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Title: Presidential Scholars: Bush Is The Worst President Of The Modern Era, Bottom Five Of All Time
Source: THINKPROGRESS
URL Source: http://thinkprogress.org/
Published: Jul 1, 2010
Author: Alex Seitz-Wald
Post Date: 2010-07-01 12:49:51 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 145155
Comments: 152

Since 1982, the Siena Research Institute has polled presidential scholars on whom they view to be best and worst presidents in American history, based on a variety of issues from “integrity” to economic stewardship. This year’s poll of 238 scholars found that President Franklin Roosevelt was once again ranked on top, joined by Presidents Lincoln, Jefferson, Washington, and Teddy Roosevelt to complete the top five. However, President George W. Bush did not fare well since the last poll was conducted in 2002. He dropped 16 places to 39th, making him the worst president since Warren Harding died in office in 1923, and one of the bottom five of all time, according to the experts:

Today, just one year after leaving office, the former president has
found himself in the bottom five at 39th rated especially poorly in handling the economy, communication, ability to compromise, foreign policy accomplishments and intelligence. Rounding out the bottom five are four presidents that have held that dubious distinction each time the survey has been conducted: Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin Pierce.

Bush was rated second from the bottom on “intelligence,” “foreign policy
accomplishments,” and “handling of U.S. economy.” This despite promises from Bush supporters that “history will be very kind” to the former president, as his Attorney General John Ashcroft put it. Bush’s father’s legacy “held constant” in this year’s poll, with George H.W. Bush coming in at 22nd. President Reagan “dropped two places from 16th overall in 2002 to 18th today.” President Obama was ranked 15th. (HT: Taegan Goddard)

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Bush was rated second from the bottom on “intelligence,” “foreign policy accomplishments,” and “handling of U.S. economy.”

This alone demonstrates a lack of credibilyt from this organization nobody's heard of before.

Does that guy bitchin about Ann Coulter in the other absurd thread you posted own it?

(laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   13:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

Rounding out the bottom five are four presidents that have held that dubious distinction each time the survey has been conducted: Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin Pierce.

Ok,any bottom five that doesn't have Jim-Mah Cawtur as tied for first place in the worse category with Boy Jorge is pure BullBarrack. They are obviously partisan and biased.

Of course,ANY list that has Lincoln and King Franklin in the top 5 is a fascist list to start with.

Not to mention LBJ. Hell,LBJ should probably hold the top (bottom?) spot with Jim- Mah and Boy Jorge in a dead heat for second place.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-01   14:44:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: sneakypete (#2)

Ok,any bottom five that doesn't have Jim-Mah Cawtur as tied for first place in the worse category with Boy Jorge is pure BullBarrack. They are obviously partisan and biased.

Gee, no bias AND no factual basis here....(chuckle)

You're caught up in the moment, sneaky. Bush is a middling POTUS, no denying that. But five worst?

Thats ridiculous.

100% agreement about Carter, but on that one we actually have measurable facts with which to place him there.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   14:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye (#3)

Bush is a middling POTUS, no denying that. But five worst?

Absolutely. Carter was and is merely incompetent. Boy Jorge is both incompetent AND a traitor.

Thats ridiculous.

What is ridiculous is that you and some of the others are still too blind to see it. You criticize Barry Soetoro,and he is nothing more than Bush 4.0.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-01   18:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete, Badeye (#4)

LOL!

Pointing at you and laughing my a$$ off petey!

"It's ALL de ebil BOOOOOSH'S fault!" (tm. pending)

Eh petey?

EH?

LOL!

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-02   3:46:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Mad Dog (#5)

It's ALL de ebil BOOOOOSH'S fault!" (tm. pending)

Eh petey?

No,he was merely a tool,a fool,and a traitor. He just happened to be the head fool and traitor for 8 years. His whole damn family is treasonous,dating back to his grandfather,and including his treasonous One World Order father and his fascist uncle.

LOL!

Laugh,Nero,laugh!

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-02   8:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#4)

Carter was and is merely incompetent. Boy Jorge is both incompetent AND a traitor.

Yeah right, as if its Bush who is the one not wasting any opportunity to trash America on foreign soil.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-07-02   9:01:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: no gnu taxes (#7)

Carter never bitched about what he was doing was "hard work"...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-07-02   9:05:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: sneakypete (#4)

Boy Jorge is both incompetent AND a traitor.

Oh bullshit. but its not worth arguing about.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-02   9:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: no gnu taxes (#7)

Bush who is the one not wasting any opportunity to trash America on foreign soil.

You never trash what you are selling because it lowers the price.

Even Boy Jorge understood that.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-02   21:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete (#6)

LOL!

I wasn't laughing at the situation that we are ALL now in, I was, and AM, laughing at the legions of little pissy chickenshit gurls such as you who think that pointing fingers at anybody except the current usurper messiah "king" obammy, and this current CONgress, and their true masters, at THIS point means a damned thing re; FIXING it.

