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Title: Conservative Roman Catholic theologians accuse pope of spreading heresy
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Crux Catholic Media
URL Source: https://cruxnow.com/global-church/2 ... -accuse-pope-spreading-heresy/
Published: Sep 24, 2017
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2017-09-24 20:35:02 by Hondo68
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Views: 3995
Comments: 34
VATICAN CITY — Several dozen tradition-minded Roman Catholic theologians, priests and academics have formally accused Pope Francis of spreading heresy with his 2016 opening to divorced and civilly remarried Catholics. In a 25-page letter delivered to Francis last month and provided Saturday to The Associated Press, the 62 signatories issued a “filial correction” to the pope — a measure they said hadn’t been employed since the 14th century. The letter accused Francis of propagating seven heretical positions concerning marriage, moral life and the sacraments with his 2016 document “The Joy of Love” and subsequent “acts, words and omissions.” The initiative follows another formal act by four tradition-minded cardinals who wrote Francis last year asking him to clarify a series of questions, or “dubbia,” they had about his 2016 text. Francis hasn’t responded to either initiative. The Vatican spokesman didn’t immediately respond to an email seeking comment late Saturday. None of the signatories of the new letter is a cardinal, and the highest-ranking churchman listed is actually someone whose organization has no legal standing in the Catholic Church: Bishop Bernard Fellay, superior of the breakaway Society of St. Pius X. Several other signatories are well-known admirers of the old Latin Mass which Fellay’s followers celebrate. Also among the signatories are a handful of well-known Catholic figures from around the world, including Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, a former president of the Institute for the Works of Religion, the so-called “Vatican bank,” and Italian Monsignor Antonio Livi, former dean of the philosophy faculty at Rome’s Pontifical Lateran University. Organizers said the initiative was nevertheless significant and a sign of the concern among a certain contingent of academics and pastors over Francis’s positions, which they said posed a danger to the faithful. “There is a role for theologians and philosophers to explain to people the church’s teaching, to correct misunderstandings,” said Joseph Shaw, a spokesman for the initiative, signatory of the correction and senior research fellow in moral philosophy at Oxford University. When it was released in April 2016, “The Joy of Love” immediately sparked controversy because it opened the door to letting civilly remarried Catholics receive Communion. Church teaching holds that unless these Catholics obtain an annulment — a church decree that their first marriage was invalid — they cannot receive the sacraments, since they are seen as committing adultery. Francis didn’t create a church-wide pass for these Catholics, but suggested — in vague terms and strategically placed footnotes — that bishops and priests could do so on a case-by-case basis after accompanying them on a spiritual journey of discernment. Subsequent comments and writings have made clear he intended such wiggle room, part of his belief that God’s mercy extends in particular to sinners and that the Eucharist isn’t a prize for the perfect but nourishment for the weak. Shaw said none of the four cardinals involved in the initial “dubbia” letter, nor any other cardinal, was involved in the “filial correction.” Organizers said the last time such a correction was issued was to Pope John XXII in 1333 for errors which he later recanted. The letter and accompanying materials may be found here. Crux Staff also contributed to this report. Pope Francis talks to an infant during his visit to the Santa Lucia Foundation in Rome, Friday, Sept. 22, 2017. (Credit: L'Osservatore Romano/Pool Photo via AP.) Poster Comment: Looks like someone at the Vatican doesn't like heretics, and gave Francis a black eye. Maybe Benny 16, the shadow Pope?
Pope Francis waves as he arrives in St. Peter's Square at the Vatican for his weekly general audience on Sept. 20, 2017. A total of 62 clergy, theologians and other academics, though no cardinals and only one bishop from a break-away traditionalist society, have signed a letter accusing Pope Francis of heresy for his document 'Amoris Laetitia' and its cautious opening to Communion for divorced and civilly remarried Catholics, with organizers saying the last time such a "correction" happened was in 1333 under Pope John XXII.
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#3. To: hondo68 (#0)
I almost posted on this story, given how many eyebrows are raised by it within Catholic circles. But the story I was going to post was much much longer and I thought no one here at LF would read it or comment. I did happen to mention/link that story just a bit ago on another unrelated LF thread so I thought I'd post the link here for anyone that really wants all the gritty details. I think we all know that LifeSite will take a very strong pro-life view and it is very traditionally Catholic. Perhaps more Catholic than the pope, or at least more Catholic than Pope Frank is. And that is the gist of this controversy, it seems. LifeSiteNews: 62 scholars correct Pope Francis for ‘propagating heresies’
Ah, they capitalized Pope in their headline! It seemed odd to me that the Knights of Columbus article I posted didn't when referring to Francis. I don't think they like him.
LifeSite emphasized that the letter writers affirmed Pope Frank's infallibility as a pope, even as they complained about his grave and profound errors despite being so infallibly infallible. It was the usual weasel words you recognize when Catholics criticize the pope while affirming his popey superpowers. "Sure the pope is infallible but he's just wrong about ________." "Sure the pope is infallible but he's pandering to the media and entirely misrepresenting the church that he is the head of and whose power he embodies personally." Et cetera.
Seems the Vatican spinmeisters decided to just poo poo this and laugh at 62 insignificant (their determination) signers. Life Site updated their page and states since the letter went public the number of signers doubled. Looks like they may have some more before Reformation Day. :-)
I'm sure they all swore their devotion to the pope despite profoundly disagreeing with what he's doing. They really dig all that groveling. It's a good reminder of what life would have been like living under a monarch. They did submit the letter in August and kept quiet. He had every chance to respond to them and make some change and they would have desisted most likely. Instead, he ignored them entirely and kept on flaunting his loopy ideas and pandering to libmedia at the expense of highly established Catholic dogma. No one can say he wasn't warned and given a chance to alter his conduct to reflect the actual teachings of Rome. It's not as though a pope can claim ignorance of what Rome has adhered to for over 1500 years on some of these issues. No Catholic can possibly be that ignorant. I have an idea. Maybe they could send Pope Frank to catechism class since he's struggling with the elementary concepts of Catholic beliefs.
Perhaps he forgot his infallibility is conditional. :-)
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#5. To: Tooconservative (#3)
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62 scholars correct Pope Francis for ‘propagating heresies’
#7. To: hondo68 (#5)
#20. To: Tooconservative (#7)
#21. To: redleghunter (#20)
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Life Site updated their page and states since the letter went public the number of signers doubled.
#22. To: Tooconservative (#21)
Instead, he ignored them entirely and kept on flaunting his loopy ideas and pandering to libmedia at the expense of highly established Catholic dogma.
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