away your mother's clothing. It is unacceptable.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-08   9:47:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete (#40)

Communism BY DEFINITION is against human nature

So is a constitutional republic.

war  posted on  2010-07-08   9:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: war (#41)

Communism BY DEFINITION is against human nature So is a constitutional republic.

Only in "War World" and other communist enclaves.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-08   10:18:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: sneakypete (#42)

Read Hobbes' State of Nature....

Leviathan (1651) was clearly Hobbes's masterpiece. Man is not naturally good, Hobbes claimed, but naturally a selfish hedonist -- "of the voluntary acts of every man, the object is some good to himself". As human motives were, in their natural state, guided by unenlightened self-interest, these could, if left unchecked, have highly destructive consequences. Left unrestrained, humans, propelled by their internal dynamics, would crash against each other. Hobbes tried to envision what society would be like in a "state of nature" -- before any civil state or rule of law. His conclusion was despiriting: life would be "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short", a "war of every man against every man".

Nonetheless, as all people are equal (in a physical not a moral sense), possessing a passionate love of survival (right of nature) and some degree of rationality (law of nature), Hobbes concluded that a viable, working society would arise as an equilibrium between these competing forces. The logic is simple. Any person's right of nature justifies violence against everybody else. Consequently, in the interests of personal survival, people will come around to agreeing that they should renounce their right to use violence. However, this yields up a tense and unstable equilibrium. The moment one party deviates from their promise, all will deviate and war restarts.

To keep society going with peace and confidence, then an artifice -- a Leviathan -- must be worked into the social contract. This Leviathan is the State -- whether in the form of an absolute monarch or a democratic parliament, it does not matter. The important point is that the State will be given a monopoly on violence and absolute authority. In return, the State promises to exercise its absolute power to maintain a state of peace (by punishing deviants, etc.) Realizing that its power depends wholly on the willingness of the citizenry to surrender theirs, the State itself will have an incentive not to abuse it. Of course, there is no guarantee that it won't. But when it does, it must brace itself for the consequences.

One of the interesting elements of Hobbes's story is that concepts like morality, liberty, justice, property, etc. have no natural, intrinsic or eternal meaning. They are pure social constructions. They are generated and imposed by the Leviathan, through his laws and institutions, to keep war and social disorder at bay. As history has shown, no set of values will last forever but will evolve as circumstances change.

war  posted on  2010-07-08   10:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: war (#43)

One of the interesting elements of Hobbes's story is that concepts like morality, liberty, justice, property, etc. have no natural, intrinsic or eternal meaning. They are pure social constructions.

He's wrong.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-08   21:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: sneakypete (#44) (Edited)

He's wrong.

No he's not. He'd dead on. Morality is first and foremost a Social Construct. Read Deuteronomy and Leviticus.

war  posted on  2010-07-09   7:53:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: war (#45)

You're crazy aren't you. Fucking insane.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-09   8:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: war (#45)

Not to beat a dead horse. But the other day you said I falsely called you a liar.

Well it wasn't false. When you post something with your name and you change the article to say that is what it was. That is a lie. Just wanted you to know why I said that. Carry on.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-09   8:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone (#47)

But the other day you said I falsely called you a liar.

You did and your logic is contorted. I admitted that I added in the word "obese". It in no way changed the article.

But for someone with such a strong sense of "truth" you certainly don't mind lying about evolution.

war  posted on  2010-07-09   8:23:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: war (#48)

I admitted that I added in the word "obese". It in no way changed the article.

Bahaaaaaaaa...........

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-07-09   8:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: A K A Stone (#46)

Let's stipulate to the truth of Genesis. When Eve, faced with the decision between "right" and "wrong", what decision did she make?

When Cain, confronted with his murder, what decision did he make?

These are illustrations of the 1st and 6th commandments.

Why were the Ten Commandments even necessary?

MORALITY is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT.

war  posted on  2010-07-09   8:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Jethro Tull (#49) (Edited)

Bahaaaaaaaa...........

Put your teeth in...I can't understand a word you're saying...

war  posted on  2010-07-09   8:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: war (#50)

www.thefreedictionary.com/change

CHANGE

1. The act, process, or result of altering or modifying

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-07-09   8:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Jethro Tull, w.a.r. (#52)

Good try, but my advice is don't bother with definitions of words.

His hero can't even understand what the meaning of "is" . . . is.

If I could, I would.
But I can't, so I won't.

Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-07-09   8:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Jethro Tull (#52) (Edited)

I'll give you nine more...and then ten next week and each week thereafter and after a year maybe you'll be able to have an intelligent conversation.

