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Title: Prof Tweets That He’d ‘Be OK if #BetsyDevos Was Sexually Assaulted’
Source: NR
URL Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/artic ... xually-assaulted-would-be-fine
Published: Sep 12, 2017
Author: Katherine Kimpf
Post Date: 2017-09-12 09:47:53 by IbJensen
Keywords: None
Views: 177
Comments: 31

The now-deleted tweet was a response to Devos’s plans to rein in Title IX on college campuses.

A professor at Austin Community College tweeted that he would “be OK if #BetsyDevos was sexually assaulted” because of her intentions to change the guidelines for how colleges handle sexual assault.

Rob Ranco, who is an adjunct professor of paralegal studies, posted the tweet on Friday. It has since been deleted, but not before a screenshot was obtained by Campus Reform. It stated, in full: “I’m not wishing for it… but I’d be ok if #BetsyDevos was sexually assaulted.

Ranco then followed it with what seems to be some attempts at explanation:

“Perhaps Betsy doesn’t understand how horrible rape is. She’s made the world more dangerous for my daughters. I need her to understand.” (“Yes, @twitter. My words were harsh. I don’t wish harm on anyone. I wish there’s some way #BetsyDevos would understand and care about others.”

He also jokingly tweeted that “Twitter trolls are now due process experts! Ranco’s tweets, of course, have faced a lot of criticism. His account (@RancoLaw) is not on Twitter anymore and a spokesperson from the school issued a statement to Campus Reform saying that the school “does not condone these comments and their sentiment.

I’ve got to say, I’m really wondering just what in the hell this guy could have been thinking. Now, I do understand that there are a lot of problems with the way that we treat victims of rape and sexual assault in this culture. It’s disgusting, but it’s true: There are far too many people who would rather just write off all accusers as being opportunistic liars than actually try to understand what it must feel like to be in a rape victim’s position — to understand, for example, how issues like shame and/or power dynamics might prevent a woman from reporting her assault to the police.

It’s very, very important to educate people on this issue. It’s also important, however, to acknowledge the plain and simple fact that current Title IX guidelines have created a few problems of their own. As Reason’s Robby Soave points out, people who are critical of Betsy DeVos for wanting to alter the guidelines should stop and think about the fact “that every crazy Title IX case she referenced actually happened.”

Rape is a serious issue, which is exactly why it should be handled in a serious manner — for the sake of everyone involved. After all, as Soave explains, campus kangaroo courts not only force the accused to act as their own defense attorneys, but they also can force victims to have to act as their own prosecutors.

It allows for situations such as what happened at Stony Brook in New York, where an accuser had to face and question her alleged rapist herself, without the assistance of a lawyer or even her own therapist.

The truth is, acknowledging that there are serious problems with the way that rape victims are being treated, and acknowledging that there are problems with the way that colleges have been using Title IX, are not mutually exclusive. It doesn’t do anyone any good to act as if they are, and it certainly doesn’t do any good to say that you’d be totally fine with someone being raped simply because she recognizes the latter problems.


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This is why this idiot 'teaches' at a community college. He's an 'adjunk' professor of paralegal studies and is outraged by the notion of due process. And he can't even use good grammar. No wonder the kids learn nothing in college.

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#1. To: IbJensen (#0)

The Twitter outrage du jour, I suppose.

I think that when journalists run out of stuff to write, they whip up one of these Twitter fury stories, usually lifted from Twitchy.com that seemingly only exists to whip up Twits and their ilk.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-12   15:10:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: IbJensen (#0)

I just cannot resist the followup story...

Prof Resigns Law Firm Job After Tweeting "I’d Be Ok If #BetsyDeVos Was Sexually Assaulted"

A Texas professor resigned Tuesday from his position at a law firm after tweeting the he would “be ok if” Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos “was sexually assaulted.”

Robert Ranco, who serves as a paralegal studies adjunct professor at Austin Community College, resigned from the Carlson Law Firm after speaking with the firm’s founder, Craig Carlson, reported Fox 7.

“I’m not wishing for it… but I’d be ok if #BetsyDeVos was sexually assaulted,” read Ranco’s Friday tweet, according to Campus Reform.

“I wasn’t going to make a rash decision about a member of this family just to appease people on social media,” said Carlson to Fox 7. “That said, I considered the health of everyone in our organization, promised my partners and my employees that we would act according to the values of our firm, and sat down to speak with Mr. Ranco.”

