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Title: U.S. judge tells Christian churches they must cover abortion
Source: Life Site News
URL Source: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/u ... -cover-abortion-in-insurance-p
Published: Sep 11, 2017
Author: Mark Hodges
Post Date: 2017-09-11 17:07:39 by redleghunter
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U.S. judge tells Christian churches they must cover abortion in insurance plan Fr. Mark Hodges l Life Site News Monday September 11, 2017

SACRAMENTO, California, September 11, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) -- A federal judge told three Christian congregations in California that they have no case in wanting to opt out of the state’s requirement that they cover abortions through their health insurance plans.

U.S. District Court Judge Kimberly Mueller upheld a 2014 requirement of the California Department of Managed Health Care (DMHC) that all employers throughout the state must pay for abortion insurance for their employees. She told the three churches that they failed to state an adequate claim.

The churches — Foothill Church in Glendora, Calvary Chapel Chino Hills in Chino, and The Shepherd of the Hills Church in Porter Ranch — sued the state in 2014 after being informed that they could not prohibit or restrict coverage for elective abortions.

The churches "believe and teach that abortion destroys an innocent human life" and "participation in, facilitation of, or payment for an elective abortion is a grave sin," according to court documents.

The DMHC reclassified abortion as “a basic health care service” in 2014 under ObamaCare, making abortion insurance a mandatory provision for all business, regardless of the employer’s sincerely held beliefs.

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#4. To: redleghunter (#0)

Normally I would say no judge has a right to tell a church anything,but once you log on as a parasitic organization that doesn't pay taxes,your independence goes out the window.

If you aren't willing to be a whore,you shouldn't ask for and take the money.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-12   1:07:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#4)

If you aren't willing to be a whore,you shouldn't ask for and take the money.

What money are they asking for?

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-12   17:20:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter (#7)

If you aren't willing to be a whore,you shouldn't ask for and take the money.

What money are they asking for?

Tax breaks for being a religion,government contracts to "hep de po",etc,etc,etc.

Maybe 10 years ago when Willie Brown was the Mayor of San Francisco,he and the city council passed an ordinance that any business that had city contracts had to meet the city anti-discrimination regulations by hiring male and female homosexuals,as well as the whatevers that can't figure out what it is they like.

The Catholic Archdiocese there threw a hissy-fit at having to hire outside help that were homosexuals,instead of mostly using the Nuns that are voluntary slaves,and took it to court claiming it faced an unfair burden on them because they would lose 5 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN CITY CONTRACTS unless they violated their religious beliefs.

The court ruled in favor of the city and said there was nothing that required the Catholic Church to bid on city contracts,and that they could continue to help the poor and needy on their own dime.

They caved and started paying same sex and unmarried couples the same benefits they were paying married heterosexuals.

In this case we know their faith was worth at least 5 million dollars a year to them.

And it's not just the Catholic Church. They ALL dip their beaks into the public treasury in order to get paid for doing what they should be doing anyway in order to justify their tax-free status.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-12   19:26:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete (#9) (Edited)

The Catholic Archdiocese there threw a hissy-fit at having to hire outside help that were homosexuals,instead of mostly using the Nuns that are voluntary slaves...

Many, probably most, have taken a vow of holy poverty to serve the Church in its mission. It is quite voluntary and they can leave at any time.

I'd find fault with a lot of other people before I'd bash nuns doing charity work. I was born in a Catholic hospital, the only one around with any quality services. I think it cost my dad less than $100 for me and mom to stay there a few days after delivery. Those "voluntary slave" nuns changed my first diapers so my mom could rest before going home to her other 3 toddlers.

We Prots had no use for the Catholic church but we respected and obeyed those nuns in their hospital. The quality of care in the hospital changed greatly for the worse when the nuns stopped running their hospital and a new one was built, staffed with regular nurses. I'd take those old nuns any day.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-12   22:48:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Tooconservative (#14)

I'd find fault with a lot of other people before I'd bash nuns doing charity work.

I am not bashing nuns for doing charity work. I am bashing their pimps in the church that charge the government/we taxpayers for their work at prevalent wages while paying them poverty wages.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-13   7:36:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#20) (Edited)

I am bashing their pimps in the church that charge the government/we taxpayers for their work at prevalent wages while paying them poverty wages.

It was Jorge Arbusto who got churches into the charity-for-pay business. Back when I was born, no Catholic entities were sucking up government money in the way they started to do over the last decade.

I'm not sure that orders of nuns are involved in compensated "charity" work though. Catholic Charities are but that is not a nun-run enterprise AFAIK.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-13   7:50:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Tooconservative (#22)

It was Jorge Arbusto who got churches into the charity-for-pay business.

BullBush. First of all,pretty much anything beyond dialing a cell phone was too difficult for Boy Jorge,so don't try to convince me he was the mastermind beyond anything more complex than buying luncch.

Secondly,churches have been doing this since they were invented,and it's probably the prime reason churches came into existence.

Prior to the Reformation,the Catholic Church even charged taxes as well as had arrest and prosecution powers. They were a shadow government everywhere they existed,and there was damn little shadow. Even Kings and Queens had to kiss Papal ass to survive.

That's one reason,maybe even the prime reason,so many Protestant Church leaders hate Catholic officials. Professional jealousy.

Not much has changed since then except for they are MUCH more subtle about it today.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-13   8:16:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: sneakypete (#23)

BullBush. First of all,pretty much anything beyond dialing a cell phone was too difficult for Boy Jorge,so don't try to convince me he was the mastermind beyond anything more complex than buying luncch.

No, it really was Bush & Co. who did it. A lot of conservatives opposed it for reasons that shortly became clear. "Charities" supporting and enabling illegal aliens to receive services, gay marriage in the courts, forced abortion coverage in 0bamaCare, etc.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-13 08:36:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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