How long are you going to dwell on this, Dancing Nancy? I capitulated to the prevailing double standard here. Frankly, it's really none of your business You're just an asshole poster here.

war  posted on  2010-07-09   8:38:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: war (#54)

How long are you going to dwell on this, Dancing Nancy?

Forever.

Each time you deny you changed that article, leaves you open to ridicule, and that I can't resist :P

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-07-09   8:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Ignore Amos (#53)

Good try, but my advice is don't bother with definitions of words.

I know, but it's sooooooo hard not to point at IT and laugh :)

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-07-09   8:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

leaves you open to ridicule

You have a lower threshold than I do. Nothing you've done comes close to ridicule, Cheetah [snicker]...

war  posted on  2010-07-09   8:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Jethro Tull (#56)

...but it's sooooooo hard not

Chuckles...try viagara or cialis...

war  posted on  2010-07-09   8:56:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: The Tool (#57)

You have a lower threshold than I do

I'm afraid not Tool. When one openly lies like yourself, and continues to lie, they've hit bottom.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-07-09   8:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Jethro Tull (#59) (Edited)

You can repeat that lie ad infinitum.

And you're hardly one to be casting stones...

Somewhere there's a discussion of the 10 Commandments...how do you feel about the 7th?

war  posted on  2010-07-09   9:10:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

How long are you going to dwell on this, Dancing Nancy? Forever.

Each time you deny you changed that article, leaves you open to ridicule, and that I can't resist :P

We'll never actually know how many times dwarf did this over the past couple of years here, and elsewhere.

Does anyone actually believe this was a 'first time error in judgement' on the part of this clown?

Doubt it.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-09   9:24:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Tool (#60)

Somewhere there's a discussion of the 10 Commandments...how do you feel about the 7th?

hahahahahaha :P

I LOVE the 7th!!!

I haven't paid attention to them since they were beat them out of me at St Thomas, many years ago.

Where does your lying fit, Tool?

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-07-09   9:46:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Jethro Tull (#62)

Your premise is faulty. I don't lie.

How about you and the 7th?

war  posted on  2010-07-09   9:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: war (#63)

I don't lie.

Yeah, you do lie, and yes, I love women. My bad. You should try it some time Twinkle Toes:P

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-07-09   10:17:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull (#64)

I don't lie.

(laughing)

His entire internet persona is a lie.

And Bill Clinton didn't have sex with that woman...Ms Lewinsky.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-09   10:18:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Jethro Tull (#64) (Edited)

So which is worse...adding "obese" into an article to accurately describe the fat fuck of a New Jersey governor or popping your co-moderator behind your wife's back - a wife to whom you promised to forsake all others?

Which is worse?

war  posted on  2010-07-09   10:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Jethro Tull (#64)

Hello? McFly?

war  posted on  2010-07-09   11:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: war (#45)

No he's not. He'd dead on.

Well,at least he is dead,anyway.

Morality is first and foremost a Social Construct. Read Deuteronomy and Leviticus.

Wrong once again.

Tell me,where did all this "social construct" come from?

Did it fall off a tree?

Was it delivered by the Social Construct Cat?

Or maybe it came from humans?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-09   12:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: sneakypete (#68)

Tell me,where did all this "social construct" come from?

They evolved over time, first by brute force of death or shunning, second through tradition.

The leader of a troop of silver backed monkeys will protect his mates from the occasional rival with fights to the death or he will throw stones to remove the offender from the group.

war  posted on  2010-07-09   13:23:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: war (#66)

So which is worse...adding "obese" into an article to accurately describe the fat fuck of a New Jersey governor or popping your co-moderator behind your wife's back - a wife to whom you promised to forsake all others?

Just too funny. It brings a whole new meaning to 4um's mission statement. I bet he gets Stone to take your comment down, he's such a pussy. Might even demand you apologize too.

He's quite regal you know.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-07-09   14:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: mininggold (#70) (Edited)

Hey...I was simply using the "royal" you and the "royal" your in an effort to find the perimeter of Tull's "Outrage Border".

[snicker]

war  posted on  2010-07-09   14:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: war (#71)

Hey...I was simply using the "royal" you and the royal your in an effort to find the perimeter of Tull's "Outrage Border".

His behavior's okay though because he loves women. Morals, ethics and power have nothing to do with it.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-07-09   14:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: mininggold (#70)

Just too funny. It brings a whole new meaning to 4um's mission statement.

