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Title: Democrats long for Obama's return
Source: The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaig ... mocrats-long-for-obamas-return
Published: Aug 21, 2017
Author: Amy Parnes
Post Date: 2017-08-21 07:54:30 by IbJensen
Keywords: None
Views: 6082
Comments: 23

He’s been out of office for nearly eight months, but former President Barack Obama remains the Democratic Party’s best weapon for 2018.

Democrats are already nostalgic for Obama as they battle against President Trump’s agenda. When he talks, they listen, as evidenced this week by a tweet from Obama about Charlottesville that became the most popular in the history of the platform.

The tricky question now facing the party is how to use the former president on the campaign trail.

Some Democrats are pushing for Obama to have a more elevated role, but the president has made clear he is wary of sliding back into the role of party leader, which could prevent new leaders from emerging.

Democrats acknowledge that being stuck in the Obama era is a concern, but say the party can’t afford to have him on the sidelines.

“Democrats badly need Barack Obama,” said Brad Bannon, a Democratic strategist. “He offers such a vivid contrast to Trump in behavior and temperament.”

“He always sounded reasonable and acted responsibly even if you disagreed with him,” Bannon continued. “None of the potential Democratic presidential candidates have the visibility or credibility to be effective.”

Others complain Obama has been doing too little to help the party at a time when it is struggling to rebuild.

Brent Budowsky, a former Democratic aide and columnist for The Hill, said Obama “should play a far more aggressive role, starting today, to win back the House and Senate in 2018.”

“America faces an enormous political crisis and it is unconscionable how little Obama and other former top officials have done to help Democrats since Trump began his ugly abuses of power.”

“Under Obama's eight years, Democrats lost power at every level of national and state government, and Obama should feel an urgent sense of duty, especially on fundraising, and act with the fierce urgency of now and not generic promises about the future,” Budowsky added. “Obama should spend less time giving paid speeches and more time raising real money for Democrats.”

Obama is expected to campaign for Democrats beginning this fall, allies close to the president said. But his reemergence will a “delicate dance” as one aide told The Hill last week.

The former president has already been involved in fundraising efforts and has met with party leaders and held private meetings with lawmakers seeking advice.

Obama’s top aides will huddle with him in the next several weeks to plan his fall schedule. And while his allies say he will play an active role in assisting the Democratic Party, much of the work will be out of public view.

One reason for the behind-the-scenes role is to keep the president from becoming a foil to Trump and Republicans, allies say.

“The s--t is hitting the fan on the other side,” one former senior administration official said. “Why play the foil?”

Democratic strategist Christy Setzer agreed, saying while the Democratic nostalgia is “deep and real,” it isn’t wise to have Obama become Trump’s sparring partner.

“For Democrats, never has the contrast been stronger between what we just gave up and what we have now,” Setzer said.

But she added that for potential 2020 candidates like Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) or Cory Booker (D-N.J.) to truly move into the political spotlight, “Obama has to remain in the shadows.”

While Democrats may be in a different place a year from now, she added, “right now, we’re still trying to figure out who the next leaders of the party are. Until that’s more clear, Obama can’t be as prominent.”

But Obama’s Charlottesville tweet this week — which featured a quote from Nelson Mandela’s autobiography “Long Walk to Freedom,” in three separate messages — made clear Democrats long for the leader they already know.

“I think a lot of Democrats are really missing him,” the former senior administration official said. “I think that’s pretty evident.”


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They yearn for the anti-Trump; a poor imitation of a man and of our current AMERICAN president1

They yearn for the days when this phony was making the most progress by completely ruining this nation which was being reduced to pitiful status Just think what these lobotomized Obama crazies miss:

Obama's election was a sad day for Americans when they realized that the first negro president will be judged in history as the most inept, corrupt, wasteful, subversive, destructive and divisive president ever.

Here was a shadow of a human being twice elected because of the color of his skin rather than the content of his character.

This phony mystery figure was a stoner Marxist thug in his youth, but he commanded the U. S. military and sent our young men to the cemetery through his silly-assed insane liberal views of engagement.

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#1. To: IbJensen (#0)

I expect 0bama will still be sniping at Trump from the sidelines.

They'll use him to try to drive up minority voter turnout. But he couldn't do that in either of his midterms as president so why do they think he can do it now?

Their fundraising is really bad, taking in less than half of what the GOP is and the DNC is still in debt. One place they will use him is for fundraisers with the Dem tycoons. They'll have to cough up the big dough in private parties to hobnob with 0bongo.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-21   9:39:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative, IbJensen (#1)

Whats to stop Obummer from running next time? His ego is twice Trumps and thats huge.