The two individuals purportedly concluded that “even expressing apathy towards sexual assault is [an] affront to all victims and a line that simply cannot be uncrossed.”

After receiving some backlash, Ranco said his statement was “harsh” and he “doesn’t wish harm on anyone.” The professor’s tweet and Twitter account have since been deleted.

“The recent social media comments made by a part-time employee on his personal page do not represent ACC’s vision, mission, and values,” said an Austin Community College spokesperson to Campus Reform. “The college does not condone these comments and their sentiment.”

DeVos gave a speech Thursday in which she argued that the Obama-era Department of Education had not adequately defended the due process rights of accused students.

Hopefully, the Austin community college will follow suit and fire him from his lecturer gig there.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-13   8:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tooconservative (#2)

Thanks, TC for the additional article. This guy is undoubtedly a dumbass who is far left but doesn't know why.

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2017-09-13   10:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: IbJensen (#3)

I want him to lose both jobs, not just his part-time gig as a paralegal at the law firm.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-13   12:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tooconservative (#4) (Edited)

I want him to lose both jobs, not just his part-time gig as a paralegal at the law firm.

Yes, THAT would be perfect justice, but that was before before this insane world turned into a permanent Onion/MAD Mag parody...

Instead he'll be lionized on campus, be promoted to Dean, invited as a special guest on all the Late Night Liberal Propaganda "Talk" shows...

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-13   21:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Liberator, redleghunter (#5)

I'm not sure. Rape is the obverse of the Left's ritual devotion to abortion. And Austin is a very Left, very woke, bunch.

I'd say 50-50 he loses the lecturer gig as well. The campus Lefties who compete at who can be the most offended on every damned day of the year will find it hard to resist burning this guy at the stake, just for a little sweet self-righteousness.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-13   21:33:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tooconservative, redleghunter (#6)

I'd say 50-50 he loses the lecturer gig as well.

The campus Lefties who compete at who can be the most offended on every damned day of the year will find it hard to resist burning this guy at the stake, just for a little sweet self-righteousness.

I'd actually be shocked the guy takes any flak from his own co-nuts. Remember -- his leftist ilk regard deVos with extreme contempt. How would they be "offended" on any level? Their enemies deserve to die. That's is their one unifying theme.

This tweet IMO makes him "courageous" and "taking one for the team."

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-13   21:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative, redleghunter (#6)

Moreover, you'll note the Left is as a rule conspicuously silent on the subject of Muzzie rape or honor killings.

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-13   21:53:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Liberator (#7)

I'd actually be shocked the guy takes any flak from his own co-nuts. Remember -- his leftist ilk regard deVos with extreme contempt. How would they be "offended" on any level? Their enemies deserve to die. That's is their one unifying theme.

He trivialized rape. He came close to suggesting some women deserve to be raped.

In the hierarchy of Things SJWs Hate, the hate for DeVos is much lower than the white-hot passion they have over rape generally.

Try to keep your priorities straight and check your white rape privilege, you monster.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-13   22:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Liberator (#8)

Moreover, you'll note the Left is as a rule conspicuously silent on the subject of Muzzie rape or honor killings.

Only a racist rapist would say something like that.

Why are you so criminally white?

[See how easy this is? It doesn't require any real intelligence or wit to fling accusations about.]

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-13   22:46:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Liberator (#8)

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-13   23:24:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: IbJensen (#0)

“Perhaps Betsy doesn’t understand how horrible rape is."

I'm going to go out on a limb here and state that I doubt there is a single adult or teen female in this country that doesn't understand how horrible rape is,regardless of if they have been raped or not.

BTW,I wrote "raped or not" because if you take the broadest definition of rape as your minimum definition,which includes getting a date drunk while you are also drunk and then having sex with her without getting a notarized agreement with her agreeing to have drunken sex with drunken you prior to the date,most females have been raped by the time they are 20.

BTW-2,the scenario quoted above should NOT be included as rape in any legal sense. It absolves the female of ANY and ALL responsibility for what two drunken people do,and waters the term "rape" down to the point where it is meaningless and this harms genuine rape victims were were violently violated against their will,and almost always in fear of their lives and physically and emotionally harmed by the act. Comparing actual rape to some drunken female not taking personal responsibility for her own poor judgement is an insult to actual rape victims. BTW,I am NOT including having sex with a female who is so drunk she is passed out as NOT being actual rape. It is.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-14   5:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Tooconservative (#2)

Robert Ranco, who serves as a paralegal studies adjunct professor at Austin Community College, resigned from the Carlson Law Firm after speaking with the firm’s founder, Craig Carlson, reported Fox 7.