It all makes more sense now. lol

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-07-09   15:18:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Fred Mertz (#73)

What is the mission statement? That site is blocked here.

war  posted on  2010-07-09   15:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Brian S (#0)

President Obama was ranked 15th.

That is hilarious and pathetic!

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-07-09   15:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: war (#74)

I guess if you're in with the in-crowd you won't get banned.

The mission of this forum is to provide a cyberspace meeting place where lovers of individual freedom can gather to post articles and opinions about the world's events and how these events affect their unalienable rights to life, liberty, and property.

One of our fundamental rights is that of our right to freedom of association. The correlative right to freedom of association is the equally important right to freedom of non-association. Yes, the right to NOT associate -- to exclude people from our interrelationships, for any reason, based on personal preference, is also a fundamental right. This right should be free from government interference, coercion, policies, statutes, rules, regulations, codes, or force.

Another fundamental right is the right to private property -- to own and enjoy our property free from government or second-party interference, as long as one's use of that property does not trespass on the equal rights of another.

Consistent with these two fundamental unalienable rights, this forum constitutes the private property of its owners and, as such, allows for the exercise of our right to freedom of association and freedom of non-association, based on our preferences. Therefore, regarding banning policies of this forum, as they relate to the protection of private property, the owners reserve the right to suspend or terminate the posting privileges of guests on this forum at our discretion.

That said, we will endeavor to use this discretion judiciously while being mindful of not allowing guests to post on this forum who, we believe, are detrimental to the goals and values consistent with that of individual liberty.

Thank you

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-07-09   15:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Fred Mertz (#76)

That said, we will endeavor to use this discretion judiciously

Given how sensitive Tull is to his staion as Resident Asshole, the above should be modified.

war  posted on  2010-07-09   15:26:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: war (#74)

I guess when I was in Florida, Stoner got unbanned from there. I wonder what caused that to happen.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-07-09   15:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: war (#77)

Where did Tull go? He seemed to be having such fun this morning here.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-07-09   15:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Fred Mertz (#79) (Edited)

Where did Tull go? He seemed to be having such fun this morning here.

Maybe he's looking for a nice clean sheet of paper and a pencil to work out the moral pose I gave him this morning.

war  posted on  2010-07-09   15:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: The Tool (#66)

So which is worse...adding "obese" into an article to accurately describe the fat fuck of a New Jersey governor or popping your co-moderator behind your wife's back - a wife to whom you promised to forsake all others?

Which is worse?

Sorry I didn't get back immediately. Life gets in the way, unlike you.

Popping? Is that code speak for the removal of festering leftist boils such as yourself and the gin sot from 4um? If yes, I plead guilty. If not, viva la Internet rumors. Given my advancing age, it's actually quite flattering of you to think otherwise :P

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-07-09   20:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: sneakypete (#17)

LOL!

What an asswipe you are petey I can't be a repukelican't in name only petey because I've never been a repukelican't.

As to why fight them petey? gee petey there's this country called the United States of America, ever heard of it? Don't you have any children or grandchildren or younger family members petey?

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-19   20:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Mad Dog (#82)

I can't be a repukelican't in name only petey because I've never been a repukelican't.

Right. And war is a Independent.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-20   0:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: sneakypete (#83)

LOL!

Does that tack usually work on the grade school children you usually have discussions with petey?

Or don't you have the balls to just say what you really mean little "man"?

Me a repukelican't!

THAT'S funny!

LOL!

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-20   2:10:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Mad Dog (#84)

Does that tack usually work on the grade school children you usually have discussions with petey?

Yeah,it does,so I figured it probably wouldn't be too far above your level.

Or don't you have the balls to just say what you really mean little "man"?

*I* am not the one that is the fake veteran,pussyboy.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-20   5:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: sneakypete (#85)

You aren't all that bright are you little "man"?

We have already, (long ago), established that you are a person without any honor.

So it comes as absolutely zero surprise that a vapid little dishonorable cunt such as you calls NAVY veterans "fake" veterans.

I just checked again petey boy, the names on the Vietnam Memorial include names from all branches.

What a pitiful little cunt you are petey.

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-20   17:25:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Mad Dog (#86)

We have already, (long ago), established that you are a person without any honor.

You mean back when it was proven that I am a VN vet,and nobody believes you are?

o it comes as absolutely zero surprise that a vapid little dishonorable cunt such as you calls NAVY veterans "fake" veterans

Blah,blah,blah. Same old shit from the same old shit. I did NOT call Navy veterans "fake veterans". I am saying YOU are a fake Navy veteran. Most likely given a "for the good of the service" discharge right from boot camp because they discovered you are a psycho.