You know white guilt is a deadly thing. White guilt has elected Obummer twice. Could there be a third?

Justified  posted on  2017-08-21   9:44:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Justified (#2)

Whats to stop Obummer from running next time?

The law that limits a President to two terms.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-08-21   10:43:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete, Tooconservative, IbJensen, nolu chan (#6)

The law that limits a President to two terms.

I thought it was two consecutive terms but someone could run twice and then skip and then run again? Im no expert. I just remember this from somewhere.

Justified  posted on  2017-08-21   21:49:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Justified, sneakypete, nolu chan (#8) (Edited)

After WW II, Republicans wanted to make sure no one could be elected prez more than twice. FDR broke the tradition of two terms only.

So they passed the 22nd Amendment.

Wiki: Twenty-second Amendment to the United States Constitution

The Twenty-second Amendment (Amendment XXII) of the United States Constitution sets a term limit for election and overall time of service to the office of President of the United States. Congress passed the amendment on March 21, 1947. Ratification by the requisite 36 of the then-48 states was completed on February 27, 1951.



Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.

Nolu could undoubtedly provide much more but this seems to address your question.

As a side note, Truman was VP for only 82 days when FDR died so, had this amendment already been in effect at that time, Truman would have been ineligible to run for a second term of his own. This is why there is a specific exception in the amendment which could only have applied to Truman. And it did. Truman was the last president who was eligible to serve more than 10 years because he was "grandfathered in" as a sitting prez prior to the 22nd being ratified.

In 1951, the U.S. ratified the 22nd Amendment, making a president ineligible for election to a third term or for election to a second full term after serving more than two remaining years of a term of a previously elected president. The latter clause would have applied to Truman's situation in 1952 except that a grandfather clause in the amendment explicitly excluded the amendment from applying to the incumbent president.[218]

At the time of the 1952 New Hampshire primary, no candidate had won Truman's backing. His first choice, Chief Justice Fred M. Vinson, had declined to run; Illinois Governor Adlai Stevenson had also turned Truman down, Vice President Barkley was considered too old,[219][220] and Truman distrusted and disliked Senator Kefauver, who had made a name for himself by his investigations of the Truman administration scandals. Truman had hoped to recruit General Eisenhower as a Democratic candidate, but found him more interested in seeking the Republican nomination. Accordingly, Truman let his name be entered in the New Hampshire primary by supporters. The highly unpopular Truman was handily defeated by Kefauver; 18 days later the president announced he would not seek a second full term. Truman was eventually able to persuade Stevenson to run, and the governor gained the nomination at the 1952 Democratic National Convention.[221]

OTOH, LBJ only served 1 year and 59 days of JFK's term so he was fully eligible to run for two terms of his own, although he declined to run for a second term, fearing Bobby Kennedy would humiliate him.

Probably only nolu and I are boring enough to care about the 22nd and Truman. Sorry if I rambled on too long.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-21   22:14:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#10. To: Tooconservative (#9)

Nolu could undoubtedly provide much more but this seems to address your question.

Actually, I saw your #4 earlier and thought you stated what was in the 22nd Amdt accurately. The only thing to add was the citation to the Constitution. I can add a bit of trivia. FDR was not the first to seek a third term. Grant was elected in 1868 and 1872, left office in 1877, and sought the office again in 1880 but failed to win the nomination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1880_Republican_National_Convention

The 1880 Republican National Convention convened from June 2 to June 8, 1880, at the Interstate Exposition Building in Chicago, Illinois, United States, and nominated Representative James A. Garfield of Ohio and Chester A. Arthur of New York as the official candidates of the Republican Party for President and Vice President, respectively, in the 1880 presidential election.

Of the 14 men in contention for the Republican nomination, the three strongest candidates leading up to the convention were Ulysses S. Grant, James G. Blaine, and John Sherman. Grant had served two terms as President from 1869 to 1877, and was seeking an unprecedented third term in office. He was backed by the Stalwart faction of the Republican Party, which supported political machines and patronage. Blaine was a senator and former representative from Maine who was backed by the Half-Breed faction of the Republican Party. Sherman, the brother of Civil War General William Tecumseh Sherman, was serving as Secretary of the Treasury under President Rutherford B. Hayes. A former senator from Ohio, he was backed by delegates who did not support the Stalwarts or Half-Breeds.

On the first ballot, Sherman received 93 votes, while Grant and Blaine had 304 and 285, respectively. With 379 votes required to win the nomination, none of the candidates was close to victory, and the balloting continued. After the thirty-fifth ballot, Blaine and Sherman switched their support to a new "dark horse" candidate, James Garfield. On the next ballot, Garfield won the nomination by receiving 399 votes, 93 higher than Grant's total.

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