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Title: Newsletter Distributed on College Campus Calls for Banning Veterans
Source: PJ Media
URL Source: https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/0 ... campus-calls-banning-veterans/
Published: Aug 28, 2017
Author: Tom Knighton
Post Date: 2017-08-28 16:56:44 by IbJensen
Keywords: None
Views: 3074
Comments: 13

A newsletter distributed at the University of Colorado Colorado Springs says veterans shouldn't be in college:

The newsletter reads as follows:

"A four-year, traditional university is supposed to be a place of learning, of understanding, of safety and security. However, there is an element among us who may be frustrating those goals: Veterans.

UCCS is known for its number of veterans who are full and part-time students. But these veterans of much of the school prides themselves on may be hurting the university.

First off, many veterans openly mock the ideas of diversity and safe spaces for vulnerable members of society. This is directly in contradiction to the mission of UCCS. Many veterans utter the mantra that they, "do not see color". But the problem lies in their socialization into the military culture that is that of a white supremacist organization. They have been permanently tainted, and are no long fit for a four-year university.

Second, many students are frightened by the presence of veterans in their classrooms. Veterans usually have an overwhelming presence in the classroom, which can distract other students. This is usually true for vulnerable individual such as LGBTQQI2SAA, who have been known to be the butt of insensitive jokes made by veterans.

Finally, veterans usually are associated with extremists right-wing groups such as the tea party and the NRA. In order to provide a safe place for all students, extremist right-wing groups must be suppressed on campus. This would include their followers: veterans.

That is not to say that veterans should not be allowed an education. Veterans should be allowed to attend trade schools, or maybe even community college. But, in order to protect our academic institutions we must ban veterans from four-year universities."

Oh, there is so much awful here.

Yes, veterans mock safe spaces. Especially the current batch of veterans who spent time being shot at in Iraq and Afghanistan. They're not sympathetic to the idea that people might need a place to hide for fear of being looked at wrong.

Veterans aren't mocking diversity in and of itself: after all, the military integrated prior to the rest of the nation, and it's one of the most diverse bodies in the country. What veterans mock is the idea that diversity matters more than anything else. Something we all learn in the military is that competence matters more than skin color. Everything does. Just treat people as individuals.

I can't help but laugh at the idea that the military is a white supremacist organization. The entity that named Gen. Colin Powell as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

This newsletter was apparently written in defense of people who are afraid of veterans on campus. I hate to break it to them, but there are veterans everywhere. They're in almost every business, often succeeding in key roles because of their leadership and selflessness. If you feel unsafe, that's on you. Because you're safer with veterans than anyone else.

Further, veterans like myself served to protect these snowflakes' right to free speech, and this is protected as that. However, make no mistake, none of us care that you're bothered.


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What a load of horse shit shoveled off Satan's manure wagon!

As a veteran this is too insulting to ex-military who pay the taxes that keep the University of Colorado open to the pot-headed Hillary zombies.

contrary to the egg-headed thought: Diversity is NOT America's greatest strength. Lumping queers and other assorted misfits in with Negroes and other legitimate minorities is utterly incensing to many of us.

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#1. To: IbJensen (#0)

A newsletter distributed at the University of Colorado, Colorado Springs

The newsletter is NOT from the University of Colorado. Rather, it's from an outside source.

The headline is very misleading (my guess intentionally so) in order to stir up anger or as clickbait. pjmedia should be ashamed.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-08-28   17:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: IbJensen (#0)

This is usually true for vulnerable individual such as LGBTQQI2SAA, who have been known to be the butt of insensitive jokes made by veterans.

Heh heh. The butt, of jokes, indeed.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-08-28   17:56:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite (#1)

The newsletter is NOT from the University of Colorado. Rather, it's from an outside source.

you don't, by any chance, have the outside source do you?

I thought not.