Which is really a shame because when you are on your meds you really are a bright guy. Then you get off them,and start spewing nothing but insane obscenities and foaming at the mouth.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-20   20:02:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

jwpegler  posted on  2010-07-20   20:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Brian S (#0)

Bush Is The Worst President Of The Modern Era, Bottom Five Of All Time

Can we define our terms here? What does "worst" mean?

In the modern era:

Carter was the most inept. Obama is getting close.

Johnson had the most destructive long term impact with Medicare and Medicaid. W. Bush was second. Nixon is definitely in this camp too. Obama may wind up beating them all.

Johnson, Carter, Bush, Nixon and Obama are all idiots so I'm not sure that it matters which one is at the very bottom, but right now I'm putting my money on Obama.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-07-20   20:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: sneakypete (#87)

LOL! Like I said before petey, you aren't all that bright are you?

The truth is petey that you were talking about the NAV, not just me, (I'd pull the quotes if I thought that you had the intellectual honesty or honor to admit that you wrote them which you do not), (or if I really cared what a dishonorable little cunt such as you "thinks").

I have posted the outlines of my NAVY service on LP. It's not my fault that you are too stupid to understand them.

What you are petey is a tantrum throwing dishonorable little cunt, who insults and disparages other veteran's service because you dislike them, AND you think that you were the only person whose service actually "mattered". I understand that petey, I understand how your insecurities and doubts make you need to build yourself up, because you are afraid that you really aren't "all that". Still it is sad to see you dishonor yourself so.

In any event petey you certainly have no standing to say who is and who is not a veteran you vile little cunt.

LOL! Besides that the entire point of your lame crap is to TRY to enrage me because I know that you know that I am the real deal. Unfortunately for you petey, doing that just shows what a dishonorable little cunt you really are little "man".

You see petey I insult YOU as an individual, I have always just insulted YOU as an individual, not your putative branch, or MOS, or unit, or service. I could certainly call you a lying POS and keep pounding you with that knowing that it would certainly get to you. I could make you cry and run away and hide behind the ignore, (you KNOW that I could). In other words I could turn your crap around and aim it right at your boiler room. But you see petey I'm NOT a dishonorable little cunt like you are, I don't play that crap.

You make me feel very sorry for you, after we went through this dance before at LP I thought that in the end that you were actually a man, and then you turn out to be just another weepy dishonorable cunt.

What happened to you petey are you having serious health or life problems? If so, I hope you get better soon.

Why did you abandon your honor?

Just to TRY to screw with me?

Sad.

Pitiful ...

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-20   23:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Mad Dog (#90)

Blah,blah,blah,more bullshit. All you are doing is trying to make it about the Navy so it isn't about you.

I understand that petey, I understand how your insecurities and doubts make you need to build yourself up,

ROFLMAO! Oh,yeah! I am insecure and filled with doubt about my manhood because I was a career Army NCO,instead of a pretend sailor.

In any event petey you certainly have no standing to say who is and who is not a veteran you vile little cunt.

Unlike you,I AM a VN veteran,and here YOU are calling a genuine VN veteran names. We both know why you do this,though. You are a scared little man that couldn't even hack it in the Navy, and you are jealous.

I know that you know that I am the real deal.

I know that you are a phony,and a psycho.

I could certainly call you a lying POS and keep pounding you with that knowing that it would certainly get to you.

You could also claim you have wings that fold flat on your back that allow you to fly when nobody is watching.

I could make you cry and run away and hide behind the ignore, (you KNOW that I could).

Let me make this plain as possible to you. You and your entire fucking family couldn't get me to cross the street if I didn't want to.

In other words I could turn your crap around and aim it right at your boiler room. But you see petey I'm NOT a dishonorable little cunt like you are, I don't play that crap.

What you are is crazy.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-21   0:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: sneakypete (#91)

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

I understand that anything over five words is beyond your mental abilities so take your time and maybe, just maybe you might be able to understand what I'm saying to you petey boy.

Whatever you once were petey, what you are now is nothing but a pitiful dishonorable little cunt.

"LOL! Like I said before petey, you aren't all that bright are you?

The truth is petey that you were talking about the NAV, not just me, (I'd pull the quotes if I thought that you had the intellectual honesty or honor to admit that you wrote them which you do not), (or if I really cared what a dishonorable little cunt such as you "thinks").

I have posted the outlines of my NAVY service on LP. It's not my fault that you are too stupid to understand them.