Which is a polite way of saying the dummy was fired.

No problem.He is an idiot,which means he is highly qualified for other teaching positions.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-14   6:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Liberator (#8)

Moreover, you'll note the Left is as a rule conspicuously silent on the subject of Muzzie rape or honor killings.

They have no choice but to be mute about the actions of their co-conspirators.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-14   6:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tooconservative (#6)

I'm not sure. Rape is the obverse of the Left's ritual devotion to abortion.

Only when it happens to them.

The left apparently is against violence; but justifies a white person getting beaten to death heading home with groceries. They justify the attack as a valid response to violent white privilege.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-14   14:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Liberator (#7)

Their enemies deserve to die. That's is their one unifying theme.

Yes we saw that vicious attitude with 'climate change' during the Hurricanes.

These Pinkos have no compassion outside their own little minds and those who follow them like sheep. Their judgmental attitude towards others not in their little sewing group think is worse than the Irish Catholic guilt complex I grew up with. :)

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-14   14:49:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Liberator (#8)

Moreover, you'll note the Left is as a rule conspicuously silent on the subject of Muzzie rape or honor killings.

BINGO!

They look the other way because they think Muslims are useful idiots for their COEXIST model. When in fact the Muslims hate them and are using them as useful idiots.

It's quite maddening to watch this unfold.

And the Pinkos won't know or won't take the blinders off until Muslims start tossing them off roof tops.

The Florida gay night club shooting is an example of how Muzzies truly view Pinkos, especially homosexual ones.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-14   14:52:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: redleghunter, Liberator (#15)

The left apparently is against violence; but justifies a white person getting beaten to death heading home with groceries. They justify the attack as a valid response to violent white privilege.

I must need a new box of Cracker Jacks because my decoder ring just doesn't work any more.

IOW, what's the frequency, Kenneth?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-14   17:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: IbJensen, redleghunter, Liberator (#0)

And so we reach the end of our story. For now.

Austin Community College Professor Resigns After Tweeting ‘I’d Be OK If Betsy DeVos Was Sexually Assaulted’

Attorney and professor Robert Ranco has resigned from his teaching post at Austin Community College after tweeting he’d “be OK if” Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos was sexually assaulted.

In a tweet that has since been deleted, Attorney and Austin Community College Professor Robert Ranco wrote that he would “be ok if Betsy DeVos was sexually assaulted.” The tweet has since been archived.

Ranco’s tweet came in response to DeVos’ announcement that she would be implementing changes on how universities handle sexual assault investigations. Specifically, DeVos is implementing changes that will ensure that those accused of sexual misconduct receive the due process rights they deserve.

Earlier this week, Ranco resigned from The Carlson Law Firm. He released an apology statement in which he called the tweet “a mistake.”

My tweet from Friday was a mistake. I take full responsibility from it. It was my mistake and nobody else’s and I apologize. I’ll be working continuously moving forward to make it for my mistake. I hope that Secretary DeVos and anyone else who was offended, impacted, shocked by my actions that they can find it in their hearts to forgive me.

Now, Ranco has resigned from his post as an adjunct professor of paralegal studies at Austin Community College. In a statement, the school wrote that Ranco’s tweet does not represent the college’s values. “The comment he posted on his personal social media page does not represent ACC’s vision, mission, or values,” the school’s statement read. “The college never condones sexual assault under any circumstance.”

Ranco released an apology to DeVos on Twitter. “I made comments directed at you that were absolutely inexcusable, and I am sorry for that,” he wrote. “I may disagree with your policies, but please know that I don’t believe anyone should ever be subjected to a sexual assault.”

My formal apology to @BetsyDeVosED. pic.twitter.com/cgaywfaj8U

— Rob Ranco (@RancoLaw) September 13, 2017

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-16   12:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Tooconservative (#19)

Resigns....INSTEAD of being fired by the cowardly college. OR the cowardly law firm.

Not a detail lost on those who followed this story.

We'll all presume he'll be quickly re-hired by fellow brethren at another Marxist-run propaganda mill and unscrupulous law firm.

NO such thing as "too offensive" to the Left, Anarchists, or those with ZERO principles.

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-16   15:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#20)

Resigns....INSTEAD of being fired by the cowardly college. OR the cowardly law firm.

Everyone is more comfortable with a resignation than a firing. That's just how it is.

Fewer lawsuits, the employee walks away with some dignity, etc.