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-03   17:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Mad Dog (#11)

Hey dipshit. It was gratifying and hilarious to see leadpenny expose your phony service.

Hurts to have the light shone on your bullshit after all this time eh? lol. Don't worry though, all the guys down at the bar still believe you.

LOL

To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-07-03   18:05:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Mad Dog (#11)

laughing at the legions of little pissy chickenshit gurls such as you

YOU are the one who lives up any warm RINO ass you can find and feel at home there because you lack the courage to think for yourself and break the chains,and *I* am a "chickenshit gurl"?????

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-03   19:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Abu el Banat (#12)

LOL!

Thanks for the giggles yabba dabba do! when did YOU ever serve in the US armed forces in ANY way again?

LOL! A little simpering cunt such as you who has never served anywhere calling the US NAVY a "phony" service is pretty F ing HILARIOUS yabba dabba do.

What "bullshit" would that be yabba dabba do?

Pointing at ALL of you lifelong civilian wannabe lubbers LMAO!!!!!!!!!

FTW

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-05   21:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#13) (Edited)

"LOL!

I understand that you are nowhere near the sharpest knife in the drawer petey, so try reading it again.

"I wasn't laughing at the situation that we are ALL now in, I was, and AM, laughing at the legions of little pissy chickenshit gurls such as you who think that pointing fingers at anybody except the current usurper messiah "king" obammy, and this current CONgress, and their true masters, at THIS point means a damned thing re; FIXING it."

"It's ALL ebil BOOOHS'S fault!" (tm. pending)

THAT'S a real useful and productive tack to take eh petey?

You F ing retard.

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-05   21:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#2)

Of course,ANY list that has Lincoln and King Franklin in the top 5 is a fascist list to start with.

If that were true, then American Fascists never would have plotted a coup to against FDR.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-07-05   21:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Mad Dog (#15)

little pissy chickenshit gurls such as you who think that pointing fingers at anybody except the current usurper messiah "king" obammy, and this current CONgress, and their true masters, at THIS point means a damned thing re; FIXING it."

The good news is that when the fools hold their convention this year,you are sure to be crowned as their King.

Tell me this,Buckwheat. If Barry Soetoro and the Dim congress that weren't even in power when Boy Jorge and his RINO pals were in office were able to create all these problems,why are you even fighting against them? If they can do all that while somebody else is in power,they are too much for YOU and your RINO pals to deal with.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-05   22:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#16)

If that were true, then American Fascists never would have plotted a coup to against FDR.

Get thee into rehab. Nobody plotted or enacted a coup against King Franklin. The SOB had to die in office to get rid of him.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-05   22:12:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#18)

Nobody plotted or enacted a coup against King Franklin.

The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hist...t/document_20070723.shtml

lucysmom  posted on  2010-07-05   22:28:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lucysmom (#19)

The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

Are you freaking kidding me??????

That's what King Franklin did! The SOB was the biggest fascist of all time.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-05   22:30:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#4) (Edited)

Absolutely. Carter was and is merely incompetent.

I used to think cahtah was just a bumbling over his head clown.....watching him these past few years either shows him to have gotten alot more snarling and destructive or perhaps he always was hiding behind his Alfred E Newman guise.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. Below is positively the most hilariously BS overflowing comment from the resident obamunist spent-condom EVER:) "This is WHY I left the GOP in the mid 90's. ." Dwarf

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-07-05   22:34:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#20)

That's what King Franklin did! The SOB was the biggest fascist of all time.

You obviously don't know what a Fascist is.

Despite Butler's open contempt for big business, a group of wealthy industrialists in 1934 actually tried to recruit him to lead an army of 500,000 disgruntled veterans in a bizarre but half-baked coup d'etat plot against newly elected President Franklin Roosevelt, whose New Deal social programs were anathema to many of America's elite. Butler instead exposed the scheme and testified against the plotters during a closed session of the U.S. Senate's Special Committee on Un-American Activities Authorized to Investigate Nazi Propaganda and Certain Other Propaganda Activities—also known as the McCormack-Dickstein Committee. The committee essentially believed Butler's testimony but in the end took no action against the alleged plotters. The affair remains exceptionally controversial.

www.historynet.com/paths-...butler-and-dan-daly.htm/5

lucysmom  posted on  2010-07-05   23:03:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#18)

From midway through his third term, til the end, his illness took a serious toll on his mental capabilities. That last 18 months in particular cost millions of lives, and consigned millions more to enslavement. I'm still not sure which was more disasterous long term, the end results in Europe, or in China.

I don't ever want a President to served more than two terms, under any circumstances.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-05   23:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: e_type_jag (#21)

perhaps he always was hiding behind his Alfred E Newman guise.

That has ALWAYS been my opinion of him.

It seems like it is always the people with the most hatred in them that rant and rave about love so much,just like it is the people who rant and rave about hell fire so much have the most reason to fear it.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-06   7:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#22)

That's what King Franklin did! The SOB was the biggest fascist of all time. You obviously don't know what a Fascist is.