What you are petey is a tantrum throwing dishonorable little cunt, who insults and disparages other veteran's service because you dislike them, AND you think that you were the only person whose service actually "mattered". I understand that petey, I understand how your insecurities and doubts make you need to build yourself up, because you are afraid that you really aren't "all that". Still it is sad to see you dishonor yourself so.

In any event petey you certainly have no standing to say who is and who is not a veteran you vile little cunt.

LOL! Besides that the entire point of your lame crap is to TRY to enrage me because I know that you know that I am the real deal. Unfortunately for you petey, doing that just shows what a dishonorable little cunt you really are little "man".

You see petey I insult YOU as an individual, I have always just insulted YOU as an individual, not your putative branch, or MOS, or unit, or service. I could certainly call you a lying POS and keep pounding you with that knowing that it would certainly get to you. I could make you cry and run away and hide behind the ignore, (you KNOW that I could). In other words I could turn your crap around and aim it right at your boiler room. But you see petey I'm NOT a dishonorable little cunt like you are, I don't play that crap.

You make me feel very sorry for you, after we went through this dance before at LP I thought that in the end that you were actually a man, and then you turn out to be just another weepy dishonorable cunt.

What happened to you petey are you having serious health or life problems? If so, I hope you get better soon.

Why did you abandon your honor?

Just to TRY to screw with me?

Sad.

Pitiful ..."

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-21   14:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Mad Dog (#92)

lol, such a pleasure to watch Pete kick your ass you fucking phony.

Badeye has a gay crush on ABBA

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-07-21   14:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Abu el Banat (#93)

LOL!

Just like the messiah "king" Obammy kicked north Korea's ass eh yabba dabba do?

Remind me again yabba dabba do, which branch did you serve in again?

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-21   20:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Mad Dog (#92)

BLAH,BLAH,BLAH. More overcompensating and playing the tough guy because of your insecurities.

Here is a news flash for you,even though I know you won't believe it. Almost nobody really gives a damn if you were the Navy version of Sgt York,or if you were booted out during boot camp "for the good of the service". The only people I know who would care are/were genuine sailors,and they care because all your macho posing and calling names embarrasses them and makes them and the Navy look bad.

I sure as hell don't care. One of my best friends when I worked with the post office was a draftee stationed in Germany,and he is getting a 30% PTSD disability rating from the VA and Germany is as close as he got to VN. He was a telephone repairman,and a lot of people in his unit where getting orders to go to VN,and he had a nervous breakdown from worrying about getting sent there and had to be hospitalized. I know this because he told me himself.

I also have a HELL of a lot more respect for him than I do posers like you. He at least had the courage to admit he had been scared,and was honest about his service. You can NEVER hold it against somebody for doing the best they can do. None of us can do any more than that.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-21   22:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: sneakypete (#95) (Edited)

LOL!

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight petey boy.

You belong working for the post office loser. Sucking at that gooberment teat is just your style.

As to all the rest of your lies, they are just that petey boy. Want me to pull your quotes about the NAV in general, and anybody who wasn't in your unit in specific LIAR? How about your comments about the people whose names are on the Vietnam Memorial you lying POS? Don't worry LIAR, you aren't worth the effort.

I think that it's "cute" that now you TRY to claim that you are worried that me getting passionate about defending the US NAVY from your slurs and insults will embarrass squids. LOL! and you call ME insane!

You are so F ing stupid that you forget that ALL of this exists at LP for everyone who cares to look to see.

You are pitiful, dishonorable little cunt, and a LYING POS to boot petey boy.

Pitiful

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-22   0:47:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Mad Dog (#96)

Want me to pull your quotes about the NAV in general, and anybody who wasn't in your unit in specific LIAR?

Yeah,I do. Make sure you post my whole comment,too. No editing.

BTW,it's the NAVY,not the NAV. I'm shocked that a Village People wannabe you like doesn't know that,Macho,Macho Man.

How about your comments about the people whose names are on the Vietnam Memorial you lying POS?

You betcha,Susan!

Don't worry LIAR, you aren't worth the effort.

I'm not worried. Do it.

I think that it's "cute" that now you TRY to claim that you are worried that me getting passionate about defending the US NAVY from your slurs and insults will embarrass squids.

I'm not embarrassed about it,Dorothy. I KNOW it embarrasses them. How could they NOT be embarrassed to have a Macho,Macho Man like you claim to be representative of sailors?

Your life would be a lot more pleasant if you would just go ahead and come out of the closet and admit you like show tunes.

The only questions remaining are:

1: "Were you put out of the Navy in boot camp because of mental instability,or because of you kept getting boners while in the shower with the other recruits?

2: "If it was the boy boner thing,is this what caused your mental instability?"

