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Title: 48 Hourss,Waco
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Published: Dec 30, 2017
Author: sneakypete
Post Date: 2017-12-30 18:27:37 by sneakypete
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Keywords: BATF, Bill of Rights
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Did anyone else watch this the other night? I had recorded it,and just watched it today,and I am seriously steamed.

Long story short,the whole thing came about because a UPS driver decided "something was wrong because what religion NEEDS ALL THOSE GUNS?" (emphasis mine)? It seems obvious he didn't know they had a FFL and were selling guns and demilled "grenade" joke gifts,or if he did know he didn't care.

He obviously lied and opened up one package to discover it was full of "grenades" "When I pulled it from the top shelf 5 or 6 grenades rolled out of it." Ask ANYBODY that has ever handled a case of grenades if ANYBODY ever puts them on a top shelf anywhere for proof of this. The TRUTH is they were demilled grenades without the blasting cap or striker that they were mounting on plaques with the wording like "complaint center,pull a pin and wait." ANYBODY can buy,own,or sell them,and not even have to have a FFL because they are NO LONGER CONSIDERED TO BE WEAPONS.

Anyhow,this moral goober took it upon himself to notify the Clinton Administration AFT and report the Branch Dividians for "having live grenades and machine guns!".After going home and talking it over with his wife,of course. She was on tv too,and she too was outraged over "a religious cult having weapons".

Which led to Janet Reno sending in the Storm Troopers,which eventually led to them burning the church buildings down when they ran into it repeatedly with armored vehicles to knock holes in it. Which is what caused it all to burn down since the Feebs had already cut off all electricity to their buildings,and they were using kerosene lanterns for light.

Of course the head hack says he's not responsible for fires that killed all those children because "the people inside set the fires." Un,huh. People decide to set themselves and their children of fire all the time,and it's just a coincidence the joint was being rocked by armored vehicles,huh?

At the end they showed a few blurbs about "there is no evidence the Branch Davidians set themselves on fire",but no mention of who else might be responsible for the fire".

There was also no mention of the Janet Reno/Clinton history of pushing for gun confiscations or things like their actions against Randy Weaver.

Questions like"Why didn't they just arrest Koresh when he went to town on Wednesday to get a haircut?" Or why didn't they just have the local sheriff,who had NO trouble with them,knock on the door and ask to see their weapons records ?"

Nope,they went straight to the cattle trucks and the armed assault with machine guns and body armor by BATF agents. They DID mention Weaver was shot twice while standing at the door talking to the BATF before they started jumping out of the cattle cars and shooting at the building windows with automatic weapons,but that was just in passing in another segment.

One thing is abundantly clear,though. That UPS driver and the head BATF punk are the two people primarily responsible for the deaths of all those children. Without the USP driver opening packages and then telling ignorant lies to a federal agency that desperately needed to hear them,and then the political hack planning the surprise armed assault while the door was open and Weaver was talking with the door knockers,none of that would have happened.


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Let's not forget the rabidly anti-gun administration in power at that time,and their push to get all gun owners classified as "Dangerous kooks" in the eyes of the public. People in high positions in government SHOULD have gone to federal prisons or have been executed over what happened at Waco.Subscribe to *Bill of Rights-Constitution*

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#8. To: sneakypete, Stoner, Liberator, Tooconservative, Fred Mertz, buckeroo, rlk (#0) (Edited)

Of course the head hack says he's not responsible for fires that killed all those children because "the people inside set the fires." Un,huh. People decide to set themselves and their children of fire all the time,and it's just a coincidence the joint was being rocked by armored vehicles,huh?

At the end they showed a few blurbs about "there is no evidence the Branch Davidians set themselves on fire",but no mention of who else might be responsible for the fire".

That's interesting since ABC is also running a propaganda series about Waco. I wonder why all of a sudden both Mockingbird networks decided to revisit the massacre, unless it's to brainwash a new generation and put a pro-gooberment spin on the event.

I'm sure that show will cast blame on the Davidians as well without naming the actual murderers.

Deckard  posted on  2017-12-30   22:33:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Deckard, sneakypete, Stoner, Tooconservative, Fred Mertz, buckeroo, rlk, GrandIsland (#8)

At the end they showed a few blurbs about "there is no evidence the Branch Davidians set themselves on fire",but no mention of who else might be responsible for the fire".

That's interesting since ABC is also running a propaganda series about Waco. I wonder why all of a sudden both Mockingbird networks decided to revisit the massacre, unless it's to brainwash a new generation and put a pro-gooberment spin on the event.

I'm sure that show will cast blame on the Davidians as well without naming the actual murderers.

Great observation and questions about why ABC would find it compelling to release a re-hash of the Waco massacre...(And yes, Pete -- why no mention of exactly WHO was responsible FOR the fire to begin with?)

The reason for this "documentary": Perhaps ABC wants/needs to help the Democrats and Clintons re-write "history" for some dark subversive reason. Maybe there's some damaging noise on Hitlery and Bubba etal that's soon to come to light and they want to mitigate that damage as a "Trump CT."

Liberator  posted on  2017-12-31   15:30:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Liberator, Reciprocity fix-NICS, *Bang List*, Deckard, sneakypete (#48)

why ABC would find it compelling to release a re-hash of the Waco massacre...

IMO, it's because there are gun grabbing bills coming up in congress, aka "Concealed Carry Reciprocity" which is essentially a federal database of CCW's plus an expanded NICS black-list of the peons whom the feds claim have no God given RKBA protected by the 2nd amendment.

Thus, the anti-gun propaganda push by the MSM. They're priming the pump for legislative tyranny.

Hondo68  posted on  2017-12-31   16:51:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: hondo68 (#59)

... the anti-gun propaganda push by the MSM. They're priming the pump for legislative tyranny.

But Waco wasn't about any sort of "Militia" or gun-toting 2A "nuts."

Wouldn't surprise me if they do spin the Waco story and invent a fictional account that centers on "guns." As a matter of fact we should expect it to be 98% lies. If so, they'll be shredded at all conservative media sites. LOUDLY.

It is a VERY good thing that the MSM has been shredded and discredited. Again -- THAT is one of the most accomplishments of Donald Trump. If not for Trump exposing them, who knows what fascist BS they'd be getting away with selling in the major media. Ya gotta give him props for that, Hondo.

Liberator  posted on  2017-12-31   17:22:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Liberator (#61)

The incident began when the ATF attempted to raid the ranch. An intense gun battle erupted, resulting in the deaths of four government agents and six Branch Davidians. Upon the ATF's failure to raid the compound, a siege was initiated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the standoff lasting 51 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

It started with an ATF raid. It assuredly WAS about guns.

ATF, Waco

Hondo68  posted on  2017-12-31   17:36:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#65. To: hondo68 (#62)

It started with an ATF raid. It assuredly WAS about guns.

Clinton's ATF made the issue "guns."

The Ferals can invent warrants and charges out of thin air -- I HOPE you realize that.

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