It's obvious one of us doesn't.

You are no doubt one of those airheads who think "fascists are evil and communists are good",and are too blind and stupid to realize they are the same people.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-06   7:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#20)

That's what King Franklin did! The SOB was the biggest fascist of all time.

Uh...no...

FDR was on the wrong side of the political spectrum to be a Fascist and American Fascists considered him an enemy.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-07-06   8:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#25)

You are no doubt one of those airheads who think "fascists are evil and communists are good",and are too blind and stupid to realize they are the same people.

Nope, I'm one of those airheads that thinks it is important to get the meaning of the words we define each other with straight. Its a reality thing with me.

Fascism was supported by Capitalists because it was anti union, did not threaten to nationalize business or property.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-07-06   11:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: war (#26)

FDR was on the wrong side of the political spectrum to be a Fascist

BullBarrack! One of the biggest lies ever told is that fascists are right- wingers. They are lefties to their evil core.

and American Fascists considered him an enemy.

Once again,BullBarrack. American LEFTISTS that supported the Nazi version of fascism (you know,National Socialists) considered communists an enemy because the commies were competing for power with them. It was all about who sits on the throne,not which political system. Both were police states that gave the states all the power and the serfs no freedoms.

BTW,nobody heard a whisper of criticism from the American Nazis about the communists or from the American communists about the Nazi's back when they were allies. The brotherhood mould only broke after the Nazi's invaded Russia.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-06   18:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lucysmom (#27)

Nope, I'm one of those airheads that thinks it is important to get the meaning of the words we define each other with straight. Its a reality thing with me.

You sure had ME fooled!

Fascism was supported by Capitalists because it was anti union, did not threaten to nationalize business or property.

Oh,BullBarrack! The Nazi's had unions,and so did the Soviets. The thing is the unions were controlled by the states.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-06   18:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Brian S (#0)

My modern (post WWII) presidential ranking:

HORRIBLE PRESIDENTS

Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, George W Bush

INCONSEQUENTIAL PRESIDENTS

Gerald Ford, George H W Bush

REASONABLY GOOD PRESIDENTS

Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, Bill Clinton

VERY GOOD PRESIDENTS

Ronald Reagan, Harry Truman

jwpegler  posted on  2010-07-06   20:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#28) (Edited)

One of the biggest lies ever told is that fascists are right- wingers.

You're just plain wrong.

Communism - or most leftist/liberal philosophy - is inherently multi-cultural. The myth that you are promoting gets slayed right there.

war  posted on  2010-07-07   8:03:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: jwpegler (#30)

Gerald Ford

Ford will never be appreciated for what he did which was something Nixon couldn't do...stop a spendthrift Congress dead in its tracks.

He was in office for a little over two years yet had nearly 70 vetoes.

war  posted on  2010-07-07   8:08:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: jwpegler (#30)

HORRIBLE PRESIDENTS

Lyndon Johnson

It is amazing to me that so many people overlook how truly evil LBJ was.The man was totally lacking in any sort of moral character at all.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-07   9:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: war (#31)

You're just plain wrong. It is inherently a police state with a ruling elite and serfs to serve them.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-07   9:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete (#34)

It is inherently a police state with a ruling elite and serfs to serve them.

You've just described functional fascism, sneaky.

war  posted on  2010-07-07   9:36:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: war (#35)

It is inherently a police state with a ruling elite and serfs to serve them.

You've just described functional fascism, sneaky.

Yes,I know. That was my intention.

I also described communism.

A fascist is nothing more than a communist that has evolved.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-07   22:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#36)

I also described communism.

Nothing that Marx ever wrote about regarding functional Marxism.

You have described authoratarianism in broad terms but have failed to distinguish it in any specific sense.

war  posted on  2010-07-08   8:02:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#37)

I also described communism.

Nothing that Marx ever wrote about regarding functional Marxism.

Oh,BullBarrack! You are just defending your leftism. You are smart enough to know that Marx wasn't the only communist. Hell,he didn't even invent any of the concepts. He just formalized them in a book and became a figurehead.

You have described authoratarianism in broad terms but have failed to distinguish it in any specific sense.

In other words,you want to know how many commies can dance on the head of a pin,and then you want their individual names?

Play dodge ball much?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-08   9:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#38) (Edited)

Oh,BullBarrack!

Book and chapter please.

In other words,you want to know how many commies can dance on the head of a pin,and then you want their individual names?

No one is arguing that authoratarianism does not or can not exist on both sides of the political spectrum.

war  posted on  2010-07-08   9:40:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: war (#39)

Book and chapter please.

Why waste my time writing and giving references that you already know and refuse to accept. Communism BY DEFINITION is against human nature,and the only way it can exist as a political and ruling system is by force of the police state.

Pulling the mask off communism is the same to you as stripping away your mother's clothing. It is unacceptable.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-08   9:47:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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