Do yourself a favor. Come out of the closet.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-22   7:14:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: sneakypete (#97)

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No you ignorant little cunt it's the NAV to squids.

I was guidon bearer for my NTSC bootcamp company #68 217, and the academic winner of my company. Of my company of forty guys, 38 went to be corspsmen ito serve with the Corps, while I and one other guy went to the fleet to Destroyers. I was top of class you little lying cunt.

LOL! Let me ask you a little question you little lying cunt, what exactly have I said or done that you think is so "macho"?

Defend the NAV from your lies insults and slurs with admitted passion? Tell the TRUTH about what my ships and DesRon15 and the 7th fleet and the NAV did in Vietnam?

Did the mean 'ol dog make miss petey piss her wittle panties? LOL! I guess it's pretty obvious who "the Village People" fan is here cunt.

I already told you cunt, that I'm not going to waste my time quoting you back to you because you are a lying sniveling little whiney cunt, who would cry and make excuses and deny what your own words actually say. You simply haven't the intellectual honesty or honor to treat you as if you were an actual man.

LOL! You're just a dishonorable LYING little cunt. You already know that you are LYING about my service, we ALL know that you are LYING about the NAV's role in Vietnam, and we by God know who the one obsessed with queerness here cunt boy.

You and that vile beyond mere words TRASH and "his" ilk, are made for each other petey boy. You are birds of a feather.

It's really FUNNY that a little cunt like you who has insulted and slurred the NAV as a bunch of cowards, who claimed that sailors all joined the NAV expressly to avoid the WAR, who did nothing dangerous, or of significance or value during Vietnam; would now TRY to claim that my passionate defense of the NAV will "embarrass" today's squids! I didn't serve in the love boat NAV so I don't really understand what that's like, but the NAV I was in would have kicked you lying little cunt butt down the middle of main street at noon if you had given any of our shipmates even a fraction of the lying sh!t you have given me. But you are a real brave little pussy over the web aren't you cunt?

You're a COWARD petey. You're a miserable little puffed up cunt who thinks that only you and your unit are worthy of being called vets. You have said as much to me you little LYING cunt.

You are more foul than all of these never been nowhere, never done nothing, life long civilian dweebs; because IF you really are a vet, (which I am coming to really doubt), you should know better. You should know how to act like a man, but you act like what you are petey, a despicable little LYING cunt.

What a pitiful little cowardly LYING cunt you are petey boy.

You are a miserable little cunt who does not know honor.

Pitiful

Spit ...

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-22   15:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Mad Dog (#98)

You are a sad and disturbed little man.

Maybe you should buy a dog? They aren't too discriminating.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-22   21:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Bilge Rat (#98)

You're a COWARD petey. You're a miserable little puffed up cunt who thinks that only you and your unit are worthy of being called vets. You have said as much to me you little LYING cunt.

Oh Bilge Rat,.....how can you live with the lies?

Shot down 3 Migs during Vietnam war.
Thats right up there with John F'n Kerry.

"I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared -- seared -- in me."

Parrot: Poor John Kerry,....the poor man has PTSD. and then you shot down 3 Migs and no one in America believes,

Devastating !.....

Are you going on CSPAN to throw your medals back?

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2010-07-22   23:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Parrot with speed dial (#100)

Shot down 3 Migs during Vietnam war.
Thats right up there with John F'n Kerry.

That boy ain't right and I won't pile on.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-07-22   23:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Fred Mertz (#101)

Shot down 3 Migs during Vietnam war. Thats right up there with John F'n Kerry.

That boy ain't right and I won't pile on.

I mostly lurk at LP

These 2 Bot psycho's ruin every thread they participate in.
Its not even intelligent challenge,.....you'd think the GOP had better horses in the barn.

12 hours plus a day stalking people,.......its just over the top.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2010-07-22   23:59:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: sneakypete (#99)

LOL!

ALL of my dogs have more honor than you do petey. ALL of them are better living beings than you could ever hope to be you little cunt. THEY aren't LIARS who have no honor for a start.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-24   17:01:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Bird boy (#100)

LOL!

It's ALL lies all of the time with you isn't it bird boy?

I already explained to you so called "military experts" that nobody does anything alone in the armed forces or US NAVY. YOU morons thought that I had claimed to have splashed three migs by myself! LOL! Your ignorance is invincible bird boy. Remember "terrier" standard 1, and CAP vector bird boy?

LOL!

And, AGAIN bird boy, even though I despise Kerry, he is still WAY ahead of you COWARD, because he actually served in his country's armed forces. Unlike YOU who has never served anywhere at any time in ANY military.