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2017-08-28   18:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: IbJensen (#0)

[Newsletter] "A four-year, traditional university is supposed to be a place of learning, of understanding, of safety and security. However, there is an element among us who may be frustrating those goals: Veterans.

UCCS is known for its number of veterans who are full and part-time students. But these veterans of much of the school prides themselves on may be hurting the university.

First off, many veterans openly mock the ideas of diversity and safe spaces for vulnerable members of society. This is directly in contradiction to the mission of UCCS. Many veterans utter the mantra that they, "do not see color". But the problem lies in their socialization into the military culture that is that of a white supremacist organization. They have been permanently tainted, and are no long fit for a four-year university.

First off, veterans deliver a safe space for you bunch of pussies. It is called the United States of America.

Since when is the military a white supremacist organization? When White lives and Black lives depend on each other, they are not fighting a race war in their foxhole, and BLM thugs are not shouting to the enemy, "hands up, don't shoot."

The millenial snowflakes are tainted and unfit to share a space with the veterans.

[Newsletter] Second, many students are frightened by the presence of veterans in their classrooms.

Well, suck it up snowflakes. When you go out in the world, you will encounter veterans there too — and bikers, ganstas, and assorted criminals.

[Newsletter] Veterans usually have an overwhelming presence in the classroom, which can distract other students.

Boo hoo.

[Newsletter] This is usually true for vulnerable individual such as LGBTQQI2SAA, who have been known to be the butt of insensitive jokes made by veterans.

LGBTQQI2SAA is vulnerable to insensitive jokes? Who even knows what that is?

Insensitive jokes made by veterans? Only veterans are insensitive to an "individual such as LGBTQQI2SAA"? Surely an individual such as LGBT1QQI2AAA is not the butt of more jokes than an individual such as Richard Whiskey.

[Newsletter] Finally, veterans usually are associated with extremists right-wing groups such as the tea party and the NRA.

You sure are one ignorant fuck.

[Newsletter] In order to provide a safe place for all students, extremist right-wing groups must be suppressed on campus. This would include their followers: veterans.

And who do you expect to do that for you, sweet thing?

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-28   18:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: IbJensen (#3)

you don't, by any chance, have the outside source do you?

Nope. My only point was that it was NOT a newletter published by the University of Colorado.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-08-28   19:22:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: IbJensen, misterwhite (#3)

you don't, by any chance, have the outside source do you?

The newsletter is issued by someone using the name Terry Steinawitz. The group identifies as the Social Justice Collective. The group is not affiliated with the college. The college claims no student by the name Terry Steinawitz. In email, the group claims to be using fake names to protect themselves.

http://www.kktv.com/content/news/Controversial-newsletter-compares-veterans-to-white-supremacists-441704493.html

Newsletter on UCCS: 'Veterans should be banned from four-year universities'

Posted: Thu 10:45 PM, Aug 24, 2017
Updated: Sat 8:30 AM, Aug 26, 2017

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (KKTV) - A newsletter posted on the University of Colorado Colorado Springs (UCCS) campus started to make the rounds on social media Thursday. It states veterans should be banned from four-year universities. Several viewers asked 11 News to look into the origin of the newsletter.

The letter states military veterans should be banned from classes and compares the military culture to white supremacist groups.

The newsletter is titled "Social Justice Collective Weekly" and says it is the first issue. A spokesperson for UCCS said the newsletter has nothing to do with the school and does not represent the institution's views. However, it was reportedly approved by the university and posted on a bulletin board. The school says anyone is allowed to post items on the board.

On Friday, the chancellor issued a statement.

It reads in part:

"This flyer stands at the intersection of two core values for UCCS and higher education.

On the one hand, we recognize the right of people to express their viewpoints, even when those viewpoints are offensive to many in our community. The University of Colorado system adheres to the freedoms embodied in the United States Constitution, which include the freedom of speech contained in the First Amendment.