Among professionals, you'll almost always see resignations instead of a firing.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-16   15:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Tooconservative, redleghunter (#18)

("The left apparently is against violence; but justifies a white person getting beaten to death heading home with groceries. They justify the attack as a valid response to violent white privilege.")

I must need a new box of Cracker Jacks because my decoder ring just doesn't work any more.

Wow. Is it possible that maybe you dropped your Cracker Jack decoder ring and while bending over...and just somehow failed to see the giant flashing, buzzing neon sign behind you?

IOW, what's the frequency, Kenneth?

Dunno. Depends on whether you need a hearing aid to hear a fully revving 747 engine inches away from your ear.

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-16   15:56:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Tooconservative (#21) (Edited)

Everyone is more comfortable with a resignation than a firing. That's just how it is.

Fewer lawsuits, the employee walks away with some dignity, etc.

Yes...but context matters, doesn't it?

There is a double standard in effect once again. When the subject "offender" is a *conservative*, then the firing is LOUD, PROUD and indicting of ALL the subject's ilk. When as in THIS case the subject offender is Leftist, then instead of a LOUD firing, the subject is allowed unmerited dignity to leave on their terms.

Among professionals, you'll almost always see resignations instead of a firing.

Yes, I understand. UNDER NORMAL circumstances. But "professional" in this case is relative. The protocol seems NOT to apply when the offending target of what may be considered a "Hate Speech" and personal expressed and suggested threat is a Trump Cabinet member, associate, or family member.

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-16   16:03:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: sneakypete (#14)

("Moreover, you'll note the Left is as a rule conspicuously silent on the subject of Muzzie rape or honor killings.")

They have no choice but to be mute about the actions of their co-conspirators.

True dat.

I believe one Muzzie recently went on record as saying that were his death cult to start criticizing homosexual behavior, they risked losing them as allies. This is exactly why they remain mute. And why Muzzie Bakers are NEVER asked to bake wedding cakes for Queers.

These cases -- as well as BOTH sides choosing to ignore that Miami Beach gay club slaughter by a Muzzie -- proved the adage, "The Enemy of my Enemy is my friend."

So what we have is an alliance of Death Cult Muzzies, Queer Mafia, BLM, guilty white self-loathing feminist white Marxists (male/female), AND militant atheists acting as armed divisions in a culture war against Heterosexual, White-Christian-male American patriots.

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-16   17:34:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Tooconservative (#9)

He trivialized rape. He came close to suggesting some women deserve to be raped.

In the hierarchy of Things SJWs Hate, the hate for DeVos is much lower than the white-hot passion they have over rape generally.

I disagree with you on the SJW priority. Already proven by the silence of SJWs in this case.

Did you ear a peep from the hypocritical "Nasty Women"? I sure didn't.

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-16   17:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Tooconservative (#10)

Why are you so criminally white?

[See how easy this is? It doesn't require any real intelligence or wit to fling accusations about.]

Yup.

Your line of questioning is related as nauseum on The View, MSNBC, CNN, HuffPo, Salon, and all the usual suspects Fake News outlets.

They are working on their Goebbelian WASH RINSE REPEAT game plan every day several times per day until 2020.

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-16   17:40:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Tooconservative (#11)

Roger that. HA!

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-16   17:41:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#12)

I'm going to go out on a limb here and state that I doubt there is a single adult or teen female in this country that doesn't understand how horrible rape is,regardless of if they have been raped or not.

You did go out on a limb.

SJWs are hardly different than Muzzies or homofascists in degrees of hate and deserved pain/death. Their empathy is directly linked to the ID group of the victim.

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-16   17:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Liberator (#24) (Edited)

And why Muzzie Bakers are NEVER asked to bake wedding cakes for Queers.

Never mind cakes for homos,Christians,Buddists,etc,etc,etc,should all start going to Muslim bakeries and ask for cakes baked with their religious symbols on it,and if they refuse,sue the hell out of them.

BTW,*I* don't think ANYONE should have the right to sue a business for not performing for them. Just like you have the right to go somewhere else,shop owners have a right to do business with people of their choice.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-16   17:48:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Liberator (#25)

I disagree with you on the SJW priority. Already proven by the silence of SJWs in this case.

To be fair, there may have been protest or angry letters and columns in the local media and we wouldn't have heard about it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-16   17:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Liberator (#27)

I just liked her baseball bat with the motto DIE CIS SCUM written on it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-16   17:56:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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