I actually have "medals" that I could throw back if I wanted to, unlike YOU bird boy.

You are a pitiful little foreign fuck bird boy.

I know how you live with your lies bird boy.

YOU shame your ancestors.

Ain't NOTHING "funny" about THAT bird boy.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-24   17:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Fred Mertz (#101)

LOL!

YOU can't "pile on" you little faggot cunt.

You don't even know what a Mig is, let alone what was involved in splashing them.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-24   17:22:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Bird boy (#102)

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-24   17:26:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Mad Dog (#103)

Do yourself a favor. Get back on your meds.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-24   22:12:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Mad Dog (#104)

You were probably just a deck swabber. You were certainly never anyone of any significance.

Badeye has a gay crush on ABBA

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-07-25   0:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Abu el Banat (#108)

You were probably just a deck swabber. You were certainly never anyone of any significance.

Some people were brought on board just to be buggered by the officers. Sounds perfect for Pansy Pussy.


"To suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous liberals,
or to quit halfterm, and by opposing, rake in speaking fees."
- ShakesPalin

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-25   11:13:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Skip Intro (#109)

Yes, sounds perfect.

Now get ready for some more outrage, flying spittle and drool.

Badeye has a gay crush on ABBA

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-07-25   12:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: sneakypete (#99)

Maybe you should buy a dog? They aren't too discriminating.

I hate to think of the possibilities but he/she has posted it takes care of musher dogs practicing for the Iditorod.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-07-25   12:38:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Abu el Banat (#110)

Now get ready for some more outrage, flying spittle and drool.

I don't know why. It prepared him to live in bliss with yukon, the love of his life.

I wonder if yucktard shot down the remaining two MiGs the navy claimed during VN?


"To suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous liberals,
or to quit halfterm, and by opposing, rake in speaking fees."
- ShakesPalin

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-25   12:38:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Skip Intro (#112)

I wonder if yucktard shot down the remaining two MiGs the navy claimed during VN?

Nah,he probably just talked to them for a few minutes,and they decided to crash their jets to keep that from happening again.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-25   21:11:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: sneakypete (#107)

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-25   22:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Abu el Banat (#108)

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-25   22:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Skip Intro (#109)

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-25   22:50:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Abu el Banat (#110)

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-25   22:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: mininggold (#111)

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-25   22:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Skip Intro (#112)

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-25   22:52:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: sneakypete (#113)

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-25   22:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Abu el Banat (#110)

Now get ready for some more outrage, flying spittle and drool.

He's doing it now. So predictable.

"Lets (sic) rent a room." ~ Jethro Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-07-25   22:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Mad Dog (#119)

Hi Pansy. Shot down any MiGs lately? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chickenshit asshole.


"To suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous liberals,
or to quit halfterm, and by opposing, rake in speaking fees."
- ShakesPalin

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-25   23:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Skip Intro (#122)

Have you EVER served in ANY military, at any time, or anywhere yet skippy?

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-25   23:16:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Fred Mertz (#121)

Freddy the faggot wimp!

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-25   23:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Mad Dog, sneakypete (#114)

Mad Dog vs. sneakypete

“The greatest evil is not done in those sordid dens of evil that Dickens loved to paint but is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clear, carpeted, warmed, well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voices.” --C. S. Lewis

Murron  posted on  2010-07-25   23:27:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Mad Dog, Skip Intro (#123)

Have you EVER served in ANY military, at any time, or anywhere yet skippy?

Not fair! Skippy has serviced numerous Sheiks, Taliban and Hamas.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-07-25   23:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Mad Dog (#123)

Have you EVER served in ANY military, at any time, or anywhere yet skippy?

Not yet. Have you?


"To suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous liberals,
or to quit halfterm, and by opposing, rake in speaking fees."
- ShakesPalin

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-26   0:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Murron (#125)

LOL!

Dogs, (especially SEA dogs), RULE!

;^)

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-26   1:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Mad Dog (#128)

Good night! &;-)

“The greatest evil is not done in those sordid dens of evil that Dickens loved to paint but is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clear, carpeted, warmed, well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voices.” --C. S. Lewis

Murron  posted on  2010-07-26   1:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Ibluafartsky (#126)

Not fair! Skippy has serviced numerous Sheiks, Taliban and Hamas.

LOL!

Good point!

The TRUTH hurts, (but just skippy).

;^)

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-26   1:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Skip Intro (#127)

LOL!

And you NEVER will either pussy.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-26   1:47:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Murron (#129)

"Ciao bella."