In doing so, we draw guidance from the words of the United States Supreme Court, which recently reaffirmed that speech touching on social and political matters is within the bounds of constitutional protection. When speech is a matter of public concern, even though it is racist or sexist, it “cannot be restricted simply because it is upsetting or arouses contempt” and we “must tolerate insulting, and even outrageous, speech in order to provide adequate ‘breathing space’ to the freedoms protected by the First Amendment.” I reject the notion that we should censor those who denigrate others, as censorship would have silenced many voices over the decades who needed to be heard.

On the other hand, respect for the right of someone to speak should never be taken as endorsing the viewpoints that someone has expressed. The viewpoints that the authors express are against the law. UCCS does not discriminate against veterans. But even more fundamentally, UCCS does not discriminate on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, disability, religion, creed, veteran status, gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, political affiliation, or political philosophy. People earn the right to study at UCCS by virtue of hard work and individual effort, and we do not bar the door.

Beyond the fact that the authors’ position is illegal, it is also wrong."

To read the full statement from the chancellor, click here.

The university explained while this group is not affiliated with the college, they say it is free speech and the group can post what they want.

The article says veterans should be banned from UCCS and other four-year colleges. It also generalizes veterans and says they are unsympathetic to the LGBTQ community. The article says all veterans have far right-wing ideologies.

"They [the authors of the letter] try and talk about inclusion as a principle," said UCCS student Joe Hollmann. "Yet, they're excluding one of the most important members of society, those that are guarding our freedom to even talk about this."

"There's a lot of hate in the world," said fellow UCCS student Caleb Hensley. "You can't fight hate with hate."

All of the students 11 News interviewed on campus disagreed with the stance the letter takes. The newsletter was also in the library and other places, but students have been taking them down.

UCCS told 11 News the author is not a current student and couldn't confirm if they were previously enrolled. We emailed the address on the newsletter, but haven't heard back as of Friday morning. The author is listed in the article as Terry Steinawitz. UCCS said there is not a student by that name, and 11 News wasn't able to find any records of anyone who goes by that name in Colorado. According to email responses to 11 News viewers by the editors of the letter, they say they are using fake names to protect themselves.

The newsletter reads as follows:

"A four-year, traditional university is supposed to be a place of learning, of understanding, of safety and security. However, there is an element among us who may be frustrating those goals: Veterans.

UCCS is known for its number of veterans who are full and part-time students. But these veterans of much of the school prides themselves on may be hurting the university.

First off, many veterans openly mock the ideas of diversity and safe spaces for vulnerable members of society. This is directly in contradiction to the mission of UCCS. Many veterans utter the mantra that they, "do not see color". But the problem lies in their socialization into the military culture that is that of a white supremacist organization. They have been permanently tainted, and are no long fit for a four-year university.

Second, many students are frightened by the presence of veterans in their classrooms. Veterans usually have an overwhelming presence in the classroom, which can distract other students. This is usually true for vulnerable individual such as LGBTQQI2SAA, who have been known to be the butt of insensitive jokes made by veterans.

Finally, veterans usually are associated with extremists right-wing groups such as the tea party and the NRA. In order to provide a safe place for all students, extremist right-wing groups must be suppressed on campus. This would include their followers: veterans.

That is not to say that veterans should not be allowed an education. Veterans should be allowed to attend trade schools, or maybe even community college. But, in order to protect our academic institutions we must ban veterans from four-year universities."

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http://pressreleases.uccs.edu/?p=3424

UCCS chancellor issues statement in support of veterans

August 25, 2017 Press Releases Tom Hutton, (719) 255-3439, (719) 351-6519, thutton@uccs.edu

COLORADO SPRINGS — University of Colorado Colorado Springs Chancellor Venkat Reddy today issued a statement in response to the posting of a flyer denigrating student veterans. His statement follows:

Aug. 25, 2017

Dear Campus Community:

I write this morning in response to a flyer posted yesterday on the UCCS campus by a non-UCCS group. The flyer references veterans studying at institutions of higher education. UCCS does not endorse and vigorously rejects the offensive viewpoints expressed in the flyer.

This flyer stands at the intersection of two core values for UCCS and higher education.

On the one hand, we recognize the right of people to express their viewpoints, even when those viewpoints are offensive to many in our community. The University of Colorado system adheres to the freedoms embodied in the United States Constitution, which include the freedom of speech contained in the First Amendment.

In doing so, we draw guidance from the words of the United States Supreme Court, which recently reaffirmed that speech touching on social and political matters is within the bounds of constitutional protection. When speech is a matter of public concern, even though it is racist or sexist, it “cannot be restricted simply because it is upsetting or arouses contempt” and we “must tolerate insulting, and even outrageous, speech in order to provide adequate ‘breathing space’ to the freedoms protected by the First Amendment.” I reject the notion that we should censor those who denigrate others, as censorship would have silenced many voices over the decades who needed to be heard.

On the other hand, respect for the right of someone to speak should never be taken as endorsing the viewpoints that someone has expressed. The viewpoints that the authors express are against the law. UCCS does not discriminate against veterans. But even more fundamentally, UCCS does not discriminate on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, disability, religion, creed, veteran status, gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, political affiliation, or political philosophy. People earn the right to study at UCCS by virtue of hard work and individual effort, and we do not bar the door.

Beyond the fact that the authors’ position is illegal, it is also wrong. We ascribe to The Board of Regents’ Guiding Principle that the University of Colorado shall always strive to “provide an outstanding, respectful, and responsive living, learning, teaching, and working environment.” Veterans are positive and valued members of our academic and campus community. They bring experience and viewpoints that enrich our discussions.

So do many others. We have learned over time that higher education thrives when many voices join in the conversation. Just as I disagree with anyone who says that we should refuse a UCCS education to someone who ascribes to a religious faith, I disagree with anyone who says that we should refuse veterans a UCCS education.

We recognize the pain caused to many in our community. Consequently, I call upon the UCCS community to recognize the value of free and open discourse, while simultaneously standing firm in the inclusive values of our diverse community. If concerns exist about safe expression of ideas, our faculty and staff work diligently and are available to bridge gaps between disparate viewpoints.

We know our student veterans to be high achieving individuals with diverse viewpoints and values, and all of us are enriched by and fortunate to have the military community represented in our classrooms and campus spaces.

Respectfully,

Venkat Reddy, Chancellor

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-29   1:55:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nolu chan (#6)

Terry Steinawitz ... the group claims to be using fake names to protect themselves.

I guess. Then why not Terry Steinawitzberg? Go all the way.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-08-29   10:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: misterwhite (#7)

Then why not Terry Steinawitzberg? Go all the way.

I couldn't rule out this being a right wing effort and their want for the name to be obvious, but not quite that obvious.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-29   20:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: IbJensen (#0)

Well your comments say it all.

If there is any group which would call the snowflake hand it would be Veterans. The newsletter admits such and means we need more Veterans on campus.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-08-29   20:12:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: nolu chan (#4)

LGBTQQI2SAA

Wow that acronym seems to grow every week.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-08-29   20:15:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: IbJensen (#0)

Duly posted at Christian Forums. Check back there in a few hours for the usual suspects.

Christian Forums

redleghunter  posted on  2017-08-29   20:22:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: redleghunter (#10)

Wow that acronym seems to grow every week.

That's how they grow their percentage from 1% to 4% -- add groups of quasi-gays.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-08-29   20:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: redleghunter (#10)

Wow that acronym seems to grow every week.

Yeah, it is one letter longer in the Urban Dictionary.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=LGBTQQIP2SAA

LGBTQQIP2SAA

Shorthand for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, pansexual, 2-spirited, asexual, and allies. This is the proper acronym for the queer community.

Person 1: "I support LGBT rights."

Person 2: "The correct acronym is LGBTQQIP2SAA. Please try to be all-inclusive."

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-29   23:15:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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