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-26   1:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Mad Dog (#131)

And you NEVER will either pussy.

I guess that makes two of us Pansy.


"To suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous liberals,
or to quit halfterm, and by opposing, rake in speaking fees."
- ShakesPalin

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-26   10:46:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Skip Intro (#133)

LOL!

You "guess" wrong pussy boy.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-26   16:46:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Mad Dog (#134)

Whatever you say, "3 MiG Killer". LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLAY!!!


"To suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous liberals,
or to quit halfterm, and by opposing, rake in speaking fees."
- ShakesPalin

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-26   16:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Skip Intro (#135)

LOL!

Skippy the drive up window cashier military expert!

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-26   17:05:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Mad Dog (#136)

Hey Pansy, you said it, not me.

If you were in the Navy I suspect it was as a Buggerers' Mate.


"To suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous liberals,
or to quit halfterm, and by opposing, rake in speaking fees."
- ShakesPalin

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-26   17:10:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Skip Intro (#137)

LOL!

I said it because it's TRUE.

I'm mocking your total IGNORANCE of any and ALL things military, you useless little cunt. Because only an ignorant cunt such as you would even think that I was claiming to have done it totally "on my own".

IF you had actually ever spent even an instant in ANY military you'd know and understand that moron.

Hey, aren't you supposed to ask me if I want to "supersize" it?

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-26   18:54:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Skip Intro (#137)

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-26   20:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Skip Intro (#137)

Could I get a happy meal please?

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-26   20:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Mad Dog (#138)

I was claiming to have done it totally "on my own".

No, Pussy, I thought it because that's what you claimed before you got your lying ass pounded into the sand.


"To suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous liberals,
or to quit halfterm, and by opposing, rake in speaking fees."
- ShakesPalin

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-26   20:25:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Skip Intro (#141)

LOL! Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight skippy!

Skippy the lying drive up window cashier military "expert"!

Ya want to "supersize" that "buddy"?

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-26   20:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Mad Dog (#142) (Edited)

Lie all you want, Pansy. It's at LP for all to see.

And thanks for keeping this thread at the top of the heap.

Time for you to go back and hide under Goldi's big ass.

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the syphilitic psychopath

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-26   21:15:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Skip Intro (#143)

LOL!

Poor little hate filled skippy.

WHAT lies? WHY would I lie about ANYTHING skippy? To "impress" unknown morons such as you? LOL!

Careful "buddy" if your shift supervisor sees what a moron you are you'll be passed over for that promotion to fries. Then you won't be able to ever move out of your mommy's basement.

"Bummer."

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-26   23:50:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Mad Dog (#144)

WHY would I lie about ANYTHING skippy?

You'll have to ask your psychiatrist about that, Pansy.

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the syphilitic psychopath

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-26   23:55:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Skip Intro (#145)

LOL!

A useless never been anywhere never done anything living in your mommy's basement little cunt such as you REALLY NEEDS to have the "last word" don't you drive up window boy?

Hey you forgot the fries skippy!

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-27   0:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Mad Dog (#146)

Apparently not, Pussy.

Why not go to bed? Yukon's waiting.

BTW, what was the name of the ship you were on? I think you forgot to mention it.

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the syphilitic psychopath

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-27   0:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Skip Intro (#147)

LOL!

I've named BOTH ships that I served on, many times at LP skippy boy, You are just an ignorant, lazy, ass licking toady who only cares about TRYING to slur your betters, (which includes virtually the entire rest of the humans on the face of this world, including me, junior).

"LOL!

A useless never been anywhere never done anything living in your mommy's basement little cunt such as you REALLY NEEDS to have the "last word" don't you drive up window boy?

Hey you forgot the fries skippy!"

2

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-27   0:51:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Skip Intro (#147)

BTW, what was the name of the ship you were on? I think you forgot to mention it.

The USS Top Hat.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-07-27   0:58:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: mininggold (#149)

LOL!

I guess that's a reference to some sort of perverted act that you bus station whores offer to your johns eh skank?

How's life on the state of Kalipornia's tit skank? Still cruising the bus stations and truck stops to supplement your income? Now THAT'S really "double dipping" eh whore?

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-27   2:07:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: mininggold (#149)

The USS Top Hat.

I would have thought it was the USS Rump Ranger.

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the syphilitic psychopath

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-27   12:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Skip Intro (#151)

I would have thought it was the USS Rump Ranger.

Admit it skippy, that would have been reason for you to volunteer, wouldn't it? You could really "serve", couldn't you? LOLAY!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-07-27